Anyone know where I can get the triton de-carboned

[Andreweasty90]

Long storey short drive the other day had my first engine light in the trusty triton come on went and got it checked and the egr and inlet is all sooted up now, asked the dealership how much to clean it and they said it's easier to replace but at $2000 I said no thanks did a google/YouTube search found a few good ways they clean them with a special injector but they all appear to be down in Sydney and I'm in Brisbane don't really wanna drive that far with it like that and freighting it down would cost more then replacement anyone know of any brisbane to sunny coast places that do it? 


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[champin]

Check out newtriton.net they got all the info you need for the trusty triton.

[dazzler]

And add your location as well.  Some of us will help out if you live nearby.   

[jwb]

My son recently had a quote for getting the manifold cleaned+EGR blank fitted to his recently purchased triton.
It was $660.
Nothing wrong as yet but I suggested he gets this done ASAP
This was from a workshop in Moss st Slacks Creek
Cheers

[4wd26]

As a hobbie I have a set of mn and ml manifolds that I chemically clean and on an exchange basis sell the cleaned items, can even provide gaskets




I'm in Brisbane

[Andreweasty90]

Cheers jwb I will have a look around there next time I'm down that way. I have thought about getting a blanking plate but the whole illegal thing and how if they are not done right you get an engine light I might just go down the catch can route for the blow by


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[Andreweasty90]

4wd26. Thanks but I'm not that great with pulling engines apart that far I ll just go to a mechanic


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[aussieducker]

Still work out cheaper I reckon if you purchase 4w26 manifold and have your mechanic change it over. Im presuming here its an exchange type arrangement with 4w26. 

[Green rv]

try threebond engine conditioner ( or as i call it carbon blast)
works a treat
DIY for under $25.00
 
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[Andreweasty90]

From the guys I saw on YouTube (MRT and someone Thornton performance they hook up a injector style machine to the throttle body and it sprays a solution in on pulses and cleans it's out and they show before a and afters and it's clean probably not 100% like changeling it out bit for 700 and two hours seems like a better option and the engine light has cleared itself now


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[4wd26]

where does all that carbon end up 

just something to think about spraying anything into the "inlet manifold"


might be something to use as a preventative maintenance measure from new 

[Green rv]

where does all that carbon end up 

just something to think about spraying anything into the "inlet manifold"


might be something to use as a preventative maintenance measure from new 

straight out the exhaust system
does not contaminate any other part of the engine
the only thing i would be sus on is if the car has a DPF but again it should be fine as it would be burnt off in its next cycle
i use it in my hilux as a preventative measure . saying that the hilux isn't renowned for carbon build up. but the difference it makes WOW

 
Adam

[4wd26]

straight out the exhaust system

are you sure......

the carbon comes from being introduced into the inlet manifold through the exhaust gas recirculation system so that noxious stuff can again go through the combustion process

so if you dislodge particles where does it end up- even if you clean built up gunk from the past 60,000kms 

[prodigyrf]

So the Dealer answer is $2k for a new manifold. Can I ask what age and kms your Triton's done?

[Footy Shorts Shane]

From the guys I saw on YouTube (MRT and someone Thornton performance they hook up a injector style machine to the throttle body and it sprays a solution in on pulses and cleans it's out and they show before a and afters and it's clean probably not 100% like changeling it out bit for 700 and two hours seems like a better option and the engine light has cleared itself now


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You've mentioned engine repairs aren't your thing, so I'll use almost 30 years of engine building experience to explain it, simply 

Consider that intake manifold as your ear. In your entire lifetime, your ear has never been cleaned of any build up. It's full of waxy, greasy, gritty, oily, crunchy crud. Heaps of it. So you go to the Doc, he cuts your ear off, sends it to 4wd26 who then starts the cleaning process.
Depending on the ear crud you have accumulated over the years, no doubt this process starts with a scraper, digging out the loose build up. Then of to a cleaning solution to dissolve the bulk of the crud. Quick smash with a pressure cleaner then off to a bead blaster for an entire clean back to bare skin.
After a blast, your ear will be inspected for any other damage, checked for straightness, a final wash and sent back to the Doc. (I'm only assuming this is what he does  )

So the Doc then stitches your ear back on and your as good as gold for another many more years. Happy days 

Or, you could go to the markets, visit someone in a marquee. He sits you down, connects a can of cleaner up to your ear, and slowly injects it down, to wash all that crud.......... Out through your nose!
Now you know this isn't going to work well, you know it's going to hurt everything between your ear and your nose, but hey, it's cheaper.
So your eyes water, your throat hurts and you can taste that abrasive cleaner and crud combination. You think 'how can I taste this stuff? It went in my ear.......'

Same thing happens in your engine. It goes everywhere!
Your valves, seats, rings, guides, bore, oil, bearings etc, will hate your guts for doing this to it. It goes everywhere through your engines respiratory and cardiac systems. It's hurting it.

All that carbon and oily crud is a byproduct of combustion. It didn't burn the first time, it won't burn again. Your engine 'passed it' like a bad stone, don't make it pass it again, it's painfull.

My suggestion is to remove your engines ear, get its wax cleaned out, refit the ear and do away with the EGR, so it doesn't have ear wax issues again. I'm a non believer of ear cleaner in a can.

Shane.

[Green rv]

are you sure......

the carbon comes from being introduced into the inlet manifold through the exhaust gas recirculation system so that noxious stuff can again go through the combustion process

so if you dislodge particles where does it end up- even if you clean built up gunk from the past 60,000kms 

i wouldn't be to worried about the egr side of things as only about 10% of the gases are recycled

i do love this product and give it a big thumbs ups
if you want to do the test and post you unbiased thoughts and pics here i would be glad to send some out to you.
would be good if you have a inspection scope to show/see the difference

 
Adam

[jetcrew]

You've mentioned engine repairs aren't your thing, so I'll use almost 30 years of engine building experience to explain it, simply 

Consider that intake manifold as your ear. In your entire lifetime, your ear has never been cleaned of any build up. It's full of waxy, greasy, gritty, oily, crunchy crud. Heaps of it. So you go to the Doc, he cuts your ear off, sends it to 4wd26 who then starts the cleaning process.
Depending on the ear crud you have accumulated over the years, no doubt this process starts with a scraper, digging out the loose build up. Then of to a cleaning solution to dissolve the bulk of the crud. Quick smash with a pressure cleaner then off to a bead blaster for an entire clean back to bare skin.
After a blast, your ear will be inspected for any other damage, checked for straightness, a final wash and sent back to the Doc. (I'm only assuming this is what he does  )

So the Doc then stitches your ear back on and your as good as gold for another many more years. Happy days 

Or, you could go to the markets, visit someone in a marquee. He sits you down, connects a can of cleaner up to your ear, and slowly injects it down, to wash all that crud.......... Out through your nose!
Now you know this isn't going to work well, you know it's going to hurt everything between your ear and your nose, but hey, it's cheaper.
So your eyes water, your throat hurts and you can taste that abrasive cleaner and crud combination. You think 'how can I taste this stuff? It went in my ear.......'

Same thing happens in your engine. It goes everywhere!
Your valves, seats, rings, guides, bore, oil, bearings etc, will hate your guts for doing this to it. It goes everywhere through your engines respiratory and cardiac systems. It's hurting it.

All that carbon and oily crud is a byproduct of combustion. It didn't burn the first time, it won't burn again. Your engine 'passed it' like a bad stone, don't make it pass it again, it's painfull.

My suggestion is to remove your engines ear, get its wax cleaned out, refit the ear and do away with the EGR, so it doesn't have ear wax issues again. I'm a non believer of ear cleaner in a can.

Shane.

WELL SAID MY MAN 

Only thing i'll add is that Misitsi did heaps and heaps of these under warranty mine inc and you can bet if a can of spray could have fixed they would have found a way... as it cost them some $$$ to them all under warranty and removed them all and cleaned or replaced them ..

Jet

[jetcrew]

WELL SAID MY MAN 

Only thing i'll add is that Misitsi did heaps and heaps of these under warranty mine inc and you can bet if a can of spray could have fixed they would have found a way... as it cost them some $$$ to them all under warranty and removed them all and cleaned or replaced them ..

Id be taking 4WD26 up on his offer and simply pay a mech to do the swap.

Jet

[Andreweasty90]

The triton has done 130,000klms and from what I have seen of the few online demos of this stuff is only about a year or so old and it's not in a can really they have to take off the throttle body and egr valve and then it's a pressure thing kinda looks like oversized grease gun with a pressure gauge and then they add this cleaning fluid and it burns out the exhaust in a few minutes it will start pumping out smoke from idle I ll see if I can find the YouTube link 


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[Andreweasty90]

Found the link https://youtu.be/xeGbiB6hYXU


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[Green rv]

Yep concur
well put Shane 

the treebond guys reckon it only goes through the top end 
from what i'm lead to believe threebond made this originally for subaru for the boxer engine
also that it is in the subaru service schedule every 16000k true untrue i don't know

 
Adam

[Bookleaf]

A question about this cleaning that I have been pondering over for some time, if I may.
We take off the manifold and clean it, but surely the head inlet ports are also gunked up.
It seems to me that this part never gets cleaned, but surely it to is restricting airflow.
Why does the inlet ports not get cleaned also?
Is it that it is just too hard to get to the ports?

[Spada]

You've mentioned engine repairs aren't your thing, so I'll use almost 30 years of engine building experience to explain it, simply 

Consider that intake manifold as your ear. In your entire lifetime, your ear has never been cleaned of any build up. It's full of waxy, greasy, gritty, oily, crunchy crud. Heaps of it. So you go to the Doc, he cuts your ear off, sends it to 4wd26 who then starts the cleaning process.
Depending on the ear crud you have accumulated over the years, no doubt this process starts with a scraper, digging out the loose build up. Then of to a cleaning solution to dissolve the bulk of the crud. Quick smash with a pressure cleaner then off to a bead blaster for an entire clean back to bare skin.
After a blast, your ear will be inspected for any other damage, checked for straightness, a final wash and sent back to the Doc. (I'm only assuming this is what he does  )

So the Doc then stitches your ear back on and your as good as gold for another many more years. Happy days 

Or, you could go to the markets, visit someone in a marquee. He sits you down, connects a can of cleaner up to your ear, and slowly injects it down, to wash all that crud.......... Out through your nose!
Now you know this isn't going to work well, you know it's going to hurt everything between your ear and your nose, but hey, it's cheaper.
So your eyes water, your throat hurts and you can taste that abrasive cleaner and crud combination. You think 'how can I taste this stuff? It went in my ear.......'

Same thing happens in your engine. It goes everywhere!
Your valves, seats, rings, guides, bore, oil, bearings etc, will hate your guts for doing this to it. It goes everywhere through your engines respiratory and cardiac systems. It's hurting it.

All that carbon and oily crud is a byproduct of combustion. It didn't burn the first time, it won't burn again. Your engine 'passed it' like a bad stone, don't make it pass it again, it's painfull.

My suggestion is to remove your engines ear, get its wax cleaned out, refit the ear and do away with the EGR, so it doesn't have ear wax issues again. I'm a non believer of ear cleaner in a can.

Shane.

Thanks Shane, when you put it like that, makes it easy for us "non-mechanical" type understand 

[discoteddy]

You've mentioned engine repairs aren't your thing, so I'll use almost 30 years of engine building experience to explain it, simply 

Consider that intake manifold as your ear. In your entire lifetime, your ear has never been cleaned of any build up. It's full of waxy, greasy, gritty, oily, crunchy crud. Heaps of it. So you go to the Doc, he cuts your ear off, sends it to 4wd26 who then starts the cleaning process.
Depending on the ear crud you have accumulated over the years, no doubt this process starts with a scraper, digging out the loose build up. Then of to a cleaning solution to dissolve the bulk of the crud. Quick smash with a pressure cleaner then off to a bead blaster for an entire clean back to bare skin.
After a blast, your ear will be inspected for any other damage, checked for straightness, a final wash and sent back to the Doc. (I'm only assuming this is what he does  )

So the Doc then stitches your ear back on and your as good as gold for another many more years. Happy days 

Or, you could go to the markets, visit someone in a marquee. He sits you down, connects a can of cleaner up to your ear, and slowly injects it down, to wash all that crud.......... Out through your nose!
Now you know this isn't going to work well, you know it's going to hurt everything between your ear and your nose, but hey, it's cheaper.
So your eyes water, your throat hurts and you can taste that abrasive cleaner and crud combination. You think 'how can I taste this stuff? It went in my ear.......'

Same thing happens in your engine. It goes everywhere!
Your valves, seats, rings, guides, bore, oil, bearings etc, will hate your guts for doing this to it. It goes everywhere through your engines respiratory and cardiac systems. It's hurting it.

All that carbon and oily crud is a byproduct of combustion. It didn't burn the first time, it won't burn again. Your engine 'passed it' like a bad stone, don't make it pass it again, it's painfull.

My suggestion is to remove your engines ear, get its wax cleaned out, refit the ear and do away with the EGR, so it doesn't have ear wax issues again. I'm a non believer of ear cleaner in a can.

Shane.

 

Shane post of the decade, even my wife enjoyed your explanation!


Cheers,

Disco teddy.

[prodigyrf]

Well just to confuse us all here's one tech's experience with a particular system and BG products and he's adamant they work unlike the claims of many-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ABTo42tKA

and it seems there are similar DIY DPF cleaning systems too like liquimoly-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=020MdntTw34
although that liquimoly kit is over $500 on ebay I noticed and clearly that BG tool for a one off wouldn't be economical but you might like to see if there's a shop around using it. 'Id have to say the use of such systems and products can't be environmentally sound and when you see what California EPA requirements are for cleaning DPFs and proper collection and waste disposal the figures really skyrocket and would only make sense for trucks, etc.

The only question on my mind with that BG cleaner is whether it can tackle really bad clogging at 130000kms or is only useful if it's done at certain intervals say every 50000kms. Still he seems pretty rapt in its effectiveness but it's a very specific delivery system.