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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2014, 02:20:58 PM »
Good to see some light hearted debate with these last three pictures.   ;D

Would be interesting for people to post how there families and ancestors ended up here.

Heres mine;

On mums side they were gypsy's that came out in the 1860's from germany.  Not much on how or why they came here but they did end up here in Tas and 'married' into the indigenous population in the New Norfolk area.  Basically they were scum and from what I hear behaved like scum.

Dads side is a bit more researched.  They were Calvanists and lived in France and were thrown out by the catholics around the time of the revolution.  They were given about a week to decide whether to remain Calvanists (and die) or embrace catholicism (and live).   ( I always think I would have taken the Kent Brockman approach - "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves!"  I am sure I could have carried a cross or someones sins).  But no they left everything and went to the Channel Islands so became English.  The menfolk came out as sailors and jumped ship in Melbourne in 1846.

So we were boat people.  Came here uninvited.  Hope there is no statute of limitations.   ;D
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2014, 02:30:47 PM »
Including Country shopping???
Traveling through several "Safe" countries to get the land of milk and honey is not seeking Asylum.
Before anyone jumps down my throat for that, I don't have a problem helping anyone in need, I DO have a problem with being told how I'm going to help them.

One question,
Are the Asylum Seekers being persecuted in Indonesia?

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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2014, 04:16:54 PM »
Good to see some light hearted debate with these last three pictures.   ;D

Would be interesting for people to post how there families and ancestors ended up here.

Heres mine;

On mums side they were gypsy's that came out in the 1860's from germany.  Not much on how or why they came here but they did end up here in Tas and 'married' into the indigenous population in the New Norfolk area.  Basically they were scum and from what I hear behaved like scum.

Dads side is a bit more researched.  They were Calvanists and lived in France and were thrown out by the catholics around the time of the revolution.  They were given about a week to decide whether to remain Calvanists (and die) or embrace catholicism (and live).   ( I always think I would have taken the Kent Brockman approach - "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves!"  I am sure I could have carried a cross or someones sins).  But no they left everything and went to the Channel Islands so became English.  The menfolk came out as sailors and jumped ship in Melbourne in 1846.

So we were boat people.  Came here uninvited.  Hope there is no statute of limitations.   ;D

Great story Dazzler but you do know, don't you, that Immigration are monitoring this forum and it would pay you to have a rapid evacuation plan in place when you hear that knock on your door early one morning. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2014, 04:38:13 PM »
Well said Robbo.  Actually I am booked on the Spirit of Tas in the morning.  Hope it doesn't get dragged back to Devonport.


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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2014, 04:41:19 PM »
To late Dazzler, phone call has been made to inform them of you intention to cross boarders  ;D
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2014, 05:23:09 PM »
Well said Robbo.  Actually I am booked on the Spirit of Tas in the morning.  Hope it doesn't get dragged back to Devonport.


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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2014, 05:25:57 PM »
Woodshed.  Robbo.  Do you turn pens over at ubeaut.

If you do, and you own an altendorf/hammer or l'invincible I am on my way. 


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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2014, 05:34:21 PM »
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2014, 05:51:12 PM »
Woodshed.  Robbo.  Do you turn pens over at ubeaut.

If you do, and you own an altendorf/hammer or l'invincible I am on my way. 


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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2014, 07:19:35 PM »
There is a robbo over at the woodwork forums and when you mentioned woodshed I put 2 and 2 together and got 7.

Altendorf, Hammer and L'invincible are three of the top tablesaw combo's

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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2014, 04:01:28 AM »
There is a robbo over at the woodwork forums and when you mentioned woodshed I put 2 and 2 together and got 7.

Altendorf, Hammer and L'invincible are three of the top tablesaw combo's

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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2014, 05:38:02 PM »
Good to see

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/navy-chief-expresses-deep-concern-over-medias-lack-of-respect-for-officers-20140120-314l5.html

We can debate all night long about weather they should have been tasked with these kinds of duties, but they deserve respect for the job they do.

A pity the media added its final two paragraphs to the story!
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #87 on: January 20, 2014, 06:13:16 PM »
Reporters are grubs. They won't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
The big TV networks love to have a shot at the Defence Force.

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« Reply #88 on: January 20, 2014, 07:26:09 PM »
Good to see

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/navy-chief-expresses-deep-concern-over-medias-lack-of-respect-for-officers-20140120-314l5.html

We can debate all night long about weather they should have been tasked with these kinds of duties, but they deserve respect for the job they do.

A pity the media added its final two paragraphs to the story!


Sorry but what the hell was that????
Did I just see a small dose of common sense there?  ???
And I certainly don't want to start a political debate or go OT, but does this mean that Abbotts plan may be working and the opposition just wants to call foul?
I'm not suggesting political persuasion of either way, but hey lets call a spade a spade.
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #89 on: January 20, 2014, 07:43:49 PM »
Sorry but what the hell was that????
Did I just see a small dose of common sense there?  ???
And I certainly don't want to start a political debate or go OT, but does this mean that Abbotts plan may be working and the opposition just wants to call foul?
I'm not suggesting political persuasion of either way, but hey lets call a spade a spade.

Not sure I get your drift!

None of my posts have mentioned political persuasions of either sides.

Yes , I think the demonisation of asylum seekers by both major parties is a complete cop out, thats  irrelevant to the points I've made. There are far more important issues we as a Nation should be worrying about.

That doesn't mean that the services should be made a scapegoat for the sake of circulation. Good on the vica admiral for making his point.
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2014, 08:03:34 PM »
As far as I am concerned it is typical of all the political correctness facade, while people agree the boat people are not wanted here, they also want to be self righteous and full of arrogance quickly playing the blame game and pointing the finger any anything that will turn attention away form the their own hypocritical lifestyle. 

Just like taking out the garbage, it is a job that has to be done, no one at home volunteers for it, but someone has to do it.  Sometime you do have to get your hands in the garbage to do the job, why then make an obituary complaint  about someone doing their job.  Of course unless you are going to do it yourself.  It is called the real world and in the real world sometimes some people need a real good old fashion shut the f&*( up and just let those doing there job do their job. 
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2014, 08:30:05 PM »
Not sure I get your drift!

None of my posts have mentioned political persuasions of either sides.

Yes , I think the demonisation of asylum seekers by both major parties is a complete cop out, thats  irrelevant to the points I've made. There are far more important issues we as a Nation should be worrying about.

That doesn't mean that the services should be made a scapegoat for the sake of circulation. Good on the vica admiral for making his point.

Sorry Mace, I was trying to be sarcastic....
I was amazed that common sense came out. That's all.
Just my opinion that its political scapegoating and innocent military personnel suffer because of it.

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« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2014, 08:39:02 AM »
All good. Were both on the same track!
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« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2014, 04:46:19 PM »
There is a robbo over at the woodwork forums and when you mentioned woodshed I put 2 and 2 together and got 7.

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« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2014, 07:12:30 PM »
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« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2014, 09:22:19 PM »
I think what a lot of people choose to forget when using the, "we were the original asylum seekers " or "we invaded here first" argument, is that we didn't exactly come here on the Love Boat. Most were convicts dragged here in chains. For those who came later as immigrants, they came here to be Australians and embrace the way of life. They worked their buts off to get ahead and make a difference in this country. Now it seems Australia is the easy way to settle in with no intention of assimilation or hard work and all the while receiving generous government handouts while trying to bring in the very culture that has caused them to want to 'escape' their own country.
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Re: Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2014, 10:29:00 PM »
I think what a lot of people choose to forget when using the, "we were the original asylum seekers " or "we invaded here first" argument, is that we didn't exactly come here on the Love Boat. Most were convicts dragged here in chains. For those who came later as immigrants, they came here to be Australians and embrace the way of life. They worked their buts off to get ahead and make a difference in this country. Now it seems Australia is the easy way to settle in with no intention of assimilation or hard work and all the while receiving generous government handouts while trying to bring in the very culture that has caused them to want to 'escape' their own country.

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« Reply #97 on: January 22, 2014, 02:26:32 PM »
I think what a lot of people choose to forget when using the, "we were the original asylum seekers " or "we invaded here first" argument, is that we didn't exactly come here on the Love Boat. Most were convicts dragged here in chains. For those who came later as immigrants, they came here to be Australians and embrace the way of life. They worked their buts off to get ahead and make a difference in this country. Now it seems Australia is the easy way to settle in with no intention of assimilation or hard work and all the while receiving generous government handouts while trying to bring in the very culture that has caused them to want to 'escape' their own country.

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The whole asylum seekers by boat thing is a scam and their supporters *won't* see through the charade, or are actively *choosing* to be part of it.

Would a 'human-rights lawyer' get paid by anyone other than a tax payer?

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I don't care who comes to live in Australia, just leave your bu11sh1t behind.
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« Reply #99 on: January 22, 2014, 04:13:51 PM »

I don't care who comes to live in Australia, just leave your bu11sh1t behind.
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