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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #750 on: April 21, 2020, 10:28:00 PM »
Went to the local Bunnings early on Sunday morning.
Nobody else around, but I was made to enter via the other side of the entry as that is now the designated "IN" door.
How do one-way aisles and designated IN and OUT doors keep people separated?
Some of these policies really make you wonder....

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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #751 on: April 22, 2020, 05:23:14 AM »
Quote from: GeoffA on April 21, 2020, 10:28:00 PM
Went to the local Bunnings early on Sunday morning.
Nobody else around, but I was made to enter via the other side of the entry as that is now the designated "IN" door.
How do one-way aisles and designated IN and OUT doors keep people separated?
Some of these policies really make you wonder....

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No-one is going to get it 100% correct or even close.

But, they are trying to do stuff to make people as safe as they can.
Some stuff is over the top, some stuff, not so much..... but they're having a go.

Not having a shot at you Geoff, just folks in general.

Everyday, half the country says were not doing enough.
The other half thinks its waaaay over the top and too much.

Regardless of what's done, ya can't please all the people all the time.

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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #752 on: April 22, 2020, 09:46:59 AM »
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2020, 05:23:14 AM
No-one is going to get it 100% correct or even close.

But, they are trying to do stuff to make people as safe as they can.
Some stuff is over the top, some stuff, not so much..... but they're having a go.

Not having a shot at you Geoff, just folks in general.

Everyday, half the country says were not doing enough.
The other half thinks its waaaay over the top and too much.

Regardless of what's done, ya can't please all the people all the time.

I'd settle for logical.....
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« Reply #753 on: April 22, 2020, 09:56:39 AM »
Quote from: GeoffA on April 22, 2020, 09:46:59 AM
I'd settle for logical.....

Good luck with that concept.  :D
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« Reply #754 on: April 22, 2020, 12:12:16 PM »
Don't count on a vaccine in a hurry and with more Oz States getting zero outcomes with ramped up testing and we manage knock it on the head Australia is headed for a massive paradigm shift in quarantining every arrival from then on- https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-has-mutated-to-become-deadlier-in-europe-than-the-us-study-finds/ar-BB12ZC9b

PS: That will be full user pays remember and not the cheap hotels at present with free comprehensive testing-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nt-arrivals-face-dollar2500-bill-for-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine/ar-BB11Tm1L
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« Reply #755 on: April 23, 2020, 03:59:52 PM »
It's not exactly making life easy for the test, test, test, tracking and quarantining routine-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/recovered-almost-chinas-early-patients-unable-to-shed-coronavirus/ar-BB132jaH
If word got around they want positive testers to quarantine until the all clear that could result in some reluctance to get sniffle tested. (a further dark horse is there's some evidence emerging OS that it hangs around longer with those having had flu shots albeit with mild symptoms )  All will be revealed ultimately.
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #756 on: April 29, 2020, 09:34:18 AM »
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #757 on: May 12, 2020, 02:18:54 AM »
It varies a bit from week to week but it's comforting to know the omniscient overlords have it all under control-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/scientists-concerned-that-coronavirus-is-adapting-to-humans/ar-BB13SW98

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/past-studies-have-revealed-coronavirus-vaccines-actually-enhanced-infection/ar-BB13TJSN

Meanwhile in South Oz I'm still contemplating which of the State's RV friendliest regions to anoint with our overwhelming presence and economic largesse as the Premier beckons. Perhaps with all the Fed helicopter money there won't be the fireworks and welcoming parades promised? At any rate the munchkins back at school should please a few impromptu home schoolers no doubt  ;D
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #758 on: May 12, 2020, 09:39:14 AM »
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/past-studies-have-revealed-coronavirus-vaccines-actually-enhanced-infection/ar-BB13TJSN

then that wouldnt be a vaccine would it... ?
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #759 on: May 12, 2020, 10:18:26 AM »
Germany reported that new coronavirus infections were accelerating exponentially after early steps to ease its lockdown, news that sounded a global alarm even as businesses opened from Paris hair salons to Shanghai Disneyland.
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« Reply #760 on: May 12, 2020, 08:32:36 PM »
Quote from: Bird on May 12, 2020, 09:39:14 AM
then that wouldnt be a vaccine would it... ?

Well I understand that's the big problem because coronaviruses are responsible for the common cold along with rhinoviruses and there hasn't been any successful vaccines yet although they've tried but they're no doubt looking for more volunteers....?

Anyhow with Rona it looks like we blokes have drawn the short straw again-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/why-men-are-more-vulnerable-to-covid-19/ar-BB13SF4h
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #761 on: May 15, 2020, 08:01:41 AM »
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« Reply #762 on: May 16, 2020, 12:11:56 PM »
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« Reply #763 on: May 16, 2020, 02:14:32 PM »
Quote from: Bird on May 16, 2020, 12:11:56 PM
Interesting to see how those that catch it the second time fare.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/sailors-on-sidelined-aircraft-carrier-get-coronavirus-for-second-time-20200516-p54tj5.html

We know virtually jackShit about this virus but many just write it off as a nothing event.  So many people trying to do the right thing but a few morons can ruin it for all. Its all about me and not we now...no wonder we are in strife..

America is in big trouble...thank goodness I live in the worlds best country.   Private health may be expensive but at least our public health system works!!
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« Reply #764 on: May 16, 2020, 04:55:24 PM »
Well just to reiterate we all need to be responsible for our own family/household health and just like a thermometer to test for fever you should also have an inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeter-
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/explained/article/3083871/why-singapore-issuing-20000-pulse-oximeters-migrant-workers
They will test for any of the many viral respiratory infection threats including the silent killer pneumonia although at present they're in short supply with higher pricing as the world wakes up to their value in triaging respiratory problems early. You have the answer at your fingertips- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wouUBT80nU
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #765 on: May 16, 2020, 05:10:38 PM »
Quote from: prodigyrf on May 16, 2020, 04:55:24 PM
Well just to reiterate we all need to be responsible for our own family/household health and just like a thermometer to test for fever you should also have an inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeter-
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/explained/article/3083871/why-singapore-issuing-20000-pulse-oximeters-migrant-workers
They will test for any of the many viral respiratory infection threats including the silent killer pneumonia although at present they're in short supply with higher pricing as the world wakes up to their value in triaging respiratory problems early. You have the answer at your fingertips- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wouUBT80nU

They are really useful for giving a quantitative assessment to the hospital/emergency services when you contact them. Much better than saying I am short of breath
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #766 on: May 16, 2020, 05:56:41 PM »
Quote from: Bigfish on May 16, 2020, 02:14:32 PM


America is in big trouble...thank goodness I live in the worlds best country.

As for the virus, Taiwan is the "best" country ATM. Nearly the same population as us, but 440 cases, 7 deaths......compared to us...7,000 cases ...98 deaths.
They locked their borders a lot earlier than us, which is what we should have done.
But yes, on the whole, we are one lucky country.
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« Reply #767 on: May 16, 2020, 06:10:15 PM »
Quote from: gronk on May 16, 2020, 05:56:41 PM
As for the virus, Taiwan is the "best" country ATM. Nearly the same population as us, but 440 cases, 7 deaths......compared to us...7,000 cases ...98 deaths.
They locked their borders a lot earlier than us, which is what we should have done.
But yes, on the whole, we are one lucky country.

Doesn,t matter about the virus Gronk...we are still the best country to live in.  Agree...we should have shut down earlier and the Ruby Princess debacle was a complete cluster f.  Scomo,s jogging along ok now...big test will be in a few months when the economy (and the world) will be in a not so good place. :cheers:
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #768 on: May 16, 2020, 06:25:33 PM »
Quote from: Bigfish on May 16, 2020, 06:10:15 PM
Doesn,t matter about the virus Gronk...we are still the best country to live in.  Agree...we should have shut down earlier and the Ruby Princess debacle was a complete cluster f.  Scomo,s jogging along ok now...big test will be in a few months when the economy (and the world) will be in a not so good place. :cheers:
Agree with you both.
6 months from now, will be the test.
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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #769 on: May 16, 2020, 08:39:17 PM »
did I hear on the news they are saying Russia is the new hot spot for COVID-19 with now over 274000 confirmed case, second to the USA.   Their Death rate is still low by comparison,  only about 2700 compared to 10s of thousands in UK and some European Countries.   So much for early comments about Russia not being infected by their Chinese Comrades. 
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« Reply #770 on: May 17, 2020, 03:09:53 PM »
News reports today,
cambodia 0 covid cases.
What The?
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« Reply #771 on: May 17, 2020, 03:50:46 PM »
Quote from: Hairs on May 17, 2020, 03:09:53 PM
News reports today,
cambodia 0 covid cases.
What The?

If politicians pay rate relied on honesty majority would all be broke and penniless...
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« Reply #772 on: May 17, 2020, 04:45:06 PM »
Quote from: Bigfish on May 17, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
If politicians pay rate relied on honesty majority would all be broke and penniless...
Yep, agree.
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« Reply #773 on: May 18, 2020, 02:10:52 PM »
The virus has been around long enough for the graphs to start showing what’s actually going on.
Or more specifically, what effect different countries strategies are having.


The Aus ‘lockdown’ model;




The UK’s ‘herd immunity’ model;




And the USA’s ‘pretend it doesn’t exist, tell the population it will magically disappear’ model;



Coincidentally that 1.5 million cases in the US equates to almost 35% of the total global cases.
Not sure if they’ve been given an exact date when it will magically disappear from their country, but I guess they’re hoping it’s pretty soon. :(
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« Reply #774 on: May 18, 2020, 02:34:36 PM »
I spoke to my parents in the UK, who are already despairing of how the govt are (mis)managing it - but this was reinforced when I told them the number of deaths in their county was over double the whole of Australia...

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/health/coronavirus-covid19/2020/05/17/three-more-county-coronavirus-deaths-confirmed/

Stay home, or if you can't, at least stay locally, even as things "open up" - there are areas of NSW that are now approaching a couple of weeks without new cases, and this pattern needs to spread across the whole State.
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