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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2013, 06:27:03 PM »
Quote from: krisandkev on November 21, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
I think you are missing some very important points, as explained by sports commentators.  While the English team were here playing games against Aust A and others, our team were still overseas.  In other words the English have got used to our conditions, the Australian team have not.  Does not make sense and it is not the English fault.  So maybe things will improve for the Aussies as the series goes on.  I hope!!!!   ;D  Also, there are still a number of top players unavailable due to injury.  ???   Kevin

At an elite level though they should be able to play their sport anywhere I realise all wickets and grounds play differently but the aussie's should be able to play on these grounds and grounds in India, England, New Zealand etc that is what they get paid for.  If hack players stopped getting games just because and they tried some others they might go a little further.  I hope though that you are right and that things improve as the series goes on.   :cheers:
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2013, 06:35:45 PM »
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I think you are missing some very important points, as explained by sports commentators. 
Ch 9 making excuses?

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While the English team were here playing games against Aust A and others, our team were still overseas.  In other words the English have got used to our conditions, the Australian team have not.
Our team lives here... if they aren't used to it... then they never will be.

also I believe that nobody has played on this new "drop in" pitch before..
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2013, 06:51:12 PM »
Never been a Clarke fan, but it seems he's pretty hard to knock off the perch for some reason. Don't know why, he's not a captains A$$hole  ???
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2013, 06:58:36 PM »
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Never been a Clarke fan, but it seems he's pretty hard to knock off the perch for some reason. Don't know why, he's not a captains A$$hole  ???
sad but true..
Same as many though, once they are in the team, and their roots are embedded they are there for life, no matter how Shit they are
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2013, 07:20:30 PM »
Wait for it from Clark, "let's take the positives out of it". Stuff that mate, how about rebuilding the team with talented youth and players deserving of a crack. Seriously how Watson still gets a game is bewildering??? He better bowl well as Faulkner should have played before Watson.

Going to be a long summer with a mouthy pom at work >:(
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2013, 07:30:09 PM »
Quote from: Brutus on November 21, 2013, 07:20:30 PM
Going to be a long summer with a mouthy pom at work >:(

Used to work with a mouthy pom, I shut him up by asking if he has a South African passport too!!!  ;D
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2013, 08:23:43 PM »
Quote from: krisandkev on November 21, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
... Also, there are still a number of top players unavailable due to injury.  ???   Kevin
Since we batted today, please tell us all who the injured batsmen are that would have made the team...
Seriously, the reactions here are sooo negative yet nobody has put forward a serious alternative top 6 that could do much better.  Analysis first, and the prime candidate for venting frustration at should be one D Warner.  This guy simply has NFI when it comes to batting in 2 innings cricket under pressure, and for the sake of our country's cricket future should be immediately confined to short format games forever.  Move the maligned Watson back to open and bring in a BATSMAN, not a half breed "all rounder" who can't hold his place in the team as a bowler or batsman alone.   My suggestion: select haddin as a batter and bring in Hartley from our sunny state to keep.  Ridiculous?  Maybe, maybe not, but at least haddin plays positive and within his limits, unlike Warner who has a head swell commensurate with the God like status afforded the players of the modern era. And give guys a go > Hughes, Kawaja, Cowan these guys must wonder what the heck they have done wrong.  Pick a side for a SERIES, give that team a go, and then assess/drop/etx.  The recent English series had so much chopping & changing in the top 6 nobody except Clarke knew what was what.
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2013, 10:32:27 PM »
Yeah, some reasonable comments.

Firstly, let Watson prove he can stand up and play for more that three tests in a row, and learn how to move his feet. Lost track of now many times he has got out cheaply just before lunch and put pressure on those down the order. His records speaks for itself, only three test hundreds in his career, but still considered the great white hope!

Haddin, you must be joking, yep he is a good keeper, put putting faith in a 37 year old as a batsman for the future is crazy.

Hughes, kawaja and co, agree completely, let them consolidate.

Clarke, great bat, but is being restricted by his inability to hit across the line, hook or sweep. Stood there unable to move today and got picked of.

I'll stand by my initial comment, any other sport but cricket Clarke and Watson would be pensioned off.  Playing at this level makes it very hard to hide if you can't adapt your game to match your physical ability.  Peitersen to his credit has done so reasonably well.
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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2013, 07:05:16 AM »
My suggestion RE Haddin was for this series only. I'm not saying he is a long term solution, but there isn't anyone else putting their hand up at the highest level.  At some ooint a team has to be selected that can possibly win a test or series NOW. You can't always be planning for the future. Watson is simply not technically good enough at the highest level against the best bowlers under test match rules & conditions. He is very much a flat track bully and destroyer of average attacks in the mould of David Hookes in the 70's & 80's. In short form cricket he knows roughly the line and length of each delivery he is going to receive (otherwise the ridiculous rules make it wide or no ball). This allows him to pre meditate his shots to an extent. He sets himself very early, has firm wrists (hence lots of nicks) and shuffles across his stumps playing for deliveries outside off, knowing full well that in short cricket any ball on the stumps that is even marginally heading towards leg is called wide. Unfortunately in test cricket this leads to him being highly susceptible to LBW. But who else is better? At least he has 3 tons, don't forget it took S Waugh 27 tests to get his first, then he fell in a hole and was dropped, and then returned with the grit and determination that made him an all time top 10 Aussie batsman.
That's my take on the situation anyway.
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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2013, 10:25:39 AM »
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2013, 10:45:25 AM »
bit of bad luck for Haddin, never was a second run in it
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2013, 02:38:46 PM »
Look for an indian bookmaker in the crowd....
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2013, 02:40:58 PM »
England 8 for 91
Looks like our bowlers at least are having a dig
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2013, 02:44:41 PM »
Maybe we don't suck today ;D
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2013, 03:05:42 PM »
Quote from the Age online from twitterverse.

"This is the worst batting since yesterday",

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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2013, 03:08:21 PM »
Just put the TV to check the score, England 8 for 99.....   Early in the game, but I think some Myswagers should get ready to apologise.....  Come on Aussies....  Beat the poms and certain Myswagers.  :cheers:   Kevin
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2013, 03:51:41 PM »
Quote from: muzza01 on November 22, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Maybe we don't suck today ;D

Nah, our team still sucks and badly, but in this case, the Poms suck even worser and worser.  :D
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2013, 03:53:09 PM »
Let's see if they can do any better in the second innings

 A few people eating humble pie I think



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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2013, 03:56:29 PM »
Quote from: GGPatrol on November 22, 2013, 03:53:09 PM
Let's see if they can do any better in the second innings

 A few people eating humble pie I think


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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2013, 04:00:02 PM »
We suck at cricket! Not as good as the Poms!
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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2013, 04:09:13 PM »
3 years ago we knocked the poms over cheap in the first with a Siddle hat trick. Then n their second innings were 1/500 odd so I'm not counting any chickens yet, but well done to the bowlers. I absolutely hope Johnson proves me wrong and manages to bowl that good all season. But the biggest problem for a while hasn't been the bowlers as they are making plenty of runs!  ;D
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Re: We suck at cricket....
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2013, 04:53:49 PM »
Quote from: GGPatrol on November 22, 2013, 03:53:09 PM
Let's see if they can do any better in the second innings

 A few people eating humble pie I think


Not me for one, stand by everything I've said about Watson and Clarke.

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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2013, 05:13:58 PM »
Quote from: Mace on November 22, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Not me for one, stand by everything I've said about Watson and Clarke.

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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2013, 05:29:17 PM »
Quote from: Mace on November 22, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Not me for one, stand by everything I've said about Watson and Clarke.

 :cheers:

X3 mostly mine is about Watson and a bit Haddin.  I wont be sorry for saying things about them I am not saying I can play better but they get paid to do this so do a good job or bugger off.  Glad to see at this stage still 0 for 63 would love to beat the poms this summer
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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2013, 08:02:48 PM »
 
Quote from: Mace on November 22, 2013, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from the Age online from twitterverse.

"This is the worst batting since yesterday",

 ;D
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