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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2015, 08:44:41 AM »
There have been several deaths as a result of using three way fridges on gas in both cars and homes.

Some people are literally terminally stupid. But it is a very, very high price to pay for using a fridge wrongly, or a gas camping stove, or a gas bottle without the proper fittings!

I bought two gas fuses for my bottles at Bunnings. $29 each, IIRC. One each for fridge and stove.
Bloody cheap insurance, and they tell you how full the bottle is as an extra bonus.
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2015, 09:05:08 AM »
Here's the same bloke, only 2 years ago, stating they DO meet the standards.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/lunchbox-cookers-spark-a-warning-in-nsw/story-e6frea7l-1226560896521

So do they or don't they? Or did they and now they don't.

I was speaking to someone who works at Anaconda yesterday and he said there's a fair chance they'll be back on the shelves soon after some rewording and safety instructions altered.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2015, 09:20:00 AM »
was just in at the local ray's outdoors and they said that for their stores, it was a voluntary removal from sale of all cookers (of that style) for the foreseeable future.

no plans to stop selling canisters... (their wild country branded canisters are CRV confirmed)
« Last Edit: March 06, 2015, 09:23:36 AM by paceman »
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #103 on: March 06, 2015, 04:14:12 PM »
Just for the doubters of the dangers of these cookers, the most recent accident resulting in a death
http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/man-badly-burnt-in-van-fire-casino-man-critical-af/2531129/

and the follow up story
http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/ban-on-sale-of-butane-cookers/2565214/
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #104 on: March 06, 2015, 05:01:54 PM »
Quote from: rags on March 06, 2015, 04:14:12 PM
Just for the doubters of the dangers of these cookers, the most recent accident resulting in a death
http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/man-badly-burnt-in-van-fire-casino-man-critical-af/2531129/

and the follow up story
http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/ban-on-sale-of-butane-cookers/2565214/


It is a terrible thing to happen but the report does not say that the device had a warning on it to NOT use it in a caravan.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #105 on: March 08, 2015, 09:33:13 AM »
Interesting read in the Dept of Fair Trading site

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Consumers/Product_and_service_safety/Lunchbox_cookers.page

"What is the background to this issue?
Fair Trading has been concerned about the safety of these appliances due to several incidents of explosions resulting in injury. However it appeared that misuse rather than non-compliance with the Australian Standards contributed to these explosions. In 2014, in light of these incidents, state regulators including Fair Trading worked with two of the gas Certifying Bodies to re-test these cookers. These tests found the appliances to be non-compliant to the Australian Standards. This resulted in the Certifying Bodies suspending the approval certifications in February 2015."

So thanks to the numpties once again.   

Hopefully someone can review these complaints and redo the cookers so they meet the standard again
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2015, 10:34:32 AM »
They will outlaw the sun soon because some dork didn't wear spf30 and got sunburned
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #107 on: March 08, 2015, 11:19:02 AM »
Some people in NSW misuse alcohol so all alcohol sales to campers should be halted!

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Sorry I don't have an appropriate picture.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #108 on: March 08, 2015, 11:52:14 AM »
My only concern now is Caravan parks and Camp grounds banning the use of these.  I've owned mine for 10 or so years and hope to continue.  You can't protect stupid people from everything!  They better hurry up with a replacement or a fix for these. 
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #109 on: March 08, 2015, 12:43:51 PM »
Relax everybody as I got an email from one of those shop once and friends for life onliners that you can easily replace your killer cooker-
http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/p_403547_Kitchen_Leader_MultiPurpose_Portable_Induction_Cooker_Chef_Cooktop__Touch_Control

With the odd accessory naturally  ;D
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #110 on: March 08, 2015, 12:53:17 PM »
Quote from: koshari on March 05, 2015, 09:41:44 AM
Looks like we need a new sticky titled "how many people read the stickies "
I want to do a poll:
"how ambivalent are you to polls"
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2015, 01:00:16 PM »
Quote from: Topender on March 08, 2015, 11:52:14 AM
My only concern now is Caravan parks and Camp grounds banning the use of these.  I've owned mine for 10 or so years and hope to continue.  You can't protect stupid people from everything!  They better hurry up with a replacement or a fix for these.


Apparently that sort of ban would be fantastic  :-*

http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=40377.msg663348#msg663348

although fortunately we social pariahs have a handy replacement to assauge such concerns  :cup:

http://sociallites.com.au/
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2015, 08:37:42 AM »
Interesting response from Coleman...

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2015, 10:19:59 AM »

Quote from: rags on March 06, 2015, 04:14:12 PM
Just for the doubters of the dangers of these cookers, the most recent accident resulting in a death
http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/man-badly-burnt-in-van-fire-casino-man-critical-af/2531129/

and the follow up story
http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/ban-on-sale-of-butane-cookers/2565214/


I would extend this to any gas cylinder (eg 9kg) inside a caravan or annex........
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #114 on: March 09, 2015, 10:42:21 AM »
Quote from: prodigyrf on March 08, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
Relax everybody as I got an email from one of those shop once and friends for life onliners that you can easily replace your killer cooker-
http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/p_403547_Kitchen_Leader_MultiPurpose_Portable_Induction_Cooker_Chef_Cooktop__Touch_Control

With the odd accessory naturally  ;D


Induction cooktop eh ??.....that would be handy running that off an inverter while camping ??   You'd only need 166 amps !!   :'(
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2015, 08:58:52 PM »
Yeah gronk I assume they have a very nice line of generators to help us all with the changeover.

I see from the NSW bedwetter site they define the killer cooker thus-

"What is a lunchbox cooker?
A portable butane cooker (aka lunchbox cooker or portable gas barbeque) is a single burner metal cooker designed to be used with small butane canisters. The cookers are commonly used for camping and caravanning. They are usually a single burner cooker and sold with a plastic case for portability."

Great! I'm all sweet then-
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #116 on: March 09, 2015, 09:42:46 PM »
Quote from: sweetpea on March 08, 2015, 11:19:02 AM
Some people in NSW misuse alcohol so all alcohol sales to campers should be halted!

 :worthles:

Sorry I don't have an appropriate picture.

S


Got some bad zen for those convict nanny-staters complete with [in]appropriate pictures-

http://zenstoves.net/Stoves.htm

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/65331-Made-an-alcohol-stove-tonight-hints

http://www.instructables.com/id/Alcohol-Can-penny-stove/

Net's full of them. Butane killer stoves? Yeah riiiiiight!
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #120 on: March 10, 2015, 12:46:59 PM »
Just think how many stoves most of us could make to replace these butane ones using the 1 beer can method.  Now I've just got to switch from stubbies to cans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8t3pivqtk
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #121 on: March 10, 2015, 05:08:53 PM »
Quote from: tk421 on March 10, 2015, 12:46:59 PM
Just think how many stoves most of us could make to replace these butane ones using the 1 beer can method.  Now I've just got to switch from stubbies to cans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8t3pivqtk

Now that was very very kool  :cup: :cup:

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #122 on: March 10, 2015, 08:28:49 PM »
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #123 on: March 11, 2015, 07:59:11 AM »
Quote from: D4D on March 09, 2015, 08:37:42 AM
Interesting response from Coleman...




Not that surprising, Coleman don't make a butane powered stove.  http://www.colemanaustralia.com.au/Products/06
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #124 on: March 11, 2015, 08:21:19 AM »
Quote from: Symon on March 11, 2015, 07:59:11 AM
Not that surprising, Coleman don't make a butane powered stove.  http://www.colemanaustralia.com.au/Products/06


Yep, bet the Coleman marketing dudes were falling over themselves trying to get something out when they saw the recall notices  ;D

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