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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2016, 07:02:59 PM »
..one of the many reasons I'm not as passionate as I used to be..
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2016, 07:10:12 PM »
I don't agree with the 15 sec penalty , but thems are the rules at the time. I was hoping to see Tander win , and yes I agree that he was a bit to blame in the crash. 

But what pissed me off the most was having to watch adds for 2 laps every 5 on Foxtel. What happened to no adds on pay TV?
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2016, 07:19:22 PM »
It will be interesting to see if Whingecup lodges an appeal. He might not but Roland Dane probably will.

Dane already has...
There has to be some penalty for Whincup in all that. For him to get of scotfree is wrong, but Red Bull always get away with it.

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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2016, 07:21:58 PM »
Red Bull's checkbook is appealing the whincup penalty.
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2016, 07:25:30 PM »
Watching it on foxtel .... no adverts during the race ..... always try to watch all ...... and my wife loves the supercars just as much as i do if not more ...  :)
Now although the Foxtel people like to announce ad free. You know that's not the truth. The difference between me and you is, you pay for your ads.


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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2016, 07:29:44 PM »
Well....looks like I tuned back in for the last couple of hours just at the right time....all the action happened from then on !!

My opinion: winchup appears to be only thinking of self glory and out doing Brock. No doubt he caused that accident by making a gap that wasn't really there. His record at Bathurst over the last few years is very telling.
McLaughlin was entitled to get back on the track after being pushed off by winchup. Obviously didn't see Tander. Tander was a bit cheeky in taking advantage of the situation, but the accident wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for winchup slowing.

Once again frosty choked by hitting the wall at the start of conrod which damaged something in the rear which resulted in him spearing off down at the chase once again.

I was very disappointed for coulthard as I thought he was going to win....until frosty stuffed it.

Oh well....onwards and upwards for DJR/Penske next year....I hope !

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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2016, 07:34:34 PM »
McLaughlin was entitled to get back on the track after being pushed off by winchup.

Actually he wasn't. The rules state that if you're off the track you have to re-enter safely regardless of how you went off. So technically the 2nd accident was McLaughlin's fault.
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2016, 07:36:58 PM »
Actually he wasn't. The rules state that if you're off the track you have to re-enter safely regardless of how you went off. So technically the 2nd accident was McLaughlin's fault.


Yep, spot on. There was a bit of brain fade with all three drivers.
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2016, 07:42:55 PM »
Letting Whincup cross the line first left the door open for an appeal..... ::) ::)
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2016, 07:44:23 PM »
True, and it can still be good to watch, but the attachment of a brand to any of the teams is purely symbolic.

The category is irrelevant, and dying. Having said that, there will be beer consumed in my shed today....again....


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And like you plenty of beers will always be consumed on a 1000 weekend. Whatever car is racing. If fact the 12hr is almost more enjoyable.


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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2016, 07:46:27 PM »
http://www.supercars.com/news/championship/triple-eight-lodge-protest/

“It is questionable whether Jamie was guilty of any crime when you actually look at the incident with McLaughlin. The stewards have confirmed that the 15 seconds penalty is nothing to do with the aftermath. That wasn’t Jamie’s fault. It was only to do with the incident with McLaughlin.”


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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2016, 07:51:03 PM »
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not much happening in the race really, I'm getting bored myself. Just looked at the weather forecast and no rain forecast unfortunately, so not looking good for crash action today.
so it was the usual 140+ laps of follow the leader, then a bit of fluff at the end?
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2016, 07:53:12 PM »
Dane already has...
There has to be some penalty for Whincup in all that. For him to get of scotfree is wrong, but Red Bull always get away with it.
for the crime he committed the penalty is....he either redressed the situation himself (which is what he was trying to do), or if he doesn't do that he'll cop a drive through penalty or even like Rick Kelly (I think it was)had to do when his radio wasn't working, wait an extra 10 seconds at his next pit stop.
So technically Whincup was doing as the rules say, what happened after that was caused by the other 2 drivers....which I'll assume will be the teams arguement in the appeal.
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2016, 07:59:34 PM »
so it was the usual 140+ laps of follow the leader, then a bit of fluff at the end?

If you watched the whole race....boring or not, it can't have been that bad !! lol

And the rules state , after an incident you either redress or of you can't it's a 10 POINT penalty. So where did the 15 SECOND penalty come from ??
Tander played no part in the incident....if you watch it again, Scotty came back on at a too sharp an angle and drifted into Tander....Scotty even admitted it post race !!
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2016, 08:19:35 PM »

Yep, spot on. There was a bit of brain fade with all three drivers.

Fair comment  :cheers:

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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #90 on: October 09, 2016, 08:27:22 PM »
I don't like wingecup, and glad he didn't win..... but that was fk'd what he got.

What, are they not supposed to pass anymore??

If McLachlan came back on, and was let back in front, would there have been any penalty? no.

The accident was caused by an unsafe re-entry and Tander with a rush of blood trying to take advantage.

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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #91 on: October 09, 2016, 09:37:21 PM »
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If you watched the whole race....
whose that ****in stupid?? Nobody could sit through watching cars play follow the leader for 8 hours....
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #92 on: October 09, 2016, 10:02:01 PM »
Dane already has...
There has to be some penalty for Whincup in all that. For him to get of scotfree is wrong, but Red Bull always get away with it.

The penalty, assuming the other car comes back on, is redress. You can't redress if the guy takes himself out between coming back on and the redress.

The only question that needs to be answered is; if Mclachlan had re-entered cleanly, passed Wincup and then had his altercation with Tander would Wincup still get 15 seconds? If the answer is no then Wincup was robbed. He played no active part in the big hit and the stewards have now come out and said that.
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #93 on: October 10, 2016, 02:07:27 AM »
Is this a sport......Rather watch paint dry...... >:D >:D >:D.... ;D ;D
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #94 on: October 10, 2016, 05:44:28 AM »
Is this a sport......Rather watch paint dry...... >:D >:D >:D.... ;D ;D

Some say the same for cricket ??

If you don't like motor racing,  there's a button on the remote .......maybe Days of our lives would be suitable ??  Lol
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #95 on: October 10, 2016, 06:47:53 AM »
Bring it back a notch to these days ... Guessing this should realy be in the what made you smile thread ..
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #96 on: October 10, 2016, 07:20:08 AM »
Bring it back a notch to these days ... Guessing this should realy be in the what made you smile thread ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SE5fk4vXYU


Production car racing???

There is a category for that already and it enjoyable to watch too.

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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #97 on: October 10, 2016, 07:26:33 AM »
Did anyone watch the first part of Brock last night? I'm not sure if it's an accurate depiction, but if it is, he seems a bit of a tosser in the early days

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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #98 on: October 10, 2016, 07:39:29 AM »
I don't agree with the 15 sec penalty , but thems are the rules at the time. I was hoping to see Tander win , and yes I agree that he was a bit to blame in the crash. 

But what pissed me off the most was having to watch adds for 2 laps every 5 on Foxtel. What happened to no adds on pay TV?

No choice with the ads because of the anti syphoning rules with sport on TV, things like Bathurst, are shown on free TV as well as Pay, so the producers only air 1 version, but Foxtel fill the advert slots with their own ads instead of the commercial TV ones.

At least the red button worked, so when the ads came on, I just switched over to the in-car channel for a lap or so, then went back to the normal coverage, that way avoiding having the PIP/Adverts.
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Re: Bathurst 2016
« Reply #99 on: October 10, 2016, 08:17:12 AM »
A big well done to Whincup I reckon, 3 from 3  :cup:

3 years in a row he's had that race sewn up, 3 years in a row his ego has got the better of him and he's thrown the whole teams effort in the bin, just cause he's a tosser. Well done  :cup:

Best part of the race I thought was Lowndes in the car playing mechanic.  ;D
#1 son called me inside yesterday when his car had issues. I'm a big fan and supporter of Craig, but, he's not a race car mechanic. ;D
WTF was he doing in the car stopping mechanics from getting in there ??? That made my head hurt. Not as much though as when the mechanic did get in there, has team manager (or who ever) sitting in front of a lap top telling him which gear the car is in and to get it into neutral. He struggled, so someone else lends a hand. Between the three of them, they manage to run the transmission through the gear selection in the wrong direction, finally realising then all the way back to neutral ::)

Makes more sense now as to why Craig was in the car  ;D

The end of the race was good. I was surprised. I have the attention span of flea, yet managed to watch and enjoy the last 20 odd laps.
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