Author Topic: big 4 dog policy reviewed (Read 17126 times)

MDS69 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 21, 2011, 05:08:37 PM »

When I started reading this thread I was of the opinion that I wouldn't stay in a dog friendly CP but the more I think about it the more I hope that these places have a dedicated area and not mix in with the general population.
Having said that why on earth would you travel with animals (I own 2 dogs). Keeping water up to them and toilet breaks on long drive days and limited places to stay etc. To me it just doesn't make for a nice holiday but I guess it is up to the individual.

Further to oldblade's comment, that is so true. We have a 8yo and 5yo and are really strict and aware on noise affecting fellow campers. We stayed at Treasure Island over Easter this year and the amount of kids riding bikes and scooters at 6.30am with no helmets pissed me off to no end. There is a curfew up to 8.00am. Also the amount of small kids ie under 8yo with absolutely no adult supervision riding scooters, bikes and those buggy/carts at Treasure Island. I nearly cleaned one up and that was driving at less than 10km/h. Also nearly drove over the top of a trike a small child left in the middle of the road while mum and dad were having pre-dinner nibblies and drinks.

jetcrew · « **Reply #26 on:** May 21, 2011, 05:44:34 PM »

This is always the problem ,people read the rules and then assume they don't appy to them. Then the new person turns up and see's that the accepted practice is to do whatever you want ,then it all turns to crap.

As a great saying goes "RULES IS RULES JACKO" and I like to know that everyone is made to follow them.

Why on earth park owners / managers don't tell people that the terms and conditions are a contractual agreement which outline the acepted behaviours and failure to comply with them will result in termination of the agreement. And a trip home.. Park owners need to be more pro active.

From what i've seen at big4 parks this will be a disaster. But the first person that gets biten will at least have a multi national to lodge a satemant of claim to..LOL

Jetcrew

Yoda42 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 21, 2011, 06:05:15 PM »

Quote from: MDS69 on May 21, 2011, 05:08:37 PM

Having said that why on earth would you travel with animals (I own 2 dogs). Keeping water up to them and toilet breaks on long drive days and limited places to stay etc. To me it just doesn't make for a nice holiday but I guess it is up to the individual.

Because they're heaps easier than kids and they make excellent bed warmers

Try it, you might like it, the dogs certainly would I reckon! Our guys sleep on the back seat and need pit stops less than we do. We just give them water then. Too easy.

As for places to stay, there are plenty, but it does pay to be organised. The trade off is of course you can't go to National Parks, but there are still plenty of options pretty much wherever you go.

oldblade · « **Reply #28 on:** May 21, 2011, 07:56:39 PM »

Quote from: Yoda42 on May 21, 2011, 06:05:15 PM

Because they're heaps easier than kids and they make excellent bed warmers

Try it, you might like it, the dogs certainly would I reckon! Our guys sleep on the back seat and need pit stops less than we do. We just give them water then. Too easy.

As for places to stay, there are plenty, but it does pay to be organised. The trade off is of course you can't go to National Parks, but there are still plenty of options pretty much wherever you go.

could not agree more unfortunatly we lost both our boys only a few months back but they came everywhere with us and were always tied up never barked and loved sitting around the camp fire

colliedog · « **Reply #29 on:** May 21, 2011, 08:08:13 PM »

It's about time Big 4 changed their ways, they loose a lot of travellers because of this policy. If we have our dogs we have always kept away from the big4's, Top Tourist Parks are the best ones. I think the policy that you pay a $50.00 deposit for your dogs, if you don't abide by the rules you are asked to leave and loose your deposit. It seems to work so those poor campers who don't like our 4 legged friends well so sad, we wouldn't travel any other way.

welchygq · « **Reply #30 on:** May 21, 2011, 08:27:29 PM »

Quote from: Lost on May 17, 2011, 09:13:13 AM

January
nail on head
add to that dogs crapping everywhere and *some* owners couldnt give a sausage about the turd being in your camp area.

I dont want to start a big argument so please take this in the way its intended.

I have a large (40kg) and a medium dog (20kg) and to be honest most people wouldnt even know that they were there.
In the same respect we have been in caravan parks, and camp areas, where soem parents couldnt give a toss if their kids took a turd in the middle of my camp site

I think to generalise all dog owners is a bit like trying to generilise all parents.

Just my two cents.

Welchy

welchygq · « **Reply #31 on:** May 21, 2011, 09:02:15 PM »

Quote from: Yoda42 on May 21, 2011, 06:05:15 PM

Because they're heaps easier than kids and they make excellent bed warmers

Try it, you might like it, the dogs certainly would I reckon! Our guys sleep on the back seat and need pit stops less than we do. We just give them water then. Too easy.

As for places to stay, there are plenty, but it does pay to be organised. The trade off is of course you can't go to National Parks, but there are still plenty of options pretty much wherever you go.

same with our two

colliedog · « **Reply #32 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:11:17 AM »

We all have different views on this matter, I believe that all travellers with dogs & children should be considerate towards fellow campers, parks etc. With the deposit idea for dogs I do seriously think they should have one on kids too as like a few have said they start quite early in the mornings with their bikes etc (probably letting mum & dad have a sleep in). I have grandchildren and when we have travelled with them we try to be considerate and take them and the dogs away from the park in the mornings so not to disturb our fellow campers. It's a shame when you are travelling that you can't go into National Parks with dogs on leash's at least...but that's the rules - I guess

Heiny · « **Reply #33 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:39:49 AM »

Quote from: colliedog on May 22, 2011, 07:11:17 AM

With the deposit idea for dogs I do seriously think they should have one on kids too

WTF

most holiday parks charge extra for kids already, howabout dog owners pay the same fee as what parents get charged for their kids

Dont go to CP/holiday parks if you dont like others disrupting your daily routine

colliedog · « **Reply #34 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:30:35 AM »

Yeah I know you pay extra for kids - I too have grandchildren, but with our 4legged friends the idea of a deposit is great idea, makes the owners be sensible and respect the facilities & campers. I do believe the extra that you pay for each child is ridiculous, what about the people who have airconditioners compared to the ones who just have fresh air or maybe a fan, they get charged the same fee don't they!! But anyway I'm going onto a different blog.

HerGU · « **Reply #35 on:** May 22, 2011, 11:06:21 AM »

In alot of dog freindly caravan parks you already do have to pay a fee for your dogs (even thought its dogs friendly). I do not agree with the deposit idea because how am i supose to proove that it was next door's dog that started barking all day / night, and then my dog barked once before she was told to be quiet?

We try and avoid caravan parks if possible, but unfortunaltey they are a neccesary evil when it comes to wanting a nice hot shower and to recharge the batteries and water every now and again.

Personally, we have more problems with other people's kids than other dog owners. We try and camp on our own, but unforntuanley times such as easter etc everyone is doing the same thing. We often leave our dogs tied up to our camper and when we come back and take them for a walk, people often comment that they didnt even realise they were there.

Making generalised statements is silly, but i do understand that rules are for the general public.

Yoda42 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 22, 2011, 05:41:55 PM »

If I can make one plea, please don't leave your dog unattended, inside or outside, but especially outside. It's actually an offence in many councils, even if they are restrained. You don't know how your dog may react in a strange place without your presence, they could be stolen, let off deliberately or accidentally, baited, fed without your knowledge, get tangled up and are then in full sun, or could be accused of biting someone or it actually might happen, even if you believe your fluffy would never hurt a fly. It's just not worth the risks.

Sorry for the hijack, but it's an important point.

Robbo · « **Reply #37 on:** May 22, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »

I'd rather share the park with dogs than some of these feral rug rats that run amuck these days. At least you can dicipline your dog without being locked up as it understands concequences of it's actions. Not so for many of todays kids.

Bushman · « **Reply #38 on:** May 22, 2011, 06:25:34 PM »

Dog Fee! Haven't been charged for the dog yet, guess I will sooner or later

colliedog · « **Reply #39 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:43:19 PM »

We have only been charged once at (Tinnaroo Dam-Nth Qld), have gone to Conway Beach, Kurramine - no charge. Anyway I still think it is great that Big 4 is changing but heh it will only be some parks not all, same as Top Tourist Parks most let you have dogs but their is still some that don't.

Yoda42 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:03:32 PM »

I have no dramas with a dog bond. No reason you shouldn't get it back, provided you do the right thing.

swanny · « **Reply #41 on:** May 23, 2011, 03:59:56 PM »

Nothing wrong with dogs in CP, as long as they are supervised/restrained when needed.

Many a ferel child has disrupted a stay in a van park, with no appolige wat so ever from the parent.

Do the right thing no problem, if you dont like it go some where else i say.

By the way i have a dog, and its a great mate.

Bushman · « **Reply #42 on:** May 23, 2011, 06:49:52 PM »

I once rang a park on the NSW South Coast ask enquired about taking a dog, the voice on the other end of the phone said "no problem mate, I'd rather have the dogs than the bloody kids"

Kit_e_kat9 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:02:40 PM »

So are we angling towards the suggestion that Big 4 should review their Children Policy and let the dogs alone for a bit?

Kit_e
Kids 0 - Dogs 2 - My choice

welchygq · « **Reply #44 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:08:18 PM »

Quote from: Kit_e_kat9 on May 23, 2011, 07:02:40 PM

So are we angling towards the suggestion that Big 4 should review their Children Policy and let the dogs alone for a bit?

Kit_e
Kids 0 - Dogs 2 - My choice

yup

kiwipete · « **Reply #45 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:59:14 PM »

Someone put a Poll up...
I would be interested to see people’s thoughts.
Friends of ours have a lovely Black Lab that I gladly go camping with, but you can't expect it to be tied up all the time and once it wandered close to someone else camp FFS that bloke lite up and sent the dog on it's way... Fair enough but if my mate was a different bloke there could have been a blew on and a miserable weekend...

If one of your dogs came near my camp am I allowed to kick the bloody thing and send it on its way with your blessing, probably not (mind you I wouldn’t do that anyway) and what happens about blewing dogs.....

I for one won't be paying any camping ground $'s to share it with Dogs unless of course we had a dog ourselves “that is my choice”. I expect that some people feel like it is alright to take dogs when camping at a Public camping ground and we live with that but I still wish people would leave them at home…

Dog Shit don’t get me started…..

Lastly... Just wondering are there unwritten rules people should know before they take dogs camping. Tying up, dealing with Shit, barking, fighting… etc etc

BTW we have a dog a Maltese and there is no way we would take her camping as she’d bark at everyone and try bite you too… we are looking at getting a little Pug and I hope it will be a good camper… Note that I am not against camping with dogs just other peoples dogs when we don’t have one ourselves… pretty frigg’n selfish

Kit_e_kat9 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:32:19 PM »

Quote from: kiwipete on May 23, 2011, 07:59:14 PM

Lastly... Just wondering are there unwritten rules people should know before they take dogs camping. Tying up, dealing with Shit, barking, fighting… etc etc

As for rules ... I believe every council in Australia has a encyclopedia sized book full of rules that dog owners must obey no matter where the puppy steps.

Being a dog owner myself, I believe the rules are there to protect my dog from the general public with no dog sense at all.

They are fairly well behaved (95% of the time) and under my control at all times ... which means chained or on leads with me. When visiting places of interest, my pooches were treated to a doggie holiday house, day care or left with an adult at camp. Dogs get used to this and adapt really well. Yes they are my fur babies, but they are dogs foremost and are treated as such.

That said ... some owners think it's their god given right to let them loose and pretend they don't exist till it's time to return home (as with their kids), and give the rest of us a bad name.

Just call out before entering my camp site or they might give you a scare (as Rottweillers and Cattle Dogs tend to do just by being large), but it's those little white yappers you really have to watch out for!

Kit_e

listo · « **Reply #47 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:59:42 PM »

I've got 2 daughters, 1 and 3. They're good kids, we pride ourselves on making sure they're brought up well, respectful and well mannered the same as we were brought up when we came through. But all the same, they're kids and they rise early, talk and laugh loudly, even with us shooshing them down at 6.30 in the morning for the sake of others. Kids do that and i know i and all here did that when we were the same age. I'm not going to apologise for my girls acting their age and after reading through this thread, to be honest, i think i'd rather camp on our own than talk to others anyway. All i see is a group of killjoys that can't remember when they were young
Listo

TroyE · « **Reply #48 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:22:08 PM »

my 2c worth: you get the good, the bad and the ugly at every public camping ground (and that's just the dog owners) if your not prepared to tolerate people and their dogs don't stay there, sorry but reality sucks sometimes.

troy

jetcrew · « **Reply #49 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:30:46 PM »

I,ve read the whole thread agian. and have come to the following conclusion.

Alot of dog owners want to justify thier dogs behaviour by passing the attention to small children.

The thread is about a dog policy and many dog owners have attempted to make it about small children, now I don't want to start a CAT fight.LOL

But if you do not like small children playing and making noise, then a big 4 is prob not for you regardless of if you have a dog or not. They are family focused and try very hard to attract families with children ,and have built a sucessfull business doing so.

I understand that the vast majority of dog owners do the right thing however to say that children are just as bad is nonsense, unless the kids are taking a dump at your camp or trying to bite you.

We recently had our gathering as mentioned and with many kids and dogs there and no one had a problem at all , Dog owners kept the dogs on a lead at all times and the rules were read out to the kids about the dog having thier own space around thier lead/chain.Parents kept kids quite when required.

Dogs were walked each day and even taken well away from the camp ground for a little off lead time. If required

It can work for everyone to have dogs,kids and even drunken husbands at one campground but it just depends on the people. I'd like to think that myswag will always be the example to others.

Jetcrew

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