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« Reply #850 on: June 28, 2020, 07:49:55 AM »
And......
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« Reply #851 on: June 28, 2020, 01:08:43 PM »
Yep just finished weekly grocery shop - there is a shortage of toilet paper and paper towel on local Coles shelves (at least on Sunshine Coast)

We couldn't be that stupid again surely?
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« Reply #852 on: June 28, 2020, 01:37:58 PM »
Yep just finished weekly grocery shop - there is a shortage of toilet paper and paper towel on local Coles shelves (at least on Sunshine Coast)

We couldn't be that stupid again surely?

Is that a challenge??
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« Reply #853 on: June 28, 2020, 01:42:05 PM »
Is that a challenge??

Challenge accepted and completed.  Redlynch,  Coles was nearly out.   The loony fringe strike again... >:D >:D >:D
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« Reply #854 on: June 28, 2020, 06:23:28 PM »
Are the locals stocking up in preparation for us Mexicans?
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« Reply #855 on: June 29, 2020, 06:58:36 PM »
In 4 months 103 Covid Deaths and country Shut down same time 720 male sucides yet no fuss
Why??
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« Reply #856 on: June 29, 2020, 07:16:59 PM »
In 4 months 103 Covid Deaths and country Shut down same time 720 male sucides yet no fuss
Why??
Having lost a brother to suicide I am sometimes baffled by our inability to talk about it, there will have been on average eight suicides a day, 6 men and 2 women. 95% of men who attempt suicide succeed.
Less than 20% of women succeed and it is seen as a cry for help.
We are better at discussing than we were twenty years ago but still it doesn’t get enough attention.
It would be highlighted if we posted numbers like we do with the road toll.
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« Reply #857 on: June 29, 2020, 07:29:30 PM »
Having lost a brother to suicide I am sometimes baffled by our inability to talk about it, there will have been on average eight suicides a day, 6 men and 2 women. 95% of men who attempt suicide succeed.
Less than 20% of women succeed and it is seen as a cry for help.
We are better at discussing than we were twenty years ago but still it doesn’t get enough attention.
It would be highlighted if we posted numbers like we do with the road toll.


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« Reply #858 on: June 29, 2020, 07:48:55 PM »
Pottsy,
A work mate has,
A very good mates Father and his brother has.
I'm mates with a few Coppers( serving and retied) there have attended.
It effects all, but very rarely mentioned.

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« Reply #859 on: June 29, 2020, 08:03:31 PM »
Hairs, my brother was serving police officer at the time of his suicide, he was just one of four officers I know of that committed suicide. I remember the day as if it was just yesterday but it was 22 years ago. Yes the effects can be far reaching, sadly there is a stigma which suicide attracts, sometimes through ignorance, sometimes through anger.

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« Reply #860 on: June 29, 2020, 08:23:56 PM »
Pottsy,
I can not start to imagine what you have, still going through.
Take care.
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« Reply #861 on: June 29, 2020, 09:24:27 PM »
sadly there is a stigma which suicide attracts, sometimes through ignorance, sometimes through anger.

I think a lot of people think "how could they do that and leave a wife,mother ,sister or whoever behind" but a depressed person isn't thinking of that in their dire times.

I know a person who has had many many thoughts of that dark road ahead, but the next step of converting thoughts into action is maybe the area that we need to understand how or if it will happen ?
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« Reply #862 on: June 29, 2020, 09:38:05 PM »
I think a lot of people think "how could they do that and leave a wife,mother ,sister or whoever behind" but a depressed person isn't thinking of that in their dire times.

I know a person who has had many many thoughts of that dark road ahead, but the next step of converting thoughts into action is maybe the area that we need to understand how or if it will happen ?
As silly as this may seem it is sometimes a combination of a spur of the moment decision and the where with all to do it. Access to a weapon, dark thoughts whilst at work in comparison to, dark thoughts, no weapon and being at home.
Can you pick a suicidal person, I don’t believe so, the only real indicators you may see is if the effected person opens up, admits they are having some issues and seeks help.
It is important to allow people to vent sometimes, listen, offer help,let people know you are therefor them and encourage them to seek professional help
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« Reply #863 on: June 29, 2020, 09:42:56 PM »
Pottsy,
I can not start to imagine what you have, still going through.
Take care.
Hairs, I’m good mate, I had some experiences in my teenage years which changed my way of thinking and I’ve learnt to accept what life can throw at you and not lose sleep or worry about the things I can’t control. Do I get wound up sometimes, you betcha, but it doesn’t last long and I move on.
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« Reply #864 on: June 29, 2020, 09:51:38 PM »
I think a lot of people think "how could they do that and leave a wife,mother ,sister or whoever behind" but a depressed person isn't thinking of that in their dire times.

I know a person who has had many many thoughts of that dark road ahead, but the next step of converting thoughts into action is maybe the area that we need to understand how or if it will happen ?

I only base this on personal experience from my prior occupation, for most suicides that final next to them was the next natural step to take.  While some had taken extraordinary measures before hand, others were impulse actions but for either it was a their next natural step.
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« Reply #865 on: June 30, 2020, 03:00:44 PM »
Should be an interesting press conference by Andrews at 3.15...
Back to sq1 or pure lockdown.... who knows.
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« Reply #866 on: June 30, 2020, 03:25:52 PM »
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Lockdown orders to be imposed in 10 Melbourne postcodes

Stay at home orders will be imposed on 10 Melbourne postcodes in Melbourne's north and west from tomorrow night because of "unacceptably high" rates of community transmission of coronavirus, Premier Daniel Andrews has said.

From 11.59pm tomorrow until July 24, Premier Andrews said people in the postcodes 3012, 3021, 3032, 3038, 3042, 3046, 3047, 3055, 3060, 3064 should only leave home for work, to provide care, to get exercise or to buy groceries.

He said anyone in these postcodes who was found outside their home without a reason would receive an on-the-spot fine.

Premier Andrews said the action was being taken in these postcodes to prevent the virus from spreading and the situation reaching a stage where "every postcode" had to be locked down.
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« Reply #867 on: June 30, 2020, 03:53:29 PM »
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Lockdown orders to be imposed in 10 Melbourne postcodes

Stay at home orders will be imposed on 10 Melbourne postcodes in Melbourne's north and west from tomorrow night because of "unacceptably high" rates of community transmission of coronavirus, Premier Daniel Andrews has said.

From 11.59pm tomorrow until July 24, Premier Andrews said people in the postcodes 3012, 3021, 3032, 3038, 3042, 3046, 3047, 3055, 3060, 3064 should only leave home for work, to provide care, to get exercise or to buy groceries.

He said anyone in these postcodes who was found outside their home without a reason would receive an on-the-spot fine.

Premier Andrews said the action was being taken in these postcodes to prevent the virus from spreading and the situation reaching a stage where "every postcode" had to be locked down.



And they are not welcome in Qld as well.   Border to remain shut....   Seems to me, from news reports , that immigrants are a major part of the issue...regardless...If you refuse testing..you do forced isolation.  Wonder what part of "deadly virus" they dont understand.
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« Reply #868 on: June 30, 2020, 05:18:14 PM »
Hairs, I’m good mate, I had some experiences in my teenage years which changed my way of thinking and I’ve learnt to accept what life can throw at you and not lose sleep or worry about the things I can’t control. Do I get wound up sometimes, you betcha, but it doesn’t last long and I move on.
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« Reply #869 on: June 30, 2020, 07:28:48 PM »
I've been wondering if the number of corona cases is relative to the extent of testing being carried out. Victoria has been doing a mega lot of testing in the last few weeks. Some of the test sites around Melbourne have had waiting times of 3-4 hours. Curious to see what other states are doing.

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« Reply #870 on: June 30, 2020, 07:55:43 PM »
I've been wondering if the number of corona cases is relative to the extent of testing being carried out. Victoria has been doing a mega lot of testing in the last few weeks. Some of the test sites around Melbourne have had waiting times of 3-4 hours. Curious to see what other states are doing.

as you say, chances are more testing = more positives... in reality other states could very well be in the same boat.
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« Reply #871 on: June 30, 2020, 08:06:19 PM »
as you say, chances are more testing = more positives... in reality other states could very well be in the same boat.

We could just do a "trump"
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« Reply #872 on: June 30, 2020, 08:55:50 PM »
We could just do a "trump"

yep... less testing = less positive results = WINNING!!!!  :cheers:

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« Reply #873 on: June 30, 2020, 09:13:11 PM »
as you say, chances are more testing = more positives... in reality other states could very well be in the same boat.

They could be, but in reality you mexicans are all on your own with this one. NSW for one still do a lot of testing, but even with reduced testing, there would still be some positive tests if the virus was hanging around.
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« Reply #874 on: July 01, 2020, 06:41:03 AM »
They could be, but in reality you mexicans are all on your own with this one. NSW for one still do a lot of testing, but even with reduced testing, there would still be some positive tests if the virus was hanging around.

Same in QLD. Just an unlucky confluence of events in Victoria. The businesses in those suburbs must be doing it really tough, having just reopened recently.