Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW

[paceman]

Morning all, my better half was on Facebook this morning and found this, anyone know about it?

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/About_us/News_and_events/Media_releases/2015_media_releases/20150304_public_warning_on_portable_butane.page

Cheers

Greg

i'm confused... this whole thread was started using this very link...

[Ratbag]

Garrick is combining all these threads into one sticky as they pop up ...

[GGV8Cruza]

i'm confused... this whole thread was started using this very link...

I have merged three new threads this morning into one to keep it in one place. That is why there is some repetition in some of the posts.

GG

[paceman]

I have merged three new threads this morning into one to keep it in one place. That is why there is some repetition in some of the posts.

GG

aahhh, makes sense now.

carry on...

[Symon]

It's because people don't look at the stickies before posting new threads.

[koshari]

I must say having a couple of these I was a little surprised they actually met the standards in the first place. They are pretty flimsy after all. Having said that we too have never had a problem with them.

[koshari]

Gidday Dales

From my reading, the design is inherently dangerous. While failing to do as the instructions say is patently dangerous, it is also very bad design to have the gas source so close to heat and a source of ignition.

When our gas kiln was installed, the inspector at Supagas inspected it when he delivered the two 45L bottles and required us to move a waste water drain grate a minimum of 500mm further away from where the bottles were (the position of the bottles could not be changed as they either have to be about 2-3m from the kiln, or on the other side of a fireproof wall - steel cladding doesn't count), and to change the slope so that the concrete between the grate and the bottles sloped away from the drain and grate towards the gas bottles. As he pointed out, if the bottles were to leak for any reason, the LPG would fill the storm water drain.

There was a pretty serious issue with gas filling a sewer a few years back in Mexico I think, it blew up about 6 city blocks.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Guadalajara_explosions

Flammable gas is always bloody dangerous stuff, mate!

So is inflammable gas

[Bird]

It's because people don't look at the stickies before posting new threads.

probably cause there are too many and most don't need to be stickys like

- Interesting to see how many members in each state (poll)
- How often do you use your camper (Poll)
- WHAT TYPE OF SUSPENSION DOES YOUR CAMPER RIDE ON POLL?
- What Fridge do you use Poll. 
- Curious to see what age group the majority of members are in...Poll

[koshari]

probably cause there are too many and most don't need to be stickys like

- Interesting to see how many members in each state (poll)
- How often do you use your camper (Poll)
- WHAT TYPE OF SUSPENSION DOES YOUR CAMPER RIDE ON POLL?
- What Fridge do you use Poll. 
- Curious to see what age group the majority of members are in...Poll

Looks like we need a new sticky titled "how many people read the stickies "

[Bird]

Looks like we need a new sticky titled "how many people read the stickies "

[GregS]

Yep I went looking for my new thread and it disappeared, I thought...what the hell!!! and started to do some more looking about and came across the sticky. GG, if you want to remove mine go for it.

As for continuing to use these, we will as we have 3 in the camper/box trailer our daughter and her boyfriend use and 2 are in the patrol for when we go off without the van. We have never had an issue, as I did what we blokes mostly never do.....read the instructions    . I always test each one before a trip and any that have the first sign of trouble they get "dismantled" and dropped in the bin.

My cynicism of this whole this thing is that big business is behind it trying to get these things removed as it has killed their market share, they have "found" a couple of dodgy ones and convinced the authorities that they are all the same. What I would like to know is if all 31 brands have been tested.

[GregS]

As for the stickies, yep I will say that I didn't read them and I sincerely apologise for the inconvenience that this may have caused to some. 

[WilSurf]

We have one and still use it.
What I don't understand is how can you use it without turning the trivet as per facebook page?
Our stove can't be operated without turning it as it will not let the gas canister connect.

After seeing the chinees video you wonder how they cook. They had a large piece of silver board over the cooktop. No wonder that something will fail.

[noel_w]

My cynicism of this whole this thing is that big business is behind it trying to get these things removed as it has killed their market share, they have "found" a couple of dodgy ones and convinced the authorities that they are all the same. What I would like to know is if all 31 brands have been tested.

And I have yet to see a list of the 31 brands that are supposedly being recalled. And are there any that are "safe" and not on the recall list. Or are there only 31 brands sold and all are being recalled.
Nothing yet on here https://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/952434

[InMused]

I bought a new two burner a couple of months ago. O well.

I can't be bothered chasing a refund on a $40 item. But does give me an excuse to buy an upgrade to LPG.

Got to look on the bright side of the situation.

[koshari]

Given they are all identical I would say it's a pretty safe bet that none comply with the latest ruling.

[edz]

Its a conspiracy of internet providers to get everyone to burn up more internet time discussing the ins and outs of the problem ..bit like that dress thingo .

[jkwpajero]

The Fair Trading link now has a list of the stoves not to be used. There are butane hiking stoves that are an alternative for people who just want to boil the kettle at the side of the road.

Cheers
James

[edz]

For consumer safety information and advice visit the NSW Fair Trading website or phone the Call Centre on 13 32 20.
Affected product names and model numbers, as at March 2015 are:
Portable Butane Cookers (currently suspended)
Model name
Model number
Home Essentials   BDZ-168
Home Essentials   BDZ-163S
Red Stone   N/A
Bai Hui Portable Camping Stove   N/A
My Collection   N/A
Five Star   MS-2000
Gasmate   Plus MS-2000
Gasmate   BC1080
Gasmaster   BC1080
Jumbuck   BC1080
Jackeroo   BC1080
Excalibur   BC1080
Unnamed model   PC1070
Unnamed model   PC2080
Unnamed model   CM2200S
Unnamed model   CM2250
Unnamed model   OZ2160
Unnamed model   CM2270
Unnamed model   AD90
Adventuridge   509245
Companion   COMP523
House Brand   509245
Kookaburra   ST0990
Primus   2240
Primus   2271
Primus   TLB-102L
Red Desert   509230
Spinifex   7027612
Spinifex   90024574
Jackeroo   PL-121
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WooHoo My cookers arnt on the banned list... cut and paste from fair traders ..

[dales133]

Actualy mine are primus and on the list!
I've been using these style cookers for years though with no issues, just a usual story of brainless turds not using common sense I guess.
These primus ones look like we'll made kit though.

[hempo]

it's only the NSW ones they are concerned about because they can't read instructions down there.........

Okay up here in Qld, and every other state,  I will keep using mine also. 

There would be thousands of people using them and will never know they have been recalled.  As others have said, keep an eye on it, make sure no leaks etc.  I can't light mine without the trivet turned over either.

Just looked up the BCF website, can still buy the double cookers?  If they are going to recall the single they should also the double as a large frypan on either side will have the same effect on the can heating up.

[AdrianLR]

Odd that the issue and their own announcement is list on the Recent Scams page 

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Consumers/Scams/Recent_scams.page

[wilson79]

This was posted on the ironman 4x4 facebook page.  Seems it's stems from idiots not reading the instructions. Some used one without turning the trivet over, and then used a large pan. Heat the was deflected into the canister and it blew up

I am pretty sure my "U Beaut" branded 2 burner wont engage the canisters if the trivets are upside down?

[twotollers]

So I have had a Gasmate BC 1070, what is the difference between that and the BC 1080.  From a web search they are nothing the same!!! wo distinctly different models.

[paulo]

Maybe the scam page is a scam....

One blew up on my mates wife, she hadn't turned the trivet over the correct way.