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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #75 on: September 21, 2015, 10:13:20 PM »
Been in for 40 yrs, but you wonder why coal miners are in a union....the multi national companies try every trick in the book to undermine safety and conditions, then cry poor when they can't get their own way.
So just imagine mining without a union.  What was the name of the gold mine in Tassie???
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2015, 08:45:02 AM »
I feel for anyone going through redundancy that doesn't want to go... And have been in roles where I've had to decide and hand over the folder.
Hardest thing i have ever had to do... So many conflicting influences. I try to give it to people that want to go.

Yeah, that isn't fun.  Never had to do a redundancy but had to do a few dismissals, one of the worst aspects of the job.

Maybe i'm the idiot.... Or just too proud.

The problem is that you have to live with yourself as well.  Some people are very happy to take the coin without working for it, others wish they had that problem.
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2016, 05:19:36 PM »
2013 1st redundancy. 2014 2nd redundancy, 14 months later get another job 2 days ago after working for 6 months. with out warning all staff was escorted out of workplace and doors locked. Asked about our entitlements and could not or would not answer me.
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2016, 05:47:10 PM »
2013 1st redundancy. 2014 2nd redundancy, 14 months later get another job 2 days ago after working for 6 months. with out warning all staff was escorted out of workplace and doors locked. Asked about our entitlements and could not or would not answer me.

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« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2016, 06:16:29 PM »
2013 1st redundancy. 2014 2nd redundancy, 14 months later get another job 2 days ago after working for 6 months. with out warning all staff was escorted out of workplace and doors locked. Asked about our entitlements and could not or would not answer me.
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2016, 06:17:14 PM »
Took voluntary redundancy as an engineer from qantas in 2012. Was lucky and moved into management with a bus chassis builder. Resigned from there after being head hunted to another supplier. Start next week. The is life on the other side.


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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2016, 06:46:08 PM »
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2016, 08:23:27 PM »
My job in Canning vale WA officially finishes first week in July. Redundant after 19 years there as a electrician. Gone the way of a lot of manufacturing places over here in WA where the company boss's decide to manufacture in eastern states and transport to WA.
Slight bonus is possibly a months work after to empty warehouse and remove the equipment.
Company has looked after staff pretty well though, Told us about closure 9 months ago and have provided a lot of assistance with job search, interview technique etc.
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« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2016, 09:43:45 AM »
well its looking like my turn soon - we all got 'expression of interest' emails last Friday, had to have our expressions in by c.o.b. next Friday for it and of course the way its worded they'll only be keeping the ones the bosses want (did I say perochialism and nepotism run rife in my place...?) but the long termers have suggested we all hold out for the 'not-so-voluntary' redundancies. ever since I went there to work various board members have come and gone and every one of them has eyed of my group for outsourcing (we're one of the I.T. wings) but the complexity of it meant it got shelved every time (after however-many millions were wasted on studies of the concept). now technology has changed and it has become easier so with all of this going on we don't know where we're going to end up either. the missus has enough points up to retire now (age-wise, not financially) but I have a bit over two years before I can even take my super then we have to worry about what our house here in Canberra will be worth so we can sell it and own our place in coffs - worry, worry, worry...

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« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2016, 10:27:29 AM »
I worked in IT for nearly 20 years.  I came into the industry in the late 90's when things were still booming and had several job offers straight out of uni.  First job was with QR on big projects.  QR was a weird place to work, with lots of staff and redundancies an everyday occurrence.  We were due to get made redundant after a the big project we were on finished up, but the payout would have been bugger all so we left and went overseas for a working holiday.  We went to America on work visas as they couldn't find enough skilled workers over there.  Lost my job twice in America!  First time due to a lengthy strike (in another part of the business) that almost broke the company, resulting in all the consultants being kicked off.  As a consultant I got no redundancy payout. Second time was after Sept 11 and the tech downturn and our whole team was let go.  Very much "macro" decisions, but you can't take them personally.  I was actually on a customer site and fully billable!  I got 4 weeks severance, which didn't come close to covering my moving costs back to Australia.  Came back to Oz in 2002 and found it hard to find work in Brisbane, so took the first job I could find in Sydney as an entry-level programmer.  Shit job, shift work and not enough money to live in Sydney due to house prices.  That job had already outsourced a part of it's workforce to India and was planning to do more redundancies so I jumped ship before I got the tap on the shoulder.  Found a reasonable job back in Brisbane working on mining and defence software.  In my 7th year there, they offered me redundancy as they were outsourcing all the development and support roles to Malaysia.  I had a wife on maternity leave and a mortgage, so couldn't risk leaving, so I took another role to stay in the company.  Survived a few more years, but the mining boom died off and the company was taken over by an American mob.  Lots more redundancies over a few years and I finally got the tap on the shoulder in my 12th year.  Got nearly 6 months pay in total, which I've been living on for a while now while I go back to uni and reinvent myself. 

I'm doing teaching now, which will hopefully be a job that can't be outsourced to 3rd world countries.  My wife is working again, so we're ok, albeit living pay to pay.  We saved a fair bit of money while overseas (nearly $200k) which we stupidly (in hindsight) put into our dream house.  Turns out that we built near the top of the market and when we had to sell recently, we lost half our nest egg.  On the upside, I've got 25-30 more years of work ahead of me in which to build up some assets.  It seems like everyone else we meet seems to have made easy money in property.  We tried to do the right things and saved heaps and bought into the dream, but our timing has just been a bit off.  Living in Townsville now, and it looks like we picked a winner here again!  Bloody house market has tanked here too.  Might buy a caravan and move to the bush I reckon!

I guess the moral of the story is that for every boom there is a bust.  And there's no point second guessing your decisions, you just gotta work with the cards you're dealt.
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2016, 04:31:15 PM »
2013 1st redundancy. 2014 2nd redundancy, 14 months later get another job 2 days ago after working for 6 months. with out warning all staff was escorted out of workplace and doors locked. Asked about our entitlements and could not or would not answer me.

Sounds like the Administrators have been put in, so they knew for a while that things were going bad,,,,,, :'(   :'(
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« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2016, 09:55:54 AM »
I worked in IT for nearly 20 years.  I came into the industry in the late 90's when things were still booming and had several job offers straight out of uni.  First job was with QR on big projects.  QR was a weird place to work, with lots of staff and redundancies an everyday occurrence.  We were due to get made redundant after a the big project we were on finished up, but the payout would have been bugger all so we left and went overseas for a working holiday.  We went to America on work visas as they couldn't find enough skilled workers over there.  Lost my job twice in America!  First time due to a lengthy strike (in another part of the business) that almost broke the company, resulting in all the consultants being kicked off.  As a consultant I got no redundancy payout. Second time was after Sept 11 and the tech downturn and our whole team was let go.  Very much "macro" decisions, but you can't take them personally.  I was actually on a customer site and fully billable!  I got 4 weeks severance, which didn't come close to covering my moving costs back to Australia.  Came back to Oz in 2002 and found it hard to find work in Brisbane, so took the first job I could find in Sydney as an entry-level programmer.  Shit job, shift work and not enough money to live in Sydney due to house prices.  That job had already outsourced a part of it's workforce to India and was planning to do more redundancies so I jumped ship before I got the tap on the shoulder.  Found a reasonable job back in Brisbane working on mining and defence software.  In my 7th year there, they offered me redundancy as they were outsourcing all the development and support roles to Malaysia.  I had a wife on maternity leave and a mortgage, so couldn't risk leaving, so I took another role to stay in the company.  Survived a few more years, but the mining boom died off and the company was taken over by an American mob.  Lots more redundancies over a few years and I finally got the tap on the shoulder in my 12th year.  Got nearly 6 months pay in total, which I've been living on for a while now while I go back to uni and reinvent myself. 

I'm doing teaching now, which will hopefully be a job that can't be outsourced to 3rd world countries.  My wife is working again, so we're ok, albeit living pay to pay.  We saved a fair bit of money while overseas (nearly $200k) which we stupidly (in hindsight) put into our dream house.  Turns out that we built near the top of the market and when we had to sell recently, we lost half our nest egg.  On the upside, I've got 25-30 more years of work ahead of me in which to build up some assets.  It seems like everyone else we meet seems to have made easy money in property.  We tried to do the right things and saved heaps and bought into the dream, but our timing has just been a bit off.  Living in Townsville now, and it looks like we picked a winner here again!  Bloody house market has tanked here too.  Might buy a caravan and move to the bush I reckon!

I guess the moral of the story is that for every boom there is a bust.  And there's no point second guessing your decisions, you just gotta work with the cards you're dealt.

very similar work history here - thought being a self-employed 'consultant' was the way to go but all that glitters is not gold and have learned its not good to become comfortable in a cushy contract the hard way. was married to a teacher some years back, don't think I could put up with the routine and while my step-grandson appears to have been smart enough to switch from I.T. to teaching at Armidale uni its probably getting too late for me

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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2016, 02:58:45 PM »
Wow...Made it through round 2.......Not a nice way to spend a day at work   :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2016, 06:54:47 PM »
My other half was made redundant from a job she loved doing (but worked long hours and was on call), about a year ago, no warning, told on a Monday that she would finish on Friday. Devastating at the time. Took 5 months to get another job. In her time off we went camping a bit more, went to Hawaii, had a great time. New job, although it doesn't pay anywhere near as much, is great, she loves it. Because it pays less and she is way over qualified for it she pretty much works the hours she wants (within reason of course), and her boss is happy with this as he does not want to loose her. She now has work / life balance, and is much happier and healthier as a result.

At the time it was hard to take, I work there too, so I had to continue to work with the people that made her redundant. But in hindsight, it was probably the best thing that happened to her.

We were fortunate that her payout was good, and that our personal situation meant we could afford for her to have the time off she did until the ideal job appeared. But I do feel for those whose situation is different and people / families are facing the prospect of long term unemployment.
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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #89 on: June 22, 2016, 03:58:16 AM »
    Hey mate, how's the job going?

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   Well mate...since i started this job 3 or so years ago where the numbers of people working here was aprox. 70 or so is now down to about 25.....i survived all the redundancies ...but now because of a medical condition i found it necessary to resign yesterday...being a glazier i have struggled the last 2 months to do my work without doing it safely and without pain...i now suffer with psoriatic arthritis....but at least now i can choose what i do without the obligation of fulfilling my work duties to an acceptable standard.  So now a new chapter in my life begins.....We will see how it pans out ...Looks like the camper trailer get a bit more of a work out cause wifey works 3 x 12 hr shifts in intensive care at the hospital she gets a nice run of days off in a row which means we can haunt the camping spots only an hour or to from home to have 3-4 days camping...which sounds ok to me.....  Lets see what the future holds.
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« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2016, 06:24:14 AM »
   Well mate...since i started this job 3 or so years ago where the numbers of people working here was aprox. 70 or so is now down to about 25.....i survived all the redundancies ...but now because of a medical condition i found it necessary to resign yesterday...being a glazier i have struggled the last 2 months to do my work without doing it safely and without pain...i now suffer with psoriatic arthritis....but at least now i can choose what i do without the obligation of fulfilling my work duties to an acceptable standard.  So now a new chapter in my life begins.....We will see how it pans out ...Looks like the camper trailer get a bit more of a work out cause wifey works 3 x 12 hr shifts in intensive care at the hospital she gets a nice run of days off in a row which means we can haunt the camping spots only an hour or to from home to have 3-4 days camping...which sounds ok to me.....  Lets see what the future holds.
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« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2016, 06:22:33 PM »
   Well mate...since i started this job 3 or so years ago where the numbers of people working here was aprox. 70 or so is now down to about 25.....i survived all the redundancies ...but now because of a medical condition i found it necessary to resign yesterday...being a glazier i have struggled the last 2 months to do my work without doing it safely and without pain...i now suffer with psoriatic arthritis....but at least now i can choose what i do without the obligation of fulfilling my work duties to an acceptable standard.  So now a new chapter in my life begins.....We will see how it pans out ...Looks like the camper trailer get a bit more of a work out cause wifey works 3 x 12 hr shifts in intensive care at the hospital she gets a nice run of days off in a row which means we can haunt the camping spots only an hour or to from home to have 3-4 days camping...which sounds ok to me.....  Lets see what the future holds.
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another cheers to you tracker, I hope you both enjoy it - three days on four days off would suit me too. not ready to retire early yet, got a few things to pay down and reserves to build up but it may come sooner than I want - either way I don't see us being in this place beyond two years