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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2014, 01:31:00 PM »
I don't get it either. Funny how people get offended over a dig at their possessions. its just a lump of metal

I'm not offended at people having a dig at Jeep just because I've owned 3 of them - I just don't understand why so many people seem to believe that every Jeep is a piece of sh!t which will break down without warning, and the only reason anyone buys one is because the advertising is so effective.

I certainly know all the drawbacks and took them into account when deciding whether to buy my current one - but when I considered all the available options rated to tow up to 3,500 kg the Jeep came out well ahead of the competition (I really don't want to drive a dual cab ute as a daily driver!)
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2014, 02:11:52 PM »
I think you underestimate the impact the brand has (or had). Like Harley Davidson. Sell like hotcakes yet don't handle, are slower than a Vespa and as reliable as most things from the usa.

Image sells.

Just like Toyota sells on being reliable. Nissan sells on being tough. Mazda on funky.

At least Land Rover gets a rest as the whipping boy for a bit. Just a bit. They will screw it up again.
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2014, 04:16:38 PM »
Suck it up you bunch of Nancy girls.

Jeep....  :cup:

I even heard, an old 90's something Lada flogged all the "So Called" big dollar fancy Jap stuff too.  ;D
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2014, 06:58:28 PM »
A bit like Range Rovers, Jeeps are a great lease vehicle..

When the lease is up....if you are game for round two.....get another ( although most see the error of their ways and get something else )

Although now the Rangies are owned by the Indians....maybe Jeep could find a new owner ???
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2014, 07:24:13 PM »
Im glad I am in my jeep overtaking a prado with a caravan trying to get up a hill or rise in the road, they are all the same to the Toyota "powerhouse", unless of course it is a petrol model then it must carry a tanker behind it, all the same to a gutless ######, or maybe a 3.0 pootrol imploding on itself  ;D

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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2014, 09:25:44 PM »
I'm not offended at people having a dig at Jeep just because I've owned 3 of them - I just don't understand why so many people seem to believe that every Jeep is a piece of sh!t which will break down without warning, and the only reason anyone buys one is because the advertising is so effective.

I certainly know all the drawbacks and took them into account when deciding whether to buy my current one - but when I considered all the available options rated to tow up to 3,500 kg the Jeep came out well ahead of the competition (I really don't want to drive a dual cab ute as a daily driver!)

X2 Doesn't offend me at all. I find it quite amusing.

The slightly ironic thing is that rather than taking offence at being the butt of the jokes, of all the 4WD'ers I've encountered, both in person and on forums, the people who tend to be most honest and frank about their car's drawbacks, faults, quirks and failings are Jeep owners. Now I know I'm opening that straight up for the obvious replies of "they have to as they have so many" or "it's too hard to hide them when you're stuck on the side of the road" but it's true.  They can all tell you 10 things that could/should have been designed better on their car, but then they'll also tell you why the love driving them despite all of that.

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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2014, 09:32:59 PM »
I think you underestimate the impact the brand has (or had). Like Harley Davidson. Sell like hotcakes yet don't handle, are slower than a Vespa and as reliable as most things from the usa.

Image sells.

Just like Toyota sells on being reliable. Nissan sells on being tough. Mazda on funky.

At least Land Rover gets a rest as the whipping boy for a bit. Just a bit. They will screw it up again.


Absolutely. Marketing is all about selling the dream. They want you to buy from the heart rather than the head as it is that emotional tie that breeds brand loyalty.
And a good advert isn't one that tells you all about the product.......at least not from a marketers perspective. A good advert is one that you remember (whether you liked it or not), can immediately associate with the brand, and even one that evokes an emotional response (be that positive or negative) as that is what really sticks in your memory. Clearly Jeep have done a good job on their advertising as it seems that everyone here remembers their adds.
All brands do it though. They don't show reality. That's boring. Far better to show a Hilux falling off a cliff, getting washed up a romantic beach and then driving off into the sunset!
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« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2014, 10:51:07 PM »
Absolutely. Marketing is all about selling the dream. They want you to buy from the heart rather than the head as it is that emotional tie that breeds brand loyalty.
And a good advert isn't one that tells you all about the product.......at least not from a marketers perspective. A good advert is one that you remember (whether you liked it or not), can immediately associate with the brand, and even one that evokes an emotional response (be that positive or negative) as that is what really sticks in your memory. Clearly Jeep have done a good job on their advertising as it seems that everyone here remembers their adds.
All brands do it though. They don't show reality. That's boring. Far better to show a Hilux falling off a cliff, getting washed up a romantic beach and then driving off into the sunset!
btw, I'm definitely not a Toyo fan, but it's just a personal choice. I love giving Torota owners stick:-) not coz they're not great peop's, just coz it can be fun.
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2014, 11:59:58 PM »
Yeah, it really sucks that journalists from all the different media outlets are all in Jeeps back pocket and keep voting the Grand Cherokee 4WD of the year, it's a bloody conspiracy, we need to find a whistle blower like Edward Snowden to lift the lid on this!

Don't start me on the buyers, these guys are bloody fools buying more of the these unreliable self combusting death traps then any other in the class, haven't they heard the stories about the 1998 model.  I reckon when our whistle blower breaks cover he's going to reveal that Jeep manipulated these numbers too.

These "Jeepers" really need to get themselves a decent vehicle, something that was designed last century with a ladder chassis just like a truck.  Don't they know if they spend 100% of there time off road then those onroad dynamics that they all talk about don't count for anything.  They need to get rid of all there doodads and computers and replace them with something that works, something reliable like a typewriter not a computer.  They also don't understand the lubricating properties of diesel, it seems only logical that ifyou produce all that power and use so little diesel then obviously the motor isn't getting enough lubrication, it's a disaster waiting to happen.

It's probably good that these less than real men don't drive real trucks, do you really think they would be able to top up the oil in a 200 series, do the injectors on a Prado, rewire a Rover, straighten the chassis on a dual cab or even rebuild a 3l Nissan?  and when it comes to driving do you really think they would know how to get the most out of a good old 4 speed box, I bet they don't even know that they have to slow down for a slight bend in the road? 

Finally, those bloody ads on TV, don't they know if they bought a Toyota they wouldn't have any money left, the whole bigger boat thing just becomes irrelevant if you don't have any money. They'd be too stupid to realise that they couldn't tow the bigger boat with a Prado anyway.
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2014, 12:35:41 AM »
I am however an experienced once loyal Jeep supporter that has fallen off the wagon.

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How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2014, 03:50:46 AM »
I still have hope for you Scarps!
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2014, 05:03:49 AM »
[quote author=JCOJ link=topic=40431.msg664314#msg664314 date

When a vehicle spends 16 weeks at the dealer on the one warranty item, it becomes a bit beyond a joke.  When they tell you to collect the car after a warranty repair and you get no more than 100m out the driveway and the problem re-occurs (and this happened to me 4 times!!!), you start to lose faith very quickly.  When you leave for your Easter trip on Easter Thursday and you limp into the nearest town only half way to your desination and the Jeep ends up on the back of a flatbed with no assistance of a hire car from Jeep Assist, you start to get very angry.  When you get in the car and drive down your street at the start of your holiday and you wonder if you will actually make it, it is time to give up!!
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2014, 05:42:12 AM »
So everyone's up in arms cause a Jeep won?

Maybe everyone should redirect their anger towards Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi and the likes and tell them to lift their game...

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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2014, 06:25:35 AM »
So everyone's up in arms cause a Jeep won?

Maybe everyone should redirect their anger towards Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi and the likes and tell them to lift their game...

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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2014, 06:33:15 AM »
this thread confirms that it's not poilte to critisize another man's car...............................It's like saying he's only got a little wizza
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2014, 07:27:14 AM »
[quote author=JCOJ link=topic=40431.msg664314#msg664314 date
This is what happened with my D40, except when they handed it back each of the 6 times or so they said they couldn't find anything wrong with it. We did our holiday and after getting home and parking the CT went to get some milk and the engine loses all power again. 
The GC made the final 2 replacements and was the best car that we test drove, but just the dealer network and availability of parts led me elsewhere.   

Same happened to my mates BT50. After spending $20k on arb bling, he always bragged how much better it was than my prado and more capable off-road.
But then came the intermittent unidentifiable issues like losing power and gears not changing down. Took a year to diagnose, after replacing various parts, then another year of negotiation before they replaced the entire engine as a warranty claim. Then they replaced the transmission.
After 2 years of hell and unreliability, he decided to just sell it. He then bought a prado.
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2014, 09:36:10 AM »
I don't understand what this thread is about ??? There appears to be a lot of criticism on here from people who have never owned, let alone driven, a Jeep! I haven't read the article but would think the author has been subjective & based their decision accordingly. Personally, I would not entertain the thought of buying a Jeep, but that's me. What a crap world if everyone drove the same vehicle. They tried that in the old East Germany & came up with the ........Trabant.
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2014, 12:36:56 PM »
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Lift their game or their marketing budget?
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2014, 01:33:23 PM »
Must have been a misunderstanding about the term 'off road'?


Would help to know who has made the call.   

Not that I agree with the judges definition of 4x4.  Should read SUV of the year.   I must be old school cause I don't see a 4x4 in any of this lot.  Rather than 4wd ability they are more interested in the car like ability.

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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2014, 03:58:01 PM »
this thread confirms that it's not poilte to critisize another man's car...............................It's like saying he's only got a little wizza

And whats wrong with that..... hmmmm.

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« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2014, 08:09:07 PM »
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2014, 10:23:04 PM »
It's funny to hear all the Jeep apologists coming out in defense, us 80 series drivers don't need to do that  ;D
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #72 on: November 23, 2014, 08:30:35 PM »
I am not a one eyed Toyota fan it's just each one has been so reliable that I found it hard to stray.....so I finally bought a dmax and strayed , at 1000kms gearbox had to come out for a engine oil leak.....then rhf hub spewed grease the next week, so you could imagine what I was thinking! After all my lux never dropped oil in 15 years and 350000kms. So time will tell how good the truck is I think, I will get back to you in 10 years, the 200 is doing ok after 4 years (touch wood) but still got a long way to go before I make a judgment.

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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2014, 09:32:35 PM »
Let's be honest, Jeeps are pretty crap. The only reason I have one is because the doors, windscreen and roof comes off.
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Re: How did a Jeep win 2014 Off Road 4x4 of the Year?
« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2014, 09:40:06 PM »
Okay haters, now you're in trouble, nothing but coal in your stockings this Christmas!! 

Just saw the latest ad and it turns out Santa Clause has got a Jeep.