big 4 dog policy reviewed

[TroyE]

I,ve read the whole thread agian. and have come to the following conclusion.

Alot of dog owners want to justify thier dogs behaviour by passing the attention to small children.

The thread is about a dog policy and many dog owners have attempted to make it about small children, now I don't want to start a CAT fight.LOL

But if you do not like small children playing and making noise, then a big 4 is prob not for you regardless of if you have a dog or not. They are family focused and try very hard to attract families with children ,and have built a sucessfull business doing so.

I understand that the vast majority of dog owners do the right thing  however to say that children are just as bad is nonsense, unless the kids are taking a dump at your camp or trying to bite you.

We recently had our gathering as mentioned and with many kids and dogs there and no one had a problem at all , Dog owners kept the dogs on a lead at all times and the rules were read out to the kids about the dog having thier own space around thier lead/chain.Parents kept kids quite when required.

Dogs were walked each day and even taken well away from the camp ground for a little off lead time. If required

It can work for everyone to have dogs,kids and even drunken husbands at one campground but it just depends on the people. I'd like to think that myswag will always be the example to others.

Jetcrew

  

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troy

[Jacko]

Well said!

[welchygq]

I,ve read the whole thread agian. and have come to the following conclusion.

Alot of dog owners want to justify thier dogs behaviour by passing the attention to small children.

The thread is about a dog policy and many dog owners have attempted to make it about small children, now I don't want to start a CAT fight.LOL

But if you do not like small children playing and making noise, then a big 4 is prob not for you regardless of if you have a dog or not. They are family focused and try very hard to attract families with children ,and have built a sucessfull business doing so.

I understand that the vast majority of dog owners do the right thing  however to say that children are just as bad is nonsense, unless the kids are taking a dump at your camp or trying to bite you.

We recently had our gathering as mentioned and with many kids and dogs there and no one had a problem at all , Dog owners kept the dogs on a lead at all times and the rules were read out to the kids about the dog having thier own space around thier lead/chain.Parents kept kids quite when required.

Dogs were walked each day and even taken well away from the camp ground for a little off lead time. If required

It can work for everyone to have dogs,kids and even drunken husbands at one campground but it just depends on the people. I'd like to think that myswag will always be the example to others.

Jetcrew

  

Jet Crew,

I'm sorry if you have taken my comments that way.  That is not what i intended. I am by no means trying to justify other dog owners behavour, if your dog is not under voice control, good with other people and generaly well behaved, then dont camp with other people.  It was not my intention to say that kids cannot be kids, yes kids make noise, they run around, ride their bikes and climb trees and you are right we were all kids at some point(some of us might still be on the inside  ).  And i would think the vast majority of people would agree.

All i am saying is that i take offence when people group me and my dogs into the same catagory as "that stupid dog last week".  The only point i was trying to make was that an inconciderate person, is an inconciderate person.  This is regardless wether they have problem dogs, problem kids, leave rubish lying around, drive down the beach drunk or any other thing you can think of.

Please dont take anything said on here as a personal attack on you or your family.  Most of us on here are a friendly bunch ! 

[Darcy7]

Wow...!

I've just caught up on this thread and I have to say I'm a little dismayed by some of the unkind generalisations that have been made about kids and dogs and their parents/owners.  Yes there are bad examples of both but its very unfair to apply those opinions to everyone.

If that attitude was applied to everything, 4wd's would be banned, all parks would be closed to campers, you couldn't take your trail bike anywhere and forget having a generator.

We don't have kids (nature's choice) but we do have dogs and if we do take them with us, we are extremely careful to make sure they are no trouble to anyone.

Come on Swaggers....I think we all a little more enlightened than this.

[carinya]

Personal choice is the go.  I got rid of my dogs when I moved to town for a few reasons, and get offended when I can even hear a dog bark.  That being said, do what you want but in the process have some consideration for others around the park.  Like the fridge debate, no one will win this argument. 

[AKB]

Wow,

I have a seven year old boy and probably stay in a Caravan Park a couple of times a year (the times that I do are for my son).  My best memories of my family holidays' are staying in Caravan Parks and running a little bit wild with all of the other kids.

By the same token I love to see my son do the same (the kids tend to form a little swarm and have fun riding their bikes in a pack and going from new friend tent to new friends tent.)  This hasn't changed as I can remember doing it when I was a kid (and I'm now nearly 40).

I think its a little bit sad that this is one of the few places where kids can have a little bit more freedom than normal (note a little bit more freedom not unsupervised) and people are getting upset about it.  Although maybe this is a natural progression (I knew I was getting old when I started glaring at the local teenagers that gathered in the park - although I would have been one of those teenagers just 10 years earlier).

I think these days perhaps we all need to give and take a little bit more and some people are just looking for a reason to be annoyed or offended. 

Life's too short for worrying about the little things and sometimes we concentrate so much on those that the big things pass us by - NB This reply is not too anyone in particular and was not intending to offend

PS I also always take my 18month old Dalmation camping with me - we always pick up after him and he's not a Barker. 

[gronk]

We have been camping with many people who have dogs ( and some are with my swag ) and even though I don't have a dog ( and think they are a hindrance when camping )......have had no problems at all with the dogs they took along (same can't be said for some others that we have had to share campgrounds with )

Main point was the dogs as a whole were well behaved....and if the owner knew his dog wasn't going to be, it was restrained......thats what a responsible dog owner is all about..

But, when you go camping and you meet a dog that is not well behaved/restrained and the owner has the opinion that his little ( or big ) mutt is a softy and wouldn't hurt a fly and refuses to keep it out of others "private" space, then that is an irresponsible owner............but if he was a responsible owner and wanted his dog to roam free, he would at least come over and ask and then introduce his dog and see if the person was willing to accept..

Dogs and kids ?  you get good and bad, but most are a reflection on the owners !!

[colliedog]

Gronk - I agree totally with you dogs & kids are a reflection of the owners (Well said)   

[jetcrew]

Jet Crew,

I'm sorry if you have taken my comments that way.  Please dont take anything said on here as a personal attack on you or your family.  Most of us on here are a friendly bunch ! 

All good mate I did not take yours or anyones else's comments in a negative fashion ,

Everyone here has added valuable input to this topic , and it's these differences that can be shared without the personal attacks that are so ever present on other forums and society that set Myswag aside.

Been a great topic and it now has come to the point where both sides seem to have found common ground and Gronk said it well

Dogs and kids ?  you get good and bad, but most are a reflection on the owners !!

 



so very true and the core of the issue IMHO.

Jetcrew

[barneys]

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[Bird]

I think its a little bit sad that this is one of the few places where kids can have a little bit more freedom than normal (note a little bit more freedom not unsupervised) and people are getting upset about it. 

I agree. I think some people forget how they behaved when they were 2-15yrs old.

I also can see their point with kids screaming and yelling till all hours of the night when old people are in bed at 8pm. Thats why they get upset. A bad night sleep sux. But so do barking dogs and landmines.

[kylarama]

Interesting thread.

I must be one of 'those' people?

I go camping with 3 kids, 2 dogs and my trail bike.  All I need now is an old or 2 stroke genset to run 24/7, maybe carry a rifle for 'personal protection' and I'll be the complete package!

Run for the hills...

Kylarama, coming to a camp ground near you!

[D4D]

Just as long as you don't take a quad bike

[kylarama]

Just as long as you don't take a quad bike

Unregistered and without a helmet of course!

That reminds me.  I need to take the baffles out of the exhaust on my bike.  Helps it warm up quicker for those 6am rides!