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Title: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 20, 2015, 04:50:14 PM
Hi
Finally got my new Evakool 75l Glacier fridge. I have set the Freezer to -17 and the Fridge to 4c. It has been plug into 240 volt for about 1.5 hours and the internal temp is only down to 23c (from 29C on arrival).

Is it normal for it to take do long to get down to temp?

thanks
Jason
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: muzza01 on January 20, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
Helps if you put a couple of empty milk cartons full of water. 75 lt is a lot to cool down all at once. I set up a fridge last Friday. It is a 610 lt (obviously 240v) I didn't have anything in the fridge or freezer. It has temp readout on the door, it was also taking a fair while to cool down.  Be patient.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 20, 2015, 05:25:49 PM
Thanks muzza. I wait a bit longer...
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: BBwilly on January 20, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
That doesn't sound right, mine dropped a lot quicker then that 15 mins to get down to zero empty.

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Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 20, 2015, 10:35:41 PM
Crap! Still sitting on 16c & 20c. it's been hours. I can't take a break with these bloody fridges!
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: fishfinder on January 21, 2015, 09:40:36 AM
have you thrown some water or a wet towel in the fridge and have you tried placing a thermometer in there as well as  your reading may be wrong
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 21, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
Yeah,  put water in it call evakool and they are taking it back.  #passionfingers
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: cheif carlos on January 21, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
It should cool very quickly but should also cycle regularly as it would struggle to hold temp with nothing to maintain temp.
haven't missed a setting?

Cheers
Jason
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on January 21, 2015, 11:51:37 AM
Kiwi, you haven't thought of an old fashioned ice box   >:D no electrics there ;D ;D
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: tracker on January 21, 2015, 03:43:22 PM
G'Day,
         May be a chilly bin......... ;D ;D ;D
                                                          Had to throw that in along with the fush and chups   
           Cheers Tracker. 

Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 21, 2015, 04:08:16 PM
G'Day,
         May be a chilly bin......... ;D ;D ;D
                                                          Had to throw that in along with the fush and chups   
           Cheers Tracker.
Cheers bro.....
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: bentnose on January 21, 2015, 04:25:36 PM
hi kiwi
let us know how promptly and efficiently they handle the warranty.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 21, 2015, 05:13:09 PM
Will do. As no one will be home I need to do it into Toll at Burleigh. I hope they send me a new one not just repair the old.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Moggy on January 21, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Just curious, why wouldnt you take it back where you bought it & demand a replacement. ???

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Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Kangaron on January 21, 2015, 06:45:09 PM
Just curious, why wouldnt you take it back where you bought it & demand a replacement. ???

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Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on January 21, 2015, 07:03:12 PM
Just curious, why wouldnt you take it back where you bought it & demand a replacement. ???

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Coz you can't do that, :'(
 If the item is totally dead, you  have grounds to do that, but the retailer would probably still have to get the ok from Evakool, and if it's an intermittent fault the retailer will probably have to send it to Evakool for testing anyway.
Most warranties are worded in a way that the goods can be either replaced, ( does not have to be new) repaired or the purchase price refunded at the dealer/manufacture discretion.

 
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 21, 2015, 07:10:41 PM
I purchased it direct from Evakool. They posted it to me. They want to repair it.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on January 21, 2015, 07:27:00 PM
I purchased it direct from Evakool. They posted it to me. They want to repair it.
Can't ask much more than that
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Moggy on January 21, 2015, 07:42:34 PM
I purchased it direct from Evakool. They posted it to me. They want to repair it.
Well that explains it.  Easy

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Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: cheif carlos on January 22, 2015, 06:49:04 PM
Given how good the evakool products are i would not have thought you would have to demand a replacement as they would just replace it then list the repaired model on their "seconds for sale" web site. Not saying I have dealt with them but got to give them a chance. If it is the supplier who is an a hole then that is who you inform people to think about when they buy from them

Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: gronk on January 22, 2015, 07:45:53 PM
I purchased it direct from Evakool. They posted it to me. They want to repair it.

If it was me, I'd want a new replacement....only because a repair may take a while and at the end of the day, you bought a faulty new fridge...not a new fridge that broke down at a later date..
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 22, 2015, 09:49:29 PM
Called them and they will send a new one.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Jon on January 23, 2015, 08:54:28 PM
Good outcome.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Barrabart on January 25, 2015, 01:24:18 AM
Called them and they will send a new one.

Good stuff..... Bit of a pain you bought a dud..... But good to see Evakool standing behind their product.......... I've had one for a few years now, love the thing. :cheers:
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on January 31, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
Update.... new fridge still has not arrived . they promised that as soon as the old fridge was on the truck they would post the new one. Called today and was told that they never said that. New one only just posted yesterday.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 03, 2015, 02:19:33 PM
Update 2: Call Evakool to find out where my fridge was. They told me that it is sitting at the Toll depot waiting for ME to pick it up from there?!?

Starting to lose faith in this company.....
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on February 03, 2015, 02:32:47 PM
Not defending Evakool, but I think you're being just a bit harsh on them, that's only 7 working days turn around and the couriers should have either called you or delivered it to you. The Evakool dispatch was probably a bit slack in sending the replacement back to the Toll depot instead of having it delivered to you, just have a look at the address on the consignment note  ;D
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 03, 2015, 02:43:23 PM
Yeah but speaking to Evakool they never asked for the new one to be home delivered just to the depot....
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: bentnose on February 04, 2015, 03:49:42 PM
me thinks, pretty ordinary customer service by evakool so far. too bad if you were travelling or its your only source of refrigeration.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 04, 2015, 03:59:22 PM
Just got it home from the depot only to open it and guess what? No cover!
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 04, 2015, 06:35:43 PM
Fridge has been on for 3 hours. Set temp to -18 & 4. Still sitting at 22 & 20 ATM. Did they just send the old one back?
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on February 04, 2015, 06:48:45 PM
Oh dear,  :'( , you have plugged it into the power  ??? ;D ;D


Fridge has been on for 3 hours. Set temp to -18 & 4. Still sitting at 22 & 20 ATM. Did they just send the old one back?
check the serial numbers  :police:
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Malcolm Tugless on February 04, 2015, 08:15:49 PM
Seriously ... thats intolerable ... I'd move back to New Zealand.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 04, 2015, 10:50:04 PM
Seven hours running and still on 20 & 21. Just noticed that this model is showing as out of stock until April. Maybe they sent me a return? That would explain the cover no show.


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Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: jetcrew on February 05, 2015, 12:39:53 AM
James ..time to pony up and buy an engle mate ;D ;D ;D

For under $800 you can get a brand new eclipse and they are at least a decent brand with good history...not a Chinese cheapish re branded.

Jet ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 05, 2015, 05:36:49 AM
James ..time to pony up and buy an engle mate ;D ;D ;D

For under $800 you can get a brand new eclipse and they are at least a decent brand with good history...not a Chinese cheapish re branded.

Jet ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yep. You're right I think. Gone up to 24c this morning so it is just doing ambient temp.
I was under the impression that Evakool fridges are made in Oz for Oz conditions but it seems they are imported?
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Malcolm Tugless on February 05, 2015, 05:47:05 AM
They make some models in Australia, while importing others.

We have a 45lt Travelmate (imported) and its fantastic.

The Evacool branded fibreglass models are manufactured here, along with the rotomolded Fridge Mate. I'm pretty sure that all the other models are imported.

Which model are you having these issues with ?
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: oldmate on February 05, 2015, 05:49:04 AM
Yep. You're right I think. Gone up to 24c this morning so it is just doing ambient temp.
I was under the impression that Evakool fridges are made in Oz for Oz conditions but it seems they are imported?

Well that's just forked isn't it. Sure you didn't buy the pie warmer?
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: tracker on February 05, 2015, 05:57:53 AM
G'Day All,

             Gezzzzzzz Kiwi.......I think you should be genuinely PISSED OFFFF !!!!  I'd be going off like a frog in a sock.....There's no pride in business these day's.......Just bottom line profits..... >:(
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 05, 2015, 06:37:31 AM
Well that's just forked isn't it. Sure you didn't buy the pie warmer?

Well, it sure has warmed me up!  >:(
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 05, 2015, 06:38:38 AM
G'Day All,

             Gezzzzzzz Kiwi.......I think you should be genuinely PISSED OFFFF !!!!  I'd be going off like a frog in a sock.....There's no pride in business these day's.......Just bottom line profits..... >:(

Yeah, now I'm really concerned that they won't want to refund my money...
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on February 05, 2015, 07:43:49 AM
Yeah, now I'm really concerned that they won't want to refund my money...
Did you pay by credit card ? If so
Steps to take in writing
 Notify them the 2nd fridge is not working and what has happened previously
Wait about 2 days for a reply
If no reply or reply is unsatisfactory tell them you are going to "dispute the charge" with you c/c provider.
print out copies of your correspondence with Evakool including delivery dockets
take them to your bank and tell them you want to dispute the payment
cheers Keith  :cheers:
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: bentnose on February 05, 2015, 10:13:46 AM
kiwi, you have rights and are protected under Australian consumer law. Advise evacrap in writing demanding a full refund within 7 days otherwise you will take action for recovery etc etc. the fridges evacrap import are basically chinese rubbish. the ones they assemble in aust are marginally better. a few years back to save a dollar they even stopped putting a gas bleeder valve in and now simply crimp the pipe over. down the track you need a regas or get a service the fridge tech bloke needs to put one in. who pays for his labour, you guessed it the fridge owner (cost me $80.00). FFS!.
Or Destroy your fridge online say under a falling from great height equally useless jeep and I will donate $20.00 towards you buying an ENGEL replacement.
Im hopping mad and its not even my fridge.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH EVACRAP
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: paulo on February 06, 2015, 01:15:30 PM
Or you could ring them, explain what's going on and ask them to sort it out and tell them if they don't soon you would like a refund.

I don't know why you would be worried they won't give you a refund.


Things come with a warranty for a reason, but I would still be asking where you cover is, and maybe don't send it next time.

Good luck, hope it ends well.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: KingBilly on February 06, 2015, 01:36:58 PM
Have dealt with Evakool twice about a faulty wireless temperature guage (can't fault their fridge) and both times my inquiry has been dealt with politely and  efficiently.

Ranting, raving and threatening will not achieve anything.  Remain calm and polite and I am sure you issues will be resolved.

KB
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 06, 2015, 02:52:01 PM
Yep, I have never ranted to them. They will refund After they receive the fridge back next week.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 06, 2015, 02:54:09 PM
Just had REALLY REALLY bad luck. Will try a waeco next week as I drive pass their Burleigh Heads store every week. maybe a CFX seconds.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: KingBilly on February 06, 2015, 08:05:03 PM
Yep, I have never ranted to them. They will refund After they receive the fridge back next week.

Mate, never said you had.  Just advising to stay cool.

Glad you are getting a refund.  Pity about your wasted time.

KB
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 06, 2015, 08:42:06 PM
Mate, never said you had.  Just advising to stay cool.

Glad you are getting a refund.  Pity about your wasted time.

KB
Shame really as I thought I was supporting a local company and all.
Any opinions regarding alternatives?
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: KingBilly on February 06, 2015, 08:57:36 PM
I have an EvaKool white finreglass fridge which I am happy with.  Also have a small Engel which I am also happy with.  Had other Engels in the past, also no issues.

KB
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: muzza01 on February 06, 2015, 09:27:13 PM
Bloody unlucky mate.
We have had our Evacool for 5 or 6 years now. I can't fault it. It's a very economical fridge (95lt). It's been to the Cape twice and many other rough roads, it's also been dropped. It just keeps on going.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 16, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Still have NOT got my refund from Evacrap. They have the second fridge back for nearly a week. Last Wednesday I was told over the phone that the monies would go though that day. Now I am being told that it has to get "signed off" by the big boss, whatever that means. Twice they have lied to me now!!!!


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Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on February 16, 2015, 06:15:54 PM
That's pretty poor mate, fwiw I've got an Evakool 60ltr and can't fault it, and last week got a 2nd hand Bushman 35/55 ltr fridge and it went from 26 to -4 in about 40 minutes  ;D
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Barrabart on February 16, 2015, 06:34:10 PM
G'day Kiwipride,

Mate you've sure had the run around by the sounds of it.......... in saying that, i've had one of Evakool's white f'glass 60ltr units for a few years now, it's never missed a beat.

I'm guessing Evakool got into the import units to compliment their Aus made units, no doubt they seen a demand for cheaper fridges, and thought why not......... wonder if they're still thinking that now.... though, it does appear your situation is just plain unlucky, as i haven't seen too many other negatives on here regarding their fridges..... hope they sort you out mate, and hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Evakool. :cheers:
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: xcvator on February 16, 2015, 09:06:11 PM
G'day Kiwipride,

 and hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Evakool. :cheers:
Geeze I hope not because their made here fridges are very good
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Malcolm Tugless on February 16, 2015, 09:16:54 PM
I doubt that its the end of the line for Evakool ... and without trying to be overly disrespectful to our complainant, lets remember that we're only getting one side of the story here. I for one would like to listen to both sides of the story prior to making an objective judgement on this situation.

Anyway ... I hope that our trans tasman transplant has more success with the next chully bun.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Kangaron on February 16, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Another happy Evakool user here, a 47L fiberglass jobby.
I cleaned mine a few weeks ago and went from ambient [about 32C] to 2C  in about 50 minutes, and that was empty.
Seems to be a common theme going on, everyone wants to save a few bucks, but costs more in the long run.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Barrabart on February 16, 2015, 10:38:04 PM
Geeze I hope not because their made here fridges are very good
I doubt that its the end of the line for Evakool ... and without trying to be overly disrespectful to our complainant, lets remember that we're only getting one side of the story here. I for one would like to listen to both sides of the story prior to making an objective judgement on this situation.

Anyway ... I hope that our trans tasman transplant has more success with the next chully bun.

Agree with you both.......... Like i said, i'm really happy with my unit, just would hate to see Evakool take a diabolical turn for the worse, same goes with any other good Aussie business. Doubt this is the case though..... especially looking at thier great history of good product and customer service.... i did do a bit of research through different forums etc before buying my fridge from them a couple of years back, and found nothing but good things being said about them. Hope all goes well for all parties concerned.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 17, 2015, 06:05:48 AM
I doubt that its the end of the line for Evakool ... and without trying to be overly disrespectful to our complainant, lets remember that we're only getting one side of the story here. I for one would like to listen to both sides of the story prior to making an objective judgement on this situation.

Anyway ... I hope that our trans tasman transplant has more success with the next chully bun.

Of course Mal, my side only, but I would be more than happy for a Evakool rep to post here... ;D I have just stated the facts. I purchased an Evakool because of the good rep they have. I just had very bad luck I guess. I am now more disappointed with the response (they have acknowledged that both fridges are faulty) regarding the refund.

I have since bought a CFX50 (price match Anaconda) so would like my monies back to offset that payment.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: bentnose on February 17, 2015, 09:10:19 AM
Calling Evakool, Calling Evakool!
You have an unhappy disgruntled customer.

Kiwi if you havent already done so, keep a diary of events, telephone calls, discussions, receipts, names  promises made by them etc etc.
As I have previously stated you have rights and protection under Aust consumer law.

Deep Pockets and Short Arms springs to mind

Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 18, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
So SWMBO called Evacrap today and was told that it was sitting on their desk and that it will be done soon. She told them it must be done now as they have had our money for over one month. They said that they will do it right away. My wife then got a text 20 minutes later from Evacrap saying that they can only refund half today because they have a limit on their machine!!!!
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: krisandkev on February 18, 2015, 12:55:55 PM
I can not believe how you are being treated.  We have a Evakool and love it but from your experience I would not but a new one.  Kevin
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: jwb on February 18, 2015, 12:57:18 PM
Call em up & try  to speak to upper management?
I would be livid if getting this type of responce from them.
Go hard!
The difference  between ordinary customer service  and
Extra ordinary  customer service  is just that little bit extra
A big fail to Evakool on this one.
A shame really.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: bentnose on February 18, 2015, 03:40:33 PM
Deary Dear Me
it appears they have got even worse than the dealing I had with them. Why do they have to make something so simple, sooooo bloody hard.
Keep persevering Kiwi I don't think they do it deliberately.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: UIZ733 on February 18, 2015, 03:58:34 PM
Deary Dear Me
Keep persevering Kiwi I don't think they do it deliberately.
If they are NOT doing it deliberately, then they must be absolutely inept. Take your pick as to which is worse. I would be ANGRY to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Kangaron on February 18, 2015, 05:41:12 PM
Not good enough but every mob have their bad moments.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: evakool on February 24, 2015, 08:23:40 AM
Evakool is clearly disappointed to hear of Jason’s experience and is pleased to advise the matter has been resolved.

Unfortunately all manufactured products can at some time or the other malfunction and it is for that very  reason  they are sold with a warranty.

In Australia we are fortunate to have some of the best consumer protection laws in the world.

All Evakool products are sold with a guarantee which is supported both by our service department in Queensland as well as a nationwide  network of dealers and service agents.

Evakool is proud of its customer service record and stands by all our products.

We accordingly would advise all our customers if you ever have a problem with an Evakool product , whether new or used  to contact us directly , for professional advice and expert service.


Allan Smith - Director Evakool
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: Malcolm Tugless on February 24, 2015, 09:53:52 AM
Allan

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

It was speaking with you personally that swayed my wife and I into purchasing a 45lt EvaKool Travel Mate at the Brissy camping show a couple of years back.

We'd originally gone there to decide whether to buy an Engel Eclipse or Waeco. We were aware of your other Aussie made models, and their great reputation in the marketplace, but weren't too keen on splashing that much cash.   

After speaking with you on the way in, we mooched around the show, eventually gravitated back to your stand. Umming and ahhing at the plethora of refrigeration models on display. Eventually settling on the 45lt Travel Mate. Value for money it was head and shoulders above anything else available at the show, or elsewhere for that matter. Its still going strong, robust and frugal enough on the power consumption side of the equation. We are more than happy with our purchase.

I'd have no hesitation whatsoever in doing business with EvaKool again.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: bentnose on February 24, 2015, 10:05:33 AM
Thank you Allan and Evakool for taking care of kiwiprides faulty product and refund issue. (as by consumer law you were required to have done so)

Having said that your response is a stock standard everyday company reply. There was for instance no mention of reviewing systems and policies or even a gesture of goodwill to kiwi such as a freebie or something to help compensate him for his time, frustrations and angst.

Kiwi did contact Evakool (numerous times) and it would appear he did not get Professional advice and Expert Service so without the underlying issue of policy and procedures at your end being addressed I fear the problems of consumer frustration can and will persist.

Anyway that's my two cents worth


Title: Re: Evakool taking long time to cool on 240v
Post by: kiwipride on February 24, 2015, 12:26:05 PM
Thank you Allan and Evakool for taking care of kiwiprides faulty product and refund issue. (as by consumer law you were required to have done so)

Having said that your response is a stock standard everyday company reply. There was for instance no mention of reviewing systems and policies or even a gesture of goodwill to kiwi such as a freebie or something to help compensate him for his time, frustrations and angst.

Kiwi did contact Evakool (numerous times) and it would appear he did not get Professional advice and Expert Service so without the underlying issue of policy and procedures at your end being addressed I fear the problems of consumer frustration can and will persist.

Anyway that's my two cents worth
Well said. This was my issue too. I could have handled the bad luck issue with being sent two faulty products, but it was the service that concerned me the most. Fortunitly I found Allan's email and then and only then things got done.

Thanks for your help Allan, really, but it shouldn't have come to that.

Also, welcome to the forum.