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Re: Redundancies.....>>> Survivor..So far
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2015, 08:18:44 PM »
just a heads up to those looking for work. Try labour hire companies. I sent off hundreds of resumes and went through a few interviews unsuccessfully. i never tried labour hire as i thought it would only lead to one or two days here and there.
i signed up with three labour hire mobs and a week later i had two short term jobs. i chose one of them and have been with them for 13 months now.

basically the company i work for use labour hire because there not required no give a minimum trial period and can get rid of people that are no good straight away instead of having to wait 4 weeks etc.

 

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« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2015, 08:20:31 PM »
It was through somebody he knew

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« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2015, 08:31:05 PM »
There was a book put out years ago called "Change you job, change your life" or something like that during all the management layofs.

The principle was not look for a job that you have been doing, but look at a different career path.

My son is in the same situation at the moment where they are calling for a number of voluntary redundencies...

I doubt it is going to get any better in the near future...


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« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2015, 08:49:20 PM »
There was a book put out years ago called "Change you job, change your life" or something like that during all the management layofs.

The principle was not look for a job that you have been doing, but look at a different career path.

My son is in the same situation at the moment where they are calling for a number of voluntary redundencies...

I doubt it is going to get any better in the near future...

My wife is doing that now. 20 yrs in the print industry, at the same place, 2 days before we left for cape job finished, and now is looking for something outside of that industry. Already has scored what appears to be a good opportunity.
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« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2015, 09:36:59 PM »
Not easy to deal with, it's easy to say, but it's important to remember it's not personal.

I feel for anyone in the situation.

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« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2015, 11:10:49 PM »
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Just to put some balance to the argument, it's not always about 'businesses' screwing people over when times are tough.

I work in a medium sized Australian owned company and its tough doing business at the moment for many reasons.  We take whatever opportunities we can to reduce our running costs and keep competitive, but there is no denying the fact the labour costs, for us, are a large component of our direct and indirect costs.

When our industry is booming staff demand to be paid well, because they can otherwise they walk.  Unfortunately when times are tough some people still demand high levels of renumeration just because they think they are entitled.  Unless people are willing to acknowledge the state our current economy is in and accept that being employed in some capacity is better than being unemployed, then people need to come to terms with pay cuts, reduced hours, part time or casual work.  If employees aren't interested in these alternatives then what avenues are businesses left with? Keep running at losses until the business folds altogether?

In my experience it's neither a cheap excercise or a very pleasant experience making people redundant.  Ideally it should be the last option, however in my experience too many employees are not willing to negotiate from their current employment terms and aren't seemingly unaware of the current economic situation we are all struggling with - both as employers and as employees.

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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2015, 11:38:52 PM »
All this talk of redundancies makes me feel ill...especially knowing that some of the useless dimwits  that work near me keep on keeping on, yet good people can't get another go in the job market.

If you are one of the good ones (all swaggers I expect) keep networking, keep reinventing yourself, keep confident and hopefully something will come your way soon.

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« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2015, 07:17:52 PM »
I have been out of work for two months, applied for 36 jobs and only had one interview so far.
That interview ended when he siad I was over qualified and would probably leave for greener pastures when they came along.

I am an engineer, with three management degrees, cert IV in training and have worked in most countries in the world as a consultant.

But Im apparently too old (57) they are looking for long term employees
I ask you what job now days is guaranteed to be longer than 10 years.

The market out there is very hard thanks to the idiots running or is that ruining our country, allowing cheap Shit to imported free while we pay to export to the same country.

I even went to Bunnings, but was told that I had no retail experience.
So Im overqualified for a real job and under qualified for a Bunnings job.........Go figure


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« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2015, 07:57:04 PM »
So the world tells you your too Good  , adapt , overcome . Dumb Down .   The 1/2 wit that has been given the job , over their pay scale of interviewing you is Sh1t Scared  . Somebody is going to push them out of there Cossie job  . Only apply the bare minimum of equalisations to get the gig   , then cream them .                                   :cup:                                         :cheers:
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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2015, 08:14:39 PM »
I have been out of work for two months, applied for 36 jobs and only had one interview so far.
That interview ended when he siad I was over qualified and would probably leave for greener pastures when they came along.

I am an engineer, with three management degrees, cert IV in training and have worked in most countries in the world as a consultant.

But Im apparently too old (57) they are looking for long term employees
I ask you what job now days is guaranteed to be longer than 10 years.

The market out there is very hard thanks to the idiots running or is that ruining our country, allowing cheap Shit to imported free while we pay to export to the same country.

I even went to Bunnings, but was told that I had no retail experience.
So Im overqualified for a real job and under qualified for a Bunnings job.........Go figure

My wife who has no retail experience at all has a job interview at Bunnings on Tuesday.
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« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2015, 12:17:30 AM »
Well theres ya problem Stabi, A bit of lippy, a  dash of powder puff and a tight sweater,short skirt,  bat the baby blues with a nice smile and you could of had a better chance .
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« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2015, 04:14:26 AM »
Well theres ya problem Stabi, A bit of lippy, a  dash of powder puff and a tight sweater,short skirt,  bat the baby blues with a nice smile and you could of had a better chance .

great, a 57 year old bloke with a pair big hairy drumsticks poking out of a short skirt.  :o
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« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2015, 06:38:21 AM »
Thanks Jeepers  l need therapy now ,,,,,,,,,, got the horribly mental pic  :o :o >:D
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« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2015, 08:23:42 AM »
There was a book put out years ago called "Change you job, change your life" or something like that during all the management layofs.

The principle was not look for a job that you have been doing, but look at a different career path.

My son is in the same situation at the moment where they are calling for a number of voluntary redundencies...

I doubt it is going to get any better in the near future...

Change is good. I went from brick laying to working in a bank to now driving trains. I never foresaw any of those jobs coming.

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« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2015, 08:27:13 AM »
My wife who has no retail experience at all has a job interview at Bunnings on Tuesday.
I presume that means if/when she gets the job we all get "mates rates".  ;D
Good luck with the interview BTW.

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« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2015, 09:54:17 AM »
Thanks Jeepers  l need therapy now ,,,,,,,,,, got the horribly mental pic  :o :o >:D
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« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2015, 04:10:48 PM »
I feel for anyone going through redundancy that doesn't want to go... And have been in roles where I've had to decide and hand over the folder.
Hardest thing i have ever had to do... So many conflicting influences. I try to give it to people that want to go.


I want to go.. To get paid out...throw both arms up when the opportunities arise. Cant get it because they say i'm too good at what i do.. Then sit back and watch people who wouldn't work in an iron lung getting big payouts.
Maybe i'm the idiot.... Or just too proud.



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« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2015, 05:26:41 PM »
hey all, been in the coal mines since I was 17 now 47 , I have been retrenched 6 times the boom/bust
goes in 7 to 10 yr stints , I have had a $48k pay cut since Xmas and have been lucky as half the work force at my underground mine have lost there jobs now the mining company's  ( all of them ) have taken there workers to fair work to limit the retrenchment payout that they have work for .
they are trying to limit to 9yrs I now men that have been at the same mine for 30 yrs now how the hell is that fAIR? so much for the lucky country.

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« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2015, 05:31:52 PM »
Looks like the only safe job is in politics, Poly as in bird brained and tics as in blood sucking parasite.

They do nothing worthwhile, and get overpaid for their qualifications.,
They stuff up the country just so they get bribes and pay offs and then retire on a retirement package that any of us would work had for.

A pox on them all.

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« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2015, 05:34:42 PM »
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« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2015, 06:39:15 PM »
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« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2015, 08:48:05 PM »
how the hell is that fAIR? so much for the lucky country.

Since when has fair ever had anything to do with the law??
More money and influence means more equality before the law.
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« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2015, 09:42:42 AM »
I always look at what is happening in the USA. The trends always hit Australia 10 years later.

Australian workers (people in general) used have strong ties towards one another, always looking after each others back.

There has been a big shift against that thanks to the the ultra greedy..................divide and conquer always works. Everyone for themselves is how they want it.

I too was caught up in keeping up with the Joneses until a few years ago. I have a plan to keep things a lot more simple and keep more dollars in my pocket.
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« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2015, 07:49:29 PM »

they are trying to limit to 9yrs I now men that have been at the same mine for 30 yrs now how the hell is that fAIR? so much for the lucky country.

Been in for 40 yrs, but you wonder why coal miners are in a union....the multi national companies try every trick in the book to undermine safety and conditions, then cry poor when they can't get their own way.
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« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2015, 07:21:53 AM »
Been in for 40 yrs, but you wonder why coal miners are in a union....the multi national companies try every trick in the book to undermine safety and conditions, then cry poor when they can't get their own way.

Couldn't agree more....