OK, Now We Rock at cricket- What was I thinking :-)

[Moggy]

hartley, hopes, burns, feldman, doolan, khawaja, bird, faulkner, klinger, o'keefe ... plenty to like in the shield...

Liking them doesnt mean their up to test standard, as some of them have already shown. Test cricket is a huge leap from shield.
Sure there are guys that may be test standard, I just get a little sick of all the critics, a lot of people wanted Clarke, Watson & others gone but hey we won the ashes 5-0 last summer so they cant be all bad.

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[dales133]

I dont think anyone gets paid to be maimed or possibly lose their life also dont think Phils family or friends would like to be reading this at the moment

I realy think you missed my point dude.
They are paid to do what they love and paid extremely well for it and that is because it's a short career that carries some risk.
You can't tell me that facing the world's best bowlers dosn't come with a risk of serious injury or death if you coped a freak impact.
Lighten up a bit dude, I wasn't enjoying his demise

[paceman]

Liking them doesnt mean their up to test standard, as some of them have already shown. Test cricket is a huge leap from shield.
Sure there are guys that may be test standard, I just get a little sick of all the critics, a lot of people wanted Clarke, Watson & others gone but hey we won the ashes 5-0 last summer so they cant be all bad.

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agreed, but you can only get to test standard by actually being given a fair dinkum chance.  a lot of these blokes get one shot and that's it or in hartley's case, none at all.  someone like watson seems to have as long as he likes to make runs, then he gets one score and is set for the next two years.

stats don't lie.

[paceman]

Starc, Johnson, Harris, heaps of WA quicks, Cam White, the leggy from QLD staring in the t20s. Of the preferred IX there is probably only a couple I'd drop. Watson for Falkner. Haddin for anyone, though Luderman looks a likely type. Then there is Jimmy Pattinson, Pat Cummins, Siddle, Stoinis. Heaps to choose from.

agreed.  more emphasis on performing in the shield for getting your spot in the test team is needed, not ODI's or T20's...

[Nay-DMAX]

I dont think anyone gets paid to be maimed or possibly lose their life also dont think Phils family or friends would like to be reading this at the moment

Agree Macca they are played to play sport. All thoughts with Phil and his family.

[Bird]

Agree Macca they are played to play sport. All thoughts with Phil and his family.

nothing against Phil, but it hasn't been a sport in 20 years with the 100k's they are paid.. its purely a business - the players are the workers.

[D4D]

but it hasn't been a sport in 20 years with the 100k's they are paid.. its purely a business - the players are the workers.

That's a pretty uninformed comment

[Bird]

That's a pretty uninformed comment

how do you work that out?
same as NRL, AFL, NRU, Nearly any full time sport. etc...
There is very little "sport" involved in being full time sports people/cricketers. that's professional.

Back in the day when they played games practiced twice a week, beers after game had to have a job to support their families - it was a sport

[D4D]

Right so being a professional sportsman means they don't need any sporting ability 

[Bird]

Right so being a professional sportsman means they don't need any sporting ability 

Yes!!! that's exactly what I said

[paceman]

how do you work that out?
same as NRL, AFL, NRU, Nearly any full time sport. etc...
There is very little "sport" involved in being full time sports people/cricketers. that's professional.

Back in the day when they played games practiced twice a week, beers after game had to have a job to support their families - it was a sport

what??

it's still a sport.  they are professional sportsmen.  this type of accident could have happened in grade cricket in your local competition.

whether they get paid or not is completely irrelevant to the topic of this man getting gravely injured.

if you disagree with the amount of money that these professional sportsmen are getting paid, then don't watch the games, and don't buy products advertised during the television coverage and don't buy the supporters gear and don't buy any gear advertised by a sportsman.

then you will not be adding to the problems you perceive about sportsmen getting paid.

[alnjan]

Just because they get paid to play does not make them 'professional' 

As soon as $$$$ are involved it stops being a sport and being played as a sport and becomes a business and like any business, they want a return for the $$$$ paid.  Occasionally an act of sportsmanship is displayed by some of the paid sports people but most are a low way from being professional

[paceman]

Just because they get paid to play does not make them 'professional' 

As soon as $$$$ are involved it stops being a sport and being played as a sport and becomes a business and like any business, they want a return for the $$$$ paid.  Occasionally an act of sportsmanship is displayed by some of the paid sports people but most are a low way from being professional

according to the accepted definition linked below, these players are professionals.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/professional


the payment alone does not define them as professionals, as the definition describes.  it can define them, but does not necessarily have to.

if people deem your skills worthy enough to pay you to perform them, then why is that not deemed 'professional'?

you can be a 'professional' in whatever you do and still act like a knob.  that applies to everything, not just sport.

if they are not playing sport, then what are they doing?  cricket, by definition, is a sport. 

[alnjan]

You pay a plumber to do his job as you do an electrician, don't hear of too many Professional Plumbers or Electricians do you? 

Further if you applied the basic definition of Professional than their source of income becomes a 'Profession' not a sport. 

Think back to the old Olympic Games where the competitors had to be amateurs, no 'professionals' allowed. 

[paceman]

You pay a plumber to do his job as you do an electrician, don't hear of too many Professional Plumbers or Electricians do you?

like i said earlier, it's all about how you use the definition of professional.

each to their own.  i mainly define them as professionals for the application of specific skill sets, not necessarily on the fact that they get paid.

[alnjan]

Each to their but I do not see a specific skill set that would come close to justify the amount they are paid and there is a lot more to being considered a Professional then just the time spent performing your 'Profession' (rather than playing sport).  Being professional also continuous off the field, not just the pay packet. 

[alnjan]

The cricket world has been left shattered by the death of Australian batsman, Phillip Hughes.

The 25-year-old suffered devastating head injuries when he was struck while batting at the Sydney Cricket Ground yesterday.

His family has made the heart breaking decision to switch off his life support.

Hughes had been in a critical condition in an induced coma after being struck by a ball during South Australia's Sheffield Shield match with NSW at the SCG on Tuesday.

The 25-year-old on Tuesday underwent surgery to relieve pressure on his brain, and doctors said they expected to know the outcome of the procedure by Thursday.

Hughes' life-threatening injuries sent shock waves through the cricketing world, with messages of support pouring in from current and former Australian cricketers as well as players from around the world.


http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/11/27/cricketer-phillip-hughes-has-died.html?cid=BP_RSS_sn-topstories_1_cricketer-phillip-hughes-has-died_271114

[macca]

RIP Phil, too young but doing what you loved

[lino6]

Sad news about Phil Hughes. Thinking of his family and friends. Hope Abbott can get any help he will need too.

[wilson79]

Tragic news...

[Nay-DMAX]

RIP Phil thoughts with your family and loved ones.

[D4D]

Cricket Australia confirm the first Test will be delayed for Phillip Hughes’s funeral 
http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/cricket-australia-confirm-the-first-test-will-be-delayed-for-phillip-hughess-funeral/story-fndpt0dy-1227139401684

[Bird]

watching this last night for a while, what a game, 200, 192, 3x50's.. new record amount of 6s in an innings..

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/recordbreaking-brendon-mccullum-heartbroken-for-phillip-hughes-20141129-11wyvz.html

[Nay-DMAX]

A good innings from Warner well done.

[paceman]

and what a total shock, clarke has retired hurt.

can someone explain to me why alex kountouris still has a job?  and what kind of 'fitness' test did clarke 'pass' to make it into the team?

he was out there for less than two hours.  what a joke.