New Navara Launched

[99disco]

Yep about time you could buy a ute other than a patrol with coil rear end. Not everyone want/needs to carry a tonne.




Shane

[cyberess]

SsangYong Actyon utes also have coil rear suspension

 

[Bird]

SsangYong Actyon utes also have coil rear suspension

yes but you have to look at it before getting in it... something most humans could never do.

[scarpsD40]

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/first-drive-car-review/ironman-4x4-2015-nissan-np300-navara-vl-review/

[chisel]

Thanks.  Great review.  Wonder what it is like in 100% stock form ... and on the beach...

[Johnnos3003]

Yep about time you could buy a ute other than a patrol with coil rear end. Not everyone want/needs to carry a tonne.




Shane

Not sure about the aust model but the overseas model retained the full 1 ton payload according to a review I read.
 

[gordo350]

Sat in one at agfest on the weekend.  Very disappointed.  My knees were hitting the steering wheel just like the D22. Just like the old one there is not enough room for a standard size aussie. (6'4" & 125 kilos)

[scarpsD40]

Sat in one at agfest on the weekend.  Very disappointed.  My knees were hitting the steering wheel just like the D22. Just like the old one there is not enough room for a standard size aussie. (6'4" & 125 kilos)

lol......maybe the upper limits of standard size aussie......here's yours;D

[gordo350]

Yes please. Do you have it in a king cab?

[Redback]

Yep about time you could buy a ute other than a patrol with coil rear end. Not everyone want/needs to carry a tonne.




Shane

Defenders have coils and can carry over 1 tonne, actually they have had coils since 1983, singlecab doublecab and wagon versions, it's a myth you need leaf springs for heavy loads.

[Bird]

Defenders have coils and can carry over 1 tonne, actually they have had coils since 1983...

infact has the same cab, poor quality riveted finish and most things since 1983

[loanrangie]

infact has the same cab, poor quality riveted finish and most things since 1983

True, but the Range Rover has had coils alround since 1970.

[jeeps]

It's got a DPF filter...

[dirtpilot]

I have a Patrol ute with coils rear end. Carries a ton no problem. Changing over springs to suit load is quick and easy.

[prodigyrf]

It's got a DPF filter...

End of story. Next!

[prodigyrf]

Personally I wouldn't touch a DPF diesel with a barge pole but in any case the days of the recreational diesel are numbered if developments in the trucking industry are anything to go by-
http://www.truckinginfo.com/article/story/2015/01/diesel-particulate-filters-blessing-and-curse.aspx

Note in particular those comments from truckers what's mandated already in California-

"A new retrofit DPF costs between $15,000 and $20,000 or more depending on data logging and application.The filter element may cost between $5000 and $7500.00 and in California exchange is not permitted except in very rare cases."

"the EPA mandates that the DPF registered to the vehicle MUST remain with the vehicle for life. No exchanges, except for totally failed units. Application must be made to the EPA here in CA for DPF Serial Number changes."

Yes Californians are right up the EU's backside when it comes to Green regs and mandatory controls like this and we lag behind, but what's got the trucking industry here worried is what new equipment do you buy when they're all coming out with DPFs for the world market, just like the new diesel SUVs and 4WDs we're seeing. Furthermore how soon will our Regs rubber stamp those OS ones so don't go losing/exchanging your DPF when it's numbers match your vehicle only.

It's OK for the trucking industry to wear all that and pass the costs on to everything we buy but I'm not remotely interested in that can of worms for domestic diesels anymore. Diesels are yesterdays.

[UIZ733]

Some interesting and constructive comments and responses to the post. One respondent stands out however. He  has little interesting to add  except sarcasm and cynicism. Good posts or potentially good posts should not be hijacked by personal prejudice in my opinion.
Happy to be flamed if I am wrong.

[gordo350]

Must agree sadly.  I just skim past those posts

[Elky]

I have noticed that generally for every new 4wd released on the market there is always overwhelming disappointment.....

When the 100 series came out the change to five studs was an outrage
When the 200 came out it was too ugly and burned oil faster than the Middle East could dig it out
When the first of the d4d luxes came out they were ugly ditto the triton
When the pootrol ditched live axles the 4wd forums nearly exploded and so on...

The car makers are not stupid, they build to a proven formula that will see majority of sales to the average punter, not the 5% of us here on this forum, it is upto us to modify our trucks to suit ourselves after all isn't that half the fun?

I like the new navara, hopefully Nissan might challenge Toyota too, they have had the market sewn up for way too long!

Cheers

[scarpsD40]

https://www.facebook.com/nissannavaraaus/videos/922274631145167/

[rossmob]

Looks like a DMAX.


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[Diesel Power]

If anyone gets a closer look to these Navaras have a look at the lower control arm locating the rear diff.
It's pressed steel with a flat bar to cap it off, the the ABS line runs along the lower control arm but spaced out about 40 mm front the arm, not really suitable for off-road.
Regards
Angus.

[prodigyrf]

Some interesting and constructive comments and responses to the post. One respondent stands out however. He  has little interesting to add  except sarcasm and cynicism. Good posts or potentially good posts should not be hijacked by personal prejudice in my opinion.
Happy to be flamed if I am wrong.

Fair cop although I'm now aware when you walk into a showroom looking at diesel vehicles the sales staff aren't exactly gushing to show you the DPF, explain why it's there and the ins and outs of how it works or may not depending on your particular useage.

Statistics show the average passenger vehicle does 80% of its mileage in urban environments so potential purchasers need to be aware that modern emission controlled diesels are not often an ideal choice, particularly in manual form vis a vis CVT. In that regard I applaud the honesty of Subaru in spelling out the issues clearly for their potential customers, albeit on their website-
http://www.subaru.com.au/car-advice/benefits-of-a-diesel-engine
I would like to think Nissan, etc and their sales staff would do the same so you can all make an educated choice. I'm mostly urban so I'll pass.

[Bird]

True, but the Range Rover has had coils alround since 1970.

... and the worlds worst depreciation since 1970..