It's for his own good.

[Mik01]

I am a bit confused.  What do you mean by branch? Traffic branch, CIB branch?  131444 is the PoliceLink number and maybe you should ring that number and have your complaint recorded and explain what happened and how bad you were dealt with when you rang the ‘branch’.  Maybe it is not right, but police services have had to prioritise their resources and minor crime, I know it was not minor to you and rightly so, are unable to be investigated on a case by case basis.   You can also go to the Qld Police web site and complete a complaint there about how you were handled. It is your right to complain, so exercise your right.  Kevin

the actual building where people work.
About 14 YEARS ago when this actually happened, I actually rang the building using a number provided, i would assume, prior to the 13 number introduction. No need to flame me. Who really cares who I spoke to? I spoke to the police force, and as they never directed me to call this or that number, I must have found the right 'branch' to speak to.

And I'm not complaining, nor have I felt the need. This is being relayed as general banter in relation to a story about a guy who was fined for not locking up.
The irony is that the cops can fine you for this as a deterrent to attend to more property crimes, but in my story, I did all the right things but couldn't get one to attend. Again, this was years and years ago. Sorry I don't know all the cop lingo about branches - for me, a branch is a building of a large organisation.

[dazzler]

Speaking of ignorance, the road rules are governed by States and Territories. Haven't seen a copy of the 'Australian road rules'.

You try Austlii like I suggested and it would answer your question.

The Australian Road Rules were brought in to ensure uniformity across jurisdictions.  For example, if you go to NSW you will see they have the road rules 2008 (NSW) and if you click on Reg 3 you will see that the objects of the rules are;
"To consolidate in a single instrument the road rules that are applicable in NSW and to provide for road rules that are based on the ARR" etc.

Austlii search Road Rules 2008 (NSW) and click on 165 and bingo, there is stopping in an emergency.

You can do the same with Tasmania at tranpsort.tas.gov.au/licenceinformation and you will see the same.

You may get booked under section X of the Motor Traffic Act 19XX but in that Act will be a reference to the ARR's.  Most states have adopted the RR's.

All states and territories agreed to incorporate the RR into their legislation but maintained the ability to add laws relevant to their jurisdiction.  IE Hook turns in Victoria. 

Its sunny in queensland this time of year so lets go for a little trip up there and see what they have.  Ooh look Marge, Transport Operations (Road Use Management - Road Rule) Regulation and guess what - Royal Ascent in 2009.   

With legislation you go to the object of the act normally at '3' in the title page.  Lets see what queensland says;

"The object of this regulation is to provide road rules in Queensland that are substantially uniform with road rules elsewhere in Australia". 

Lets go to section 165 - Wow - "Stopping in an emergency etc to comply with another provision of this part if;"

And amazingly at 165 'c' it mentions "to deal with a medical or OTHER emergency".

We were talking about Queensland here weren't we?

Shall we keep playing the ignorance game? 


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[evans52]

You try Austlii like I suggested and it would answer your question.

The Australian Road Rules were brought in to ensure uniformity across jurisdictions.  For example, if you go to NSW you will see they have the road rules 2008 (NSW) and if you click on Reg 3 you will see that the objects of the rules are;
"To consolidate in a single instrument the road rules that are applicable in NSW and to provide for road rules that are based on the ARR" etc.

Austlii search Road Rules 2008 (NSW) and click on 165 and bingo, there is stopping in an emergency.

You can do the same with Tasmania at tranpsort.tas.gov.au/licenceinformation and you will see the same.

You may get booked under section X of the Motor Traffic Act 19XX but in that Act will be a reference to the ARR's.  Most states have adopted the RR's.

All states and territories agreed to incorporate the RR into their legislation but maintained the ability to add laws relevant to their jurisdiction.  IE Hook turns in Victoria. 

Its sunny in queensland this time of year so lets go for a little trip up there and see what they have.  Ooh look Marge, Transport Operations (Road Use Management - Road Rule) Regulation and guess what - Royal Ascent in 2009.   

With legislation you go to the object of the act normally at '3' in the title page.  Lets see what queensland says;

"The object of this regulation is to provide road rules in Queensland that are substantially uniform with road rules elsewhere in Australia". 

Lets go to section 165 - Wow - "Stopping in an emergency etc to comply with another provision of this part if;"

And amazingly at 165 'c' it mentions "to deal with a medical or OTHER emergency".

We were talking about Queensland here weren't we?

Shall we keep playing the ignorance game? 


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And That's The End Of That Chapter

[Mace]

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[discoteddy]

Speaking of ignorance, the road rules are governed by States and Territories. Haven't seen a copy of the 'Australian road rules'.

Sorry Mik01 Dazzler beat me too it, no ignorance on his behalf the AUstralian Road Rules have been around for some time, me thinks you need to research your topic

Cheers,

Disco teddy

[discoteddy]

Dazz and Disco;
you both are correctly quoting the law, and I suspect most people here are familiar with the laws generally.   What I think that most here are upset about (my opinion only I guess) is how the police seem to either selectively or incorrectly apply the law to the public (eg booking you on a servo forecourt: and yes maybe you should just leave your belt on until at the pump: but that's not the LAW; so are our police ignorant of it or unlawfully applying it?)  or bend it to their own advantage.  I have lost count of the times I have slowed for an amber light only to have a police vehicle suddenly turn on the xmas tree, blast through the red, then immediately turn the lights off again;  is there an emergency or not?  If any of them ever clean up another vehicle I will be star witness for the victim.  Just last week I was being tailgated by a paddy wagon only about 2kms from the police HQ.  Suddenly the lights and siren come on, I pull over, they roar past and less than 1km down the road the lights etc are turned off as the vehicle cruises into the police carpark.  WTF?  Yes they have a crappy job and cop flack (much of it undeserved, some richly deserved), but if you want respect ya gotta earn it by being clean and consistent  (and applying a little CDF).




Cheers t303,

Mate we'll have to disagree, I don't think it's a fair call say that most here are upset with police, certainly not pertaining to the issued TIN this post relates too.

Mate the use of police lights and sirens (warning devices) are governed by internal driving policy which differs state by state, it also exempts police from the Australian Road Rules when required, gotta love Regina!  Whilst it appears on the surface that police may use theses devices unjustly, and a small element  may, motorists need to understand that police are often reacting to matters broadcast over digital means. Depending on the type of incident it may not require a full "urgent duty" response under constant warning devices, which are often used at points of traffic congestion to aid in expediting a response. I would imagine most here are grateful if any emergency services vehicle can use these devices to achieve a quicker attendance time when a victim requires it. I thinks it's unfair to judge anyone driving one of these vehicles when you are unaware of what they are responding to.


 


Disco teddy

[krisandkev]

Again, this was years and years ago.

I was only trying to help, I did not realise this happened a long time ago.   I think we all have stories about something happening at one time in our life that did not seem right.  Just don't judge all because of this, there are a lot of good hard working police out there, even if they are limited by higher authorities.   Hope you do not become a victim again, I know what it is like and it stinks, car broken into, then my house even my wife’s car stolen from outside a hospital where she was working trying to help people.   Kevin

[speewa158]

Here ya go!





Don't kick poor Old BHG 

[briann532]

so you deliberately broke the law, placed yourself in danger, and that of other road users.  there are no excuses for breaking a law, according to our friendly police force. 
if the copper had given you a ticket, which he probably should have, you would be the first one whinging all over town.  but you got let off, as he used his discretion.

you got lucky. had someone hit your vehicle, you would have been charged, and sued no doubt, and/or injured to boot. you say not to break the rules, yet you just admit to breaking the rules in the same comment!

Yes.....but I would still be alive.
My choice. Perhaps you would park properly and risk being hit. Your choice.
Whole point of my comment was situation and discretion.

[D4D]

There are some rippers here

The ten road rules you never knew you were breaking
http://www.news.com.au/technology/design/the-ten-road-rules-you-never-knew-you-were-breaking/story-fnjwucvh-1226796995159

[Bird]

... its for his own good.. must be awesome to be a Qld cop, easy as piss to get ya quota!!!!

A Queensland motorcyclist has been fined for stretching while riding on the Logan Motorway on Monday.

Jake Sloman was pulled over by police after stretching his leg and issued with a $146 infringement notice for failing to keep both feet on the footrest.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/20650197/motorcyclist-fined-for-stretching/

[time]

Speaking of ignorance, the road rules are governed by States and Territories. Haven't seen a copy of the 'Australian road rules'.

Check this link http://www.ntc.gov.au/viewpage.aspx?documentid=00794

Download 2012 document here http://www.ntc.gov.au/filemedia/Reports/ARRFeb12.pdf

[Bird]

7 cops for 1 motorcyclist... LMAO!

Queensland Police Harrassment	Small | Large

[prodigyrf]

Notice this from NT website and typical for all States-

Process for amending the Australian Road Rules
Step 1
•A change to the Rules is proposed
Step 2
•The NTC seeks advice from the Maintenance Group about the proposal
Step 3
•If there appears to be enough support for the proposal, it is drafted as a proposed amendment to the Rules.
•A draft Regulatory Impact Statement is usually prepared to examine the pros and cons of the proposed amendment
Step 4
•The draft amendment, together with the Regulatory Impact Statement (if any), is put out for public comment
Step 5
•Comments on the draft amendment are considered
Step 6
•If there is sufficient support for the amendment, it is put to the Standing Council of Transport and Infrastructure (SCOTI) for final approval.
Step 7
•Once an amendment is approved, all states and territories should amend their road rules to bring them into line with the amendment.

And that's the rub with these nanny-staters and so many of our laws nowadays. There's an original, overarching Act of Parliament which defines the guts of the Law and its purpose and then it refers to associated 'Regulations' and the Minister's right to amend the Regs from time to time (often with a bunch of political hacks with an axe to grind on an 'Advisory Board' previously mentioned in the Act) in order to further the Law's 'lofty' purpose. That's how all the fines and penalties are ramped up each year, as well as the Regs being added to on the whim of political flunkies and public servants, with nothing better to do than justify their taxeating existence. What you end up with is law that  rarely passes open public scrutiny and leaves joe public with a legal quagmire should they inadvertentedly run across some of these misdemeanours and their manifestly excessive penalties at times.

That's what happened to this bloke (wife taught his youngest in Reception)-
http://www.victorharbortimes.com.au/story/264100/whale-of-a-fine/
Copped around $20k in fines and costs and the bloke had a wife and 2 young kiddies, was a firey with a clean sheet and pillar of his church. Apparently he should have been thankful dear Koula knocked off $5k for pleading guilty and gave him 6 years to pay. Don't even touch any marine mammal remains on the beach either, if you don't want to join Josh. My take is he should have pleaded some Koori in the genes or a bad home life

[Pog]

7 cops for 1 motorcyclist... LMAO!
Queensland Police Harrassment

Seems a bit over the top, but, there are always 2 x sides to the story, and this clown is showing his... Why didn't he just co-operate to begin with and show his ID when asked?

I have only been pulled over 3 x times in 17 years of driving, and each time I was allegedly doing something wrong (speeding).

I would think that being a smart ar$e to police officers wouldn't help any situation..

[BBwilly]

Seems a bit over the top, but, there are always 2 x sides to the story, and this clown is showing his... Why didn't he just co-operate to begin with and show his ID when asked?

I have only been pulled over 3 x times in 17 years of driving, and each time I was allegedly doing something wrong (speeding).

I would think that being a smart ar$e to police officers wouldn't help any situation..

Its getting quite stupid actually for all motor cyclist in QLD atm I thought it was only supposed to be 3 or more would be pulled over now you only have to be wearing a vest?

Loved how the Sargent turned up and took control he new where this was going and going fast and that was straight to youtube they have enough problems in that area with drugs abuse etc but yet all those officers for one guy on a bike sorry that is a huge waste of resources and my tax $$.

Yep this has gone viral already I think you will see many more from this point on.



 

[muzza01]

7 cops for 1 motorcyclist... LMAO!
Queensland Police Harrassment

 
Maybe he is getting the message that we have had enough of OMGs up here.

[deepop]

Great interaction here kids - let everyone have their opinion!

Back to the original post - he gets the smallest fine out of three he could have gotten - not bad I would've thought!   But he had to sook about it anyway.   This copper's not going to bother next time - he'll give the next person the biggest fine or maybe all three - how's that for fixing this issue!   

As Dazzler said, one sooked about the game they played and from then on these kids in their cars just got the lot.   Good job sook - feel better?

No one seems to be thinking about the other thoughtless things the original driver did - drove on the wrong side of the road to park in the oncoming lanes on or partly on the footpath - nothing wrong with that?

[KingBilly]

7 cops for 1 motorcyclist... LMAO!

Yaaawn, getting a bit tired of the cop sledging on this forum.

The dick on the bike is probably flagged on the cop's system so they were taking no chances when they pulled him over, we can't see his physical size on the video and he had an attitude.  I could see nothing that the cops did wrong.

The biggest laugh is that the dick gave out his full name, DOB and address on social media.  Gee, I would piss myself if his bike got stolen or his roof got rocked.  What a dick.

KB

[Teabag]

Yaaawn, getting a bit tired of the cop sledging on this forum.

The dick on the bike is probably flagged on the cop's system so they were taking no chances when they pulled him over, we can't see his physical size on the video and he had an attitude.  I could see nothing that the cops did wrong.

The biggest laugh is that the dick gave out his full name, DOB and address on social media.  Gee, I would piss myself if his bike got stolen or his roof got rocked.  What a dick.

KB

Could not agree more. Police where polite and respectful, he was a so and so. No sympathy.....

[JCAT]

Obvious by there questioning that he had links to OMCG's.

They should have sat on his bike, bet he wouldn't have posted it on YouTube then.

Coppers were polite, he was a smart a..e.

Lucky he didn't have the recording device snatched off him in my opinion.

[BBwilly]

Obvious by there questioning that he had links to OMCG's.

lol just watched it for a second time and cant work out where you get that from all he said was SMC, one of our fitter and turners at work is a part of a SMC club quite a decent and likeable guy there are apparently quite a few of these social clubs around Australia they aren't Hells OMG's etc but hey lets lump them all together they all have bikes so they must be all bad apples.

Maybe that guy was just pissed off because he had been pulled over a number of times actually, when you think about it he probably wouldn't have had the camera ready and known his rights otherwise.....

[KingBilly]

lol just watched it for a second time and cant work out where you get that from all he said was SMC

Not hard to work out.  He was wearing the Misfits colours.  From their website http://www.misfitssmc.com.au/index.html it clearly states that:

All Members MUST own a Motorcycle and it must be registered and in roadworthy condition.
All Members MUST be 100% Committed to the Misfits Social Motorcycle Club ONLY.
All Members are required to join the U.M.C.Q (United Motorcycle Council Queensland).

List of member clubs of the United Motorcycle Council Queensland http://www.umcinc.com.au/index.php?page=about-the-umcq are:

Member Clubs of the UMCQ:
    Bandidos
    Black Uhlans
    Finks
    Gods Squad
    Gypsy Jokers
    Hells Angels
    Highway 61
    Iron Horsemen
    Life and Death
    Lone Wolf
    Nomads
    Odins Warriors
    Rebels
    Tribe of Judah
    Vietnam Veterans

But yeah, you may right, he just likes a beer and rides his bike with his mates.  No harm there.

KB

[D4D]

Yaaawn, getting a bit tired of the cop sledging on this forum.

Have to agree with you there KB

[Moggy]

Personally I'd have busted Mr Harris for the parking infringements.
It's the height of ignorance and laziness to think that it's OK to park a car pointing the wrong way on any street.

what a dickhead.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Its purely a numbers game, well documented we're broke in Qld

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