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RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:06:21 PM »
These things have got me interested, so where do you get them? i can see a few on ebay, they range from 20.00 to 40.00 but all the nutserts ive seen so far all look AF on ebay? I assume you can buy these things pretty easy locally?
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 01:09:36 PM »
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funny you say that as in my hand right now is my new ratchet DFS rivnut tool, It goes from 6 to 12 and costs about 450 bucks. I also have the smaller plier tipe that goes up to 6 and i think they are just over 100 odd.
 You can get by with out one if you only have a few to do but its a pain.
 nutserts and rivnuts can be bought from bolt suppliers and places like Blackwoods
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 02:03:25 PM »
Quote from: darren on February 05, 2010, 01:09:36 PM
Ben
funny you say that as in my hand right now is my new ratchet DFS rivnut tool, It goes from 6 to 12 and costs about 450 bucks. I also have the smaller plier tipe that goes up to 6 and i think they are just over 100 odd.
 You can get by with out one if you only have a few to do but its a pain.
 nutserts and rivnuts can be bought from bolt suppliers and places like Blackwoods
Darren

Darren, Did you get them from Blackwoods and if so would you have the part number (or page number) for the rivnut pliers? ;) I have to make all the edgeing for the front and sides of by trailer and I am thinking of using rivnuts to do it so I don't have the try and access the inside of the trailer.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 02:18:35 PM »
I'm not going to lie to you, they are an awesome tool!!!  ;D ;D ;D



I got mine from NQ Fasteners here in town. Was about $370, from memory. I tried Blackwoods, but they didn't have any, would have to order it in, and they'd never seen one so couldn't even tell me anything about it. You might have better luck.

Mine's just the plier-style one, but is in metric. Came with a bunch of nutserts in 4mm, 5mm, 6mm, 8mm and 10mm, from memory. Have had no trouble squeezing down the big 10mm ones. But the ratchet style one would be easier if you were doing a lot of them.

When I was looking to buy, I found a heap of Ebay US listings for them, with ali and steel rivnuts in metric and AF. Almost bought one form overseas and saved some $$$s, but needed it right then and there, so picked it up locally. The only problem with it is I need to come up with more projects to use it! It's great!

Good luck!
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 02:25:40 PM »
TOY80ST
Page 03-73 of the new book

 i got the ratchet one from Glade, as thats who does our fasteners
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 02:28:50 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nut-Riveter-3mm-4mm-5mm-6mm-Rivnut-Inserts-Rivet_W0QQitemZ160397629547QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Hand_Tools_Equipment?hash=item255871986b

found this one on ebay about 31.00 AUD+ delivery
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 02:30:47 PM »
My smaller one 'Looks ' like that
 cant help you on what its like though
Not a lot to loose
 Thats from UK though????
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 03:17:58 PM »
Ah, i just so happens i spent some time on this a few weeks ago.  ;) ;)

Beware of cheaper tools that are supplied with aluminium bits (gasweld sell these for 60 or 70 bucks). If you use them on steel the pivot points deform and you'll wreck it in minutes. I have a Fascor hand tool that came with 50 odd bits and a bag, does M4, M5 and M6 and if i remember correctly was about 140 bucks or so.

Its an awesome tool and spares are available for it. I bought mine from a big tool shop in Fyshwick (ACT) but i know Nepean Boltmaster in Penrith carry them.

They are an awesome tool.... change that to my favourite DIY tool!
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 03:26:00 PM »
Oooh - while I think of it - the only real "trick" when using the rivnuts is after you've drilled the hole to accept the rivnet, grab a small file and key a notch in one side of the hole. That way, if you go to unscrew a bolt that was screwed in too tightly, the rivnut won't just spin in the hole. I got lazy and didn't do this on a couple that I did, and paid the price pretty much straight away.

From the sounds of things, it looks like I paid too much for my kit! Still happy with what I've got, since it came with a whole bunch of nutserts themselves, which will pretty much last me forever.

Thanks!
Matto :)
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 03:33:11 PM »
Quote from: darren on February 05, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
TOY80st
Page 03-73 of the new book

 i got the ratchet one from Glade, as thats who does our fasteners
Darren

ordered him, but went for the pneumatic one instead ;D
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2010, 03:36:08 PM »
pneumatic... bet that stung?
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 05:03:16 PM »
On the spinning nutserts, get the knurled ones. they solve that problem
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 07:49:06 PM »
Quote from: Ben... on February 05, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
pneumatic... bet that stung?

Not me  ;D . The workshop needed one to fix covers on the sides of one of our job's that we do quite reguarly and we always weld nuts to the back side. When we weld the nuts on it burns the gal away and we are trying to avoid using never seize on them because the guys forget to put it on and next time we try too take them off they are stuck on the lase time we did the job we used nuserts and one of my guys bought his hand one in from home. I have bad wrists and couldn't pull it but the guys are fine with it. Don't worry it will get a work out at home I expect. I have 72 of the 10mm ones to put in my camper so this will be ideal  ;D.

It was $458 +
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2010, 04:59:05 AM »
Check this out  
http://www.ovesco.com.au/products.php?catname=Threaded%20Inserts&cat=8&sub=32&subname=Threaded%20Insert%20Tooling
 The two handled job is like my new one.
Hope that helps
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2010, 08:09:46 AM »
Used a few different sorts when I was doing a bit of train making.....the last one in the catologue was similar to the one we used for most of the jobs...although for bigger nutserts ( 16mm and bigger ) there was a big mother especially for them..
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2010, 08:29:48 AM »
Always up for a new toy, what about this kit?
http://www.ovesco.com.au/products.php?catname=Marson&cat=42&sub=74&subname=Marson Tooling

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2010, 08:35:38 AM »
that kits looks alright huh, good price.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2010, 08:37:30 AM »
Yeah for the price I could get one for that job I don't know about yet  ;D
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2010, 08:48:59 AM »
mmm that site is dangerous, far too many good things to buy, draw slides, gas struts....
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 09:10:04 AM »
I know this is a late reply, but I received a Gasweld catalogue in the mail the other day.  There was a Nutsert tool and assorted nutserts up to 6mm for $100.

https://ishop.gasweld.com.au/ishop/stock/item/524363

I borrowed one off a mate ages ago, and it looks very much the same as this.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2010, 07:15:40 PM »
Was thinking about getting one of these to finish off some wiring in the rear of the wagon.  However, a pit $exi for the little I have to do, so will make do with screws, washers and nyloc nuts.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2010, 07:47:55 PM »
Barry,

You can put them in with out the tool you have to make the hole slightly smaller so that they will need to be tapped in and then put the nutset in and tighten a bolt into it. Make sure you use the knurled ones though so they dont turn when you are putting them in. I have only ever tried 6mm ones this way with sucess. The 8mm or larger may prove difficult. I have about 60 to do so the tool was the only way to go. I was in Ovesco today and was druelling over their machines. I had a close look at the one that darren bought it would have to be the pick of the manual ones available there.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2010, 09:19:51 PM »
Does anyone know if they make stainless steel inserts maybe for marine applications.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2010, 09:52:04 PM »
Quote from: Couchpotato on June 16, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
Does anyone know if they make stainless steel inserts maybe for marine applications.


yes ... http://www.acumentaustralia.com.au/eurosert_39002.html
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2010, 10:20:06 PM »
We used a similar thing years ago building air seeders but they were called Huck Bolts.
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