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[prodigyrf]

It's every citizen's fundamental right to put their hand up for every slice of Gummint pork that's going down, but we can still argue the toss the pork shouldn't be there in the first place, all things considered and as the particular policy has evolved. After all where will it all end now we're a society where half of us pay no net tax taking into account all the rebates, subsidies, and handouts and every tier of Gummint is covered in red ink and like Mike Baird telling us, if it's to continue it's Oliver Twist time folks.

[oldmate]

All in all, you gotta thank the various governments for lending a hand 

I got a $1500 subsidy to install solar hot water so I dont have to use all that expensive electricity to have a warm bath, and then they gave me $1400 worth of free insulation for my roof so I use even less electricity to cool the house with the aircon  . I did have to pay out of my own pocket to put in solar panels though , but at least now I'm making a motza by generating 30 odd kilowatts a day at 50cents (44c from the government and an additional 6c from the suplier), so fair's fair I suppose 

With all the money I'm saving on electricity, I've been able to run my aircon non stop for months, and I think we can now afford to put in a pool. It was a borderline decision untill I discovered Energex will pay me $200 to connect it to the cheap tarrif 33 suply. That means I can sell the power to energex at 50c, and then buy it back for 21c 

But there's no point having these luxuries if you cant enjoy them, so I have a cunning plan. The wife is about to be made redundant, so I reacon she should go onto the dole, and I'll cut back to part time hours. That way we can reduce our family income so that we're eligable for free health, child care, and family tax benefits.

  to everyone for working hard and helping me out                  .








Sorry, the above isn't true, but I just couldnt help myself. This thread needs to be lightend up a bit.

Tell them you seperated to, then she can get single parents as well, may as well get the most you can for tryagains tax dollar 

[GBC]

All in all, you gotta thank the various fiscally inept labor governments for lending a hand 

I got a $1500 subsidy to install solar hot water so I dont have to use all that expensive electricity to have a warm bath, and then they gave me $1400 worth of free insulation for my roof so I use even less electricity to cool the house with the aircon  . I did have to pay out of my own pocket to put in solar panels though , but at least now I'm making a motza by generating 30 odd kilowatts a day at 50cents (44c from the government and an additional 6c from the suplier), so fair's fair I suppose 

With all the money I'm saving on electricity, I've been able to run my aircon non stop for months, and I think we can now afford to put in a pool. It was a borderline decision untill I discovered Energex will pay me $200 to connect it to the cheap tarrif 33 suply. That means I can sell the power to energex at 50c, and then buy it back for 21c 

But there's no point having these luxuries if you cant enjoy them, so I have a cunning plan. The wife is about to be made redundant, so I reacon she should go onto the dole, and I'll cut back to part time hours. That way we can reduce our family income so that we're eligable for free health, child care, and family tax benefits.

  to everyone for working hard and helping me out                  .










Sorry, the above isn't true, but I just couldnt help myself. This thread needs to be lightend up a bit.

FIFY

[tryagain]

Tell them you seperated to, then she can get single parents as well, may as well get the most you can for tryagains tax dollar 

haha go for your life, tax dollars are a different kettle of fish.

[gronk]

Tell them you seperated to, then she can get single parents as well, may as well get the most you can for tryagains tax dollar 

That's the latest thing they're going to try and crack down on !!

I go on the dole next week and I can tell you nearly all the benefits you are entitled to...and free health care ??   All australians are already on it..

[rags]

The Bribane Chanel 9 news message across the bottom of the TVs screen tonight when the they ran the story about the Brisbane heatwave  read
 "roof top solar panels saved the power network from failure due to excessive power consumption"

[gronk]

The Bribane Chanel 9 news message across the bottom of the TVs screen tonight when the they ran the story about the Brisbane heatwave  read
 "roof top solar panels saved the power network from failure due to excessive power consumption"

What would have happened if they had a very hot CLOUDY day ??

[muzza01]

What would have happened if they had a very hot CLOUDY day ??

Probably wouldn't have had a heatwave..  Sorry Mate, just saying. 

[gronk]

Probably wouldn't have had a heatwave..  Sorry Mate, just saying. 

I had a what if scenario and you stuffed it right up !!!   

[UIZ733]

If you are remotely interested in the topic of 'Solar' tonight's Catalyst on ABC is essential viewing.
Excellently presented factual outline of the current (pun intended) scenario. It is almost like a replay of dialogue that was being canvassed about 10 years ago, except things have moved on so rapidly.
How many of us will have the balls to jump this time?
South Australia are offering $5000 rebates for battery purchase.
Deja Vu?

[Symon]

If you are remotely interested in the topic of 'Solar' tonight's Catalyst on ABC is essential viewing.
Excellently presented factual outline of the current (pun intended) scenario. It is almost like a replay of dialogue that was being canvassed about 10 years ago, except things have moved on so rapidly.
How many of us will have the balls to jump this time?
South Australia are offering $5000 rebates for battery purchase.
Deja Vu?

That is a good episode.  Quite refreshing to see factual reporting, showing the complexities of the grid, and giving that rubbish Telsa the amount of attention it deserves (about 10 seconds worth).

[KingBilly]

Yeah, that Catalyst episode was excellent.  If anybody missed it, you can see it on iview.  Highly recommended.

KB

[Fizzie]

But there's no point having these luxuries if you cant enjoy them, so I have a cunning plan. The wife is about to be made redundant, so I reacon she should go onto the dole, and I'll cut back to part time hours. That way we can reduce our family income so that we're eligable for free health, child care, and family tax benefits.

But, even more important, you will then be able to spend more time out camping!   

 

[Fizzie]

Curious - does anyone know how many megawatts are coming off roofs in Qld; and how many power stations that represents?     Eg:   0.4  or   1.6 etc  etc

Hey BC

Have a look at http://reneweconomy.com.au/ & keep checking it during the day.

Graph over the right hand side shows where power is coming from Australia-wide, more or less live.

EG as at 8.35 this morning, "APVI Small Solar" in Qld, was generating 385MW. By 8.45, that had increased to 393MW, which, at least to my mind, isn't a bad effort. Don't know how it compares to a proper power station - Symon, Jet?

Edit: answered my own question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Queensland, so just on 400MW (395 at 8.50) is pretty good!

Brilliant sunny morning (at least here on the GC), so I'll keep an eye on it & see what it's doing at 2-3pm.

Graeme

[BaseCamp]

Hey Greame...   thanks very much for the links...   very interesting and informative. ...   it looks pretty good that all that base load is coming from the sun  for "free"....   instead of tax payer funded dirty coal.....

"Free" - that is - after a certain group have picked up the tab....   Yes/no??    Am I understanding the concerns over FITs correctly?

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[Moggy]

Looks like the states power brokers (pun intended)  have been reading this thread...

Heard on ABC radio that Qld Government has been advised and/or are looking into bringing forward the end date of the .44c FIT scheme.

I didnt get all the details but got that much of it

[duggie]

Looks like the states power brokers (pun intended)  have been reading this thread...

Heard on ABC radio that Qld Government has been advised and/or are looking into bringing forward the end date of the .44c FIT scheme.

I didnt get all the details but got that much of it

I don't know how they can/will we all have a signed contract, the courts will be backed for years if this is true.

[plusnq]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-electricity-rebates-should-be-adjusted-inquiry-20160203-gmkb57.html

[Moggy]

I don't know how they can/will we all have a signed contract, the courts will be backed for years if this is true.

Its the government they can do what they like.

Its a bit like the GST, i thought it could only be raised by a referendum but judging by the current talk its purely a political vote,  so as good as a done deal

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[prodigyrf]

"Its a bit like the GST, i thought it could only be raised by a referendum"
In your dreams-
http://archive.treasury.gov.au/documents/1156/HTML/docshell.asp?URL=01_Brief_History.asp

The Howard/Costello Govt went to an election with the proposal for a GST reform of the ubiquitous Wholesale Sales Tax and was elected so claimed a mandate for it and then had to do deals with the Senate for the nuts and bolts of it. Although they wanted universal cover of a GST with no exemptions, in order to tackle other ubiquitous State taxes like stamp duty and payroll tax, they had to water down that universality to satisfy the Australian Democrats at the time. Also to negate the 'Canberra Octopus and !0% today and who knows what tomorrow folks!' critique the GST legislation gave the States the rights to all the GST revenue and only they had the power to request it be raised in future if they were all in agreement. That's why you see strange bedfellows now with Mike Baird and Jay Weatherall wanting more revenue and knowing the GST is the best way for them to get their hands on it while Turnbull and Morrison have to do the hard yards to implement any increase with Shorten and Co playing the 'working families' friend.

Bottom line is we're all living beyond our means publicly and we either cut the suit to the cloth or continue down the Greek path and leave it all in the too hard basket for the kids and grandkids.

[scblack]

Bottom line is we're all living beyond our means publicly and we either cut the suit to the cloth or continue down the Greek path and leave it all in the too hard basket for the kids and grandkids.

Well said.

[Symon]

http://reneweconomy.com.au/

In my experience that site is 90% bullsh1t, and 10% fact which is mostly taken out of context.  The live consumption widget is however credible.

EG as at 8.35 this morning, "APVI Small Solar" in Qld, was generating 385MW. By 8.45, that had increased to 393MW, which, at least to my mind, isn't a bad effort. Don't know how it compares to a proper power station - Symon, Jet?

Barely a blip I'm afraid, a modern coal fired unit can make over 1GW.  Like I said before, the stations we have here are old tech.

[Fizzie]

In my experience that site is 90% bullsh1t, and 10% fact which is mostly taken out of context.  The live consumption widget is however credible.

Barely a blip I'm afraid, a modern coal fired unit can make over 1GW.  Like I said before, the stations we have here are old tech.

Agree with you most of what is written is "somewhat" over-hyped! 

Only look at it to see that graph occasionally.

Incidentally, for today 12.00 509MW, 1.00 604 & by 2.05 production had dropped to 405 as cloud started building. When you have a look at that list of power stations, 600MW isn't too bad though.

[BaseCamp]

From the Productivity Commission report...

re: Axing the 44 cent FIT

"The QPC believes the Solar Bonus Scheme has done its job by stimulating the local solar PV industry and helping to make solar energy more affordable for Queenslanders," the commission found.

"Therefore the QPC has recommended the government consider the merits of an earlier end to the scheme than the planned 2028 closure.

"The QPC estimates that by the middle of 2020, most participants will have recovered the costs of their systems.  The Solar Benefits Scheme has added around $89 to an average household bill and around 9 per cent for an average business customer in 2015-16."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-electricity-rebates-should-be-adjusted-inquiry-20160203-gmkb57.html#ixzz3z5AJ5Va0
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[duggie]

From the Productivity Commission report...

re: Axing the 44 cent FIT

"Therefore the QPC has recommended the government consider the merits of an earlier end to the scheme than the planned 2028 closure.

Tonights News, The Queensland Government stated that the .44c FIT will continue until end of contract , 2028 .