another bent dual cab.......

[Bird]

Same here Noel 

x 3
or MK or 40/55/60/80 series...

[Joff]

Respectfully disagree. Maybe not better steel but definitely thinner.
My wife has a 2010 Subaru Forester which if you sneeze at any of the panels will result in a ding. Compare that to our old 1986 DL wagon which would take a hammer to achieve the same result. We had the DL for 20 years, I doubt the Forester will last 1/2 that at the current rate of problems we have had with it.

And an X'trail has plastic front guards. So what, does the fact that you can't bash them with a hammer make it a bad front guard?

I would also like you to say that to my GQ. I doubt any current model car would cope with what it has been through and still be in the same condition in 20 years time.

Why not? What is 'condition'? Isn't it what a car is 'in' because of the way it was treated? A couple years back (2011) paid $750 for a beat up GQ to drive to cape york on a clunker trip. I can tell you, that GQ wasn't in particularly good condition. And while it made it to the top and back it wasn't without drama.

If you think that I wont be able to buy a 2013 Prado in 2033 and do something similar then we will have to wait and see about that. The only grace we have at the moment is that right now we numpties can keep the old stuff running with basic tools and some fencing wire. That won't be case when, in 2033 I buy that Prado but that doesn't make the old cars better, it just makes my mechanical ability substandard.

[Dion]

Respectfully disagree. Maybe not better steel but definitely thinner.
My wife has a 2010 Subaru Forester which if you sneeze at any of the panels will result in a ding. Compare that to our old 1986 DL wagon which would take a hammer to achieve the same result. We had the DL for 20 years, I doubt the Forester will last 1/2 that at the current rate of problems we have had with it.

The outer panels are just there for decoration.  The real strength is everywhere else.  A measure of the thickness of outer panels doesn't really tell the story.

And which car would you prefer to smash into a block wall at 80km/h?  The old Suby or the new one?  That gives you the best test of "strength".

Here's a good one - 2009 modern car (complete with "tinfoil" panels) vs thick steel 1950s Chevy. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g

Which car looks "stronger" now?

[rossm]

Here's a good one - 2009 modern car (complete with "tinfoil" panels) vs thick steel 1950s Chevy. 

That's a terrible thing to do to a 59 bel air!

[Bird]

The outer panels are just there for decoration.  The real strength is everywhere else.  A measure of the thickness of outer panels doesn't really tell the story.

And which car would you prefer to smash into a block wall at 80km/h?  The old Suby or the new one?  That gives you the best test of "strength".

Here's a good one - 2009 modern car (complete with "tinfoil" panels) vs thick steel 1950s Chevy. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g

Which car looks "stronger" now?

having been in an accident as a teen in an old chev and mate grabbing reverse and driving off, I'll take the old chev still thanks.

[achjimmy]

200 series cruza v 9 tonne truck at 80kph 

Another good reason to have plywood drawers and don't use the third row!

Photo courtesy of lcool

[DaveR]

BINGO...........

Dave,
Chassis in the early '90s were a poo poo load stronger, thicker, designed, fabricated etc than today's crop of wafer thin steel pretending to be a chassis........add in the fulcrum effect and you get...........snap........

Hummm, agreed, so then, that brings it all back to the manufacture as mentioned already above, what load spec to they provide, and for what conditions.
The dealers all happily sell you the car, canopy, roof racks and pods etc etc, do they then give revised load specs? Could be a case to claim warranty rather then putting all of our insurance fees up covering written off vehicles as often.

[hainess]

Don't need to be overweight or on the beach for it to happen.

Oops.



.

[berlitza]

so this is how they came up with the 'oh what a feeling' slogan

[Axl]

Don't need to be overweight or on the beach for it to happen.

Oops.



.

Sheeesus.......... that could have killed someone, wonder what caused that? rust, manufacture fault, design flaw.

[Coiled]

so this is how they came up with the 'oh what a feeling' slogan

Don't say anything bad about a Toyota! Had to be someone else's fault 

[KingBilly]

Sheeesus.......... that could have killed someone, wonder what caused that? rust, manufacture fault, design flaw.

The stupid TRD sticker on a Hilux.  Karma 

KB

[Jeepers Creepers]

Toyota build 'em all like this.

Something to do with the world not being flat i think, so, with the curvature (spelling?) of the world, they don't get as much air under 'em at high speed and to make 'em handle better, thus making them a world class 4WD.

Also good if ya mechanic has a club foot and stands on an angle, thus allowing him to service it better.

Just looks FUKKED to me but, shoulda bought a Jeep.... 

[McGirr]

These days alot of the money is spent on the electronics.

Mark

[sol]

Don't need to be overweight or on the beach for it to happen.

Oops.



. Lucky they weren't checking the diff oil eh.

         

[oldmate]

Toyota build 'em all like this.

Something to do with the world not being flat i think, so, with the curvature (spelling?) of the world, they don't get as much air under 'em at high speed and to make 'em handle better, thus making them a world class 4WD.

Also good if ya mechanic has a club foot and stands on an angle, thus allowing him to service it better.

Just looks FUKKED to me but, shoulda bought a Jeep.... 

I thought it was the foldable hilux. You know to save on parking, you pull up to work and hit a button and it folds up to briefcase size so you can just put it under you desk??mabye the fold button was jammed and that's why it is at the mechanics

[Jeepers Creepers]

So, it's the new George Jetsen model.... 

[Bird]

These days alot of the money is spent on the electronics.

Mark

Must be the electronic Tipper model... faster to unload camping gear....

[woolgoolgaoffroad]

Don't need to be overweight or on the beach for it to happen.

Oops.



.

Looks like an 80 series cut down, just saying- wonder if it was engineered

[kylarama]

Are the older 80's / 90's dual cab chassis really that much stronger, or are we more demanding on the latest offerings?  Add to it, their popularity has skyrocketed in the last few years.

The earlier ones like mine were usually very under powered.  Majority of owners would never think to load them with a massive custom canopy filled to the brim, or load up a heavy trailer for the fact you'd need low range to get moving.

[oldmate]

So, it's the new George Jetsen model.... 

Yes that's it mate. 

[rockman]

i would have loved to be there to here the explanation on what happened ....lol

[Bird]

i would have loved to be there to here the explanation on what happened ....lol

Lol... Im hear to pickup the black dual cab that was having a bashplate fitted... is it ready yet?

[speewa158]

200 series cruza v 9 tonne truck at 80kph 

Another good reason to have plywood drawers and don't use the third row!

Photo courtesy of lcool

Ummmm Bull bar at the back      that safety for you   & driving lights , with a safety sign chucked in   

[Bird]

200 series cruza

I'd say truly an improvement on its looks.