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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2013, 04:32:02 PM »
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2013, 09:30:37 PM »
keep holding out for the secondhand one....i got my Kaymar rearbar (single wheel swing away at the time only) for $1300 all up delivered to my door from Melbourne to Brisbane several years back (delivery was about $150 of that price i think from memory). that bar has seen plenty of the outback, bounced off of rocks in 4wd parks and never let me down yet. like mentioned above already, mines slightly rough looking, but it still is as it should be 8) 8)
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2013, 01:35:21 PM »
Over on the lcool forum there is a big thread about rear bars, I am sort of looking as well and most people have been saying the rayslarr rear bars are pretty much just as good as the kaymar.
The arb bars however have not been rated that good at all one guy said even the arb guy said to go with a kaymar or rayslarr. something to do with the swing arms don't latch properly after time and don't stay true.

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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2013, 02:38:06 PM »
your theory (calcs) are wrong

you either already have a towbar, in which case you can sell to further improve the kaymar $/month

or you don't have a towbar in which case the savings not having to buy a towbar make the kaymar bar better


also I sold my TJM rear bar many years ago off my 105 series GXL, the guy that purchased was going to modify the mounts to fit his IFS cruiser, even though the chassis are different.

not a bad way of going IF you already have a towbar, i.e don't limit yourself to IFS rear protection bars/ swingers, if the towing duties are taken care of (major weight/ safety concern) with a proper towbar
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2013, 03:52:38 PM »
Maybe a stoopit question Theo, but could you not get something custom made for less $'s.  ???

We've got a gun welder/fabricator here in town and stuff me sideways if he couldn't build something that would do the job for less money.

There has to someone around your way that could do it.
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2013, 04:06:56 PM »
It is also 100 odd kg of payload taken up. Bar with swing arms.

......with 1 spare, mine added 42kg......
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2013, 05:03:27 PM »
Take the resale out of the equasion unless your vehicle is exactly what someone is after it will be on year k's and condition price based when sold.

A mate of mine who values uses a simple 20% formula meaning if you bolt 10k of acessories on he will simpley add 2k to the offer
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2013, 07:59:24 PM »
Take the resale out of the equasion unless your vehicle is exactly what someone is after it will be on year k's and condition price based when sold.

A mate of mine who values uses a simple 20% formula meaning if you bolt 10k of acessories on he will simpley add 2k to the offer

Agree if you leave attached, but if you separate the bar from vehicle then the resale will be closer to above
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2013, 08:04:20 PM »
......with 1 spare, mine added 42kg......

So your full kaymar bar with 1 swing arm and 1 nissan spare Tyre and wheel weighs 42kg in total?
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2013, 08:17:07 PM »
So your full kaymar bar with 1 swing arm and 1 nissan spare Tyre and wheel weighs 42kg in total?

No. It ADDED 42kg.

The Kaymar bar weighs 62kg, and 1 swing arm weighs 11kg, totalling 73kg.
The original bumper + tow bar that came off weighed 31kg.
The spare wheel doesn't come into the calcs.
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2013, 08:55:47 PM »
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2013, 11:51:30 PM »
Kaymar, and if your in no hurry hold out for a second hand one.  I love ours,it is Erin's daily driver, she swears at the latches but lives with it.
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2013, 09:43:36 AM »
Kaymar, and if your in no hurry hold out for a second hand one.  I love ours,it is Erin's daily driver, she swears at the latches but lives with it.

That's one the reasons I want the ARB bar.
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2013, 11:06:53 AM »
Does anybody on my swag own a rayslarr rear bar or know of anyone with 1. Are you or they happy with it. I like the finish around the guards for the prado more then the mcc bar and the pricing is more along along the lines I want to spend
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2013, 07:33:47 PM »
Does anybody on my swag own a rayslarr rear bar or know of anyone with 1. Are you or they happy with it. I like the finish around the guards for the prado more then the mcc bar and the pricing is more along along the lines I want to spend

Yer mate I have one on my GU patrol, ill try and get a pic for you over the next day or so, real busy at the minute. That said, I have no probs at all with my rear bar, I ordered the bar with 2 wheel carriers.

After researching it death, I basically decided for what I was prepared to pay it is fantastic value for money, not only is it made very well, they haven't skimped on the size of the steel, that's not to say that its made with oversize steel, but more in line with what you would expect of a rear bar to be made of. Of memory its 4 and 6mm steel.

TBH its in the class of the other name brand rear bars, but that's just me.

The finish is fantastic, its a little different in its basic appearance from most but all the same I think it sets it apart.

They have a great reputation across a number of forums, they were awesome to deal with, couldn't do enough for me. I fitted it myself and when I did I rang them and they were only to happy to provide support over the phone.

I haven't given it a flogging yet, but have confidence that it will hold its own when I do, I have a couple of mates who get stuck right into there wheeling and have given them a bashing on banks and ruts, and other then a few scrapes and marks, it has performed wheel.

I would defo recommended you give them a call and have a yarn, I think you will find them very helpful. The best thing is you don't have to cough up your first born child for it.....Kaymar ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hope this helps.

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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2013, 10:48:09 AM »
Swanny thanks for your input mate as I said I do like the finish of them on the prado I"ll be fitting it myself to, oh and dear old jetcrew but  I haven't told him yet  ;D. Will definitely be giving them a ring.  :cheers:
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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2013, 06:02:29 PM »
The raslarr looks very strong but the one for 100 just seems so chunky and agricultural compared to the kaymarr but it,s also $1300 cheaper.

I reckon the 100 series bar looks the worst of all the range .

will hunt for more pics  ;D

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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2013, 06:18:04 PM »
The raslarr looks very strong but the one for 100 just seems so chunky and agricultural compared to the kaymarr but it,s also $1300 cheaper.

I reckon the 100 series bar looks the worst of all the range .

will hunt for more pics  ;D

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That's a real shame mate, to be honest I would agree that if you are going to put a rear bar on you not only want it to be strong, but it also needs to look decent on the vehicle.

Keep searching, a kaymar will pop up.

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Re: Rear bar check my logic please
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2013, 06:42:55 PM »
That's a real shame mate, to be honest I would agree that if you are going to put a rear bar on you not only want it to be strong, but it also needs to look decent on the vehicle.

Keep searching, a kaymar will pop up.

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The rest of their bars are  :cup: :cup:

and I agree with Greg the prado one is the goods ;D

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