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Title: Tata
Post by: oldmate on July 15, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
Has anyone got the new dual cab Ta Ta and what are they like for touring And towing the camper?

Cheers :cheers:
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
At the risk of sounding offensive I wouldn't trust anything an Indian made with the possible exception of a royal Enfield bike....and that's because the poms designed them.
You think the Chinese can make some crap at times it's got nothing on what Indian standards are
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Bad Scott on July 15, 2015, 07:55:11 PM
Whats wrong with ya Porche Cayenne. stuck in 4wd low range?
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Steffo1 on July 15, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
A bloke I know worked as a mechanic in a certain multi vehicle dealership which included Tata a few years ago & quote" Never buy a Tata".
As to Indian makes, a rellie has a dual cab Mahindra & value for money, it's great. He's done heaps of outback stuff towing a camper & done it with ease. They've just come back from the "3 corners" & had a hoot.
Here's their first trip. Not 3 corners.

http://www.mahindra.com.au/auto/10000km-holiday-in-a-pik-up-no-problem/ (http://www.mahindra.com.au/auto/10000km-holiday-in-a-pik-up-no-problem/)
Steve
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 15, 2015, 08:20:00 PM
I prefer the Tata's that have tassels on them
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
I've got a mate that's got one and he highly recommends them.. I drove it a few weeks ago and I was very surprised at how comfortable it was.. So as a touring vehicle towing a camper I think it would eat up the k's..
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
I bet it would be like an Indian bus passenger after to much vindaloo. ... would seem ok at first but would Shit itself after a few to many ks
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 08:33:17 PM
I bet it would be like an Indian bus passenger after to much vindaloo. ... would seem ok at first but would Shit itself after a few to many ks
Just like most newer dual cabs these days..
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Fathom on July 15, 2015, 08:33:57 PM

I prefer the Tata's that have tassels on them

For the side mirrors right? :)
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 15, 2015, 08:35:22 PM

For the side mirrors right? :)

yep, like the Sri Lankan taxis
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 08:37:37 PM
Just like most newer dual cabs these days..
Quite possibly mate but it's like the lada of the 200 '.
Why tempt fate.
Thier passenger cars don't meet safty ratings anywhere outside of the poorest south east Asian countries and thier build qualities questionable from reviews I heard a few years back...screams lada.
I'd Personaly have one of those Wolsey taxis they make thier though
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 08:42:47 PM
Quite possibly mate but it's like the lada of the 200 '.
Why tempt fate.
Thier passenger cars don't meet safty ratings anywhere outside of the poorest south east Asian countries and thier build qualities questionable from reviews I heard a few years back...screams lada.
I'd Personaly have one of those Wolsey taxis they make thier though
Don't knock the Lada.. I've got another mate with one and he's always up in around the Glasshouse mountain flexing the crap out of it.. And I've seen him at cruiser park following a few highly modified GU's..
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 15, 2015, 08:45:35 PM

Don't knock the Lada.. I've got another mate with one and he's always up in around the Glasshouse mountain flexing the crap out of it.. And I've seen him at cruiser park following a few highly modified GU's..
this one?
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 08:47:28 PM
Similar..

Just a light shade of red..
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 15, 2015, 08:48:05 PM

Quite possibly mate but it's like the lada of the 200 '.
Why tempt fate.
Thier passenger cars don't meet safty ratings anywhere outside of the poorest south east Asian countries and thier build qualities questionable from reviews I heard a few years back...screams lada.
I'd Personaly have one of those Wolsey taxis they make thier though
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: oldmate on July 15, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
Don't knock the Lada.. I've got another mate with one and he's always up in around the Glasshouse mountain flexing the crap out of it.. And I've seen him at cruiser park following a few highly modified GU's..

Where they attached?
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 08:49:00 PM
Lada are great cars.
The lada niva when it came out as with the fiat 128 clone were Shit but not by design, conceptual the niva was a fantastic car and if you drove it home from the dealer and pulled it apart and resembled it yourself it was great.
The build quality was Shit....range rovers spring to mind to
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 08:51:22 PM
Where they attached?
Oh yep.. I missed that part of the story.
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Bad Scott on July 15, 2015, 08:54:17 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Bird on July 15, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
Has anyone got the new dual cab Ta Ta and what are they like for touring And towing the camper?

Cheers :cheers:
more power than you can handle....
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: oldmate on July 15, 2015, 09:04:35 PM
I've got a mate that's got one and he highly recommends them.. I drove it a few weeks ago and I was very surprised at how comfortable it was.. So as a touring vehicle towing a camper I think it would eat up the k's..
 :cheers:

Liar!  You don't have mates
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 09:10:38 PM
Lol... what a thread
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Fathom on July 15, 2015, 09:21:04 PM

this one?
I heard the biggest problem with them was getting matching tyres on the camper
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 09:21:35 PM
Liar!  You don't have mates
True..
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Clouty on July 15, 2015, 09:23:42 PM
It's hard to find front and rear recovery points for them as well..

Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 15, 2015, 09:29:49 PM

It's hard to find front and rear recovery points for them as well..
Tata's or Lada's?
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Nomad on July 15, 2015, 09:30:30 PM
Lada's were good....you didn't need tow points.
Turn the key one way and you had four forward gears + reverse.

Turn it off and start it the other way and you had four reverse gears +1 forward gear.

They would do 80kms going backwards or forwards..............my uncle had the redcliffe dealership and we used to beat the **** out of them at DI and Fraser......they were a joke but a pretty capable one.

Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 09:37:05 PM
I realy do love the shape.
I worked on a project in New Zealand for a guy called Fredrick Hundertwasser (he changed the spelling of both names like his undies) he was an austrian artist/architect the came to eventually live in NZ.
He was mates with Salvador Daily and was worth millions but drove a rusty Shit ty old lada niva with bald tyres and knitted his own socks and sewed his own pants.
Incredible bloke but he needed a new car.
I remember driving him to an auto parts joint and thinking "I'm driving a multi milionare to repco to get a battery for a car worth less than mine... what's wrong with this picture.
 This is what we built for him...explains alot.
  (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/e5ba2f71db334eb008309abb1cec0fbb.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/0746d5e987bdaa9c5e56cca3ddc2e508.jpg)
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Nomad on July 15, 2015, 09:40:18 PM
YEp........looks like total sh!t. Perfect lada owner.
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 09:45:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dirtpilot on July 15, 2015, 11:12:10 PM
Just about all dual cab utes are made in 3rd world countries and the quality reflects this. The Tata might be worse than the Thai made Tuk Tuk utes but by how much?
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 15, 2015, 11:28:06 PM
They arnt as cool as a tuk tuk though!
One with 3 3 ' s and a v8 would be a talking point
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: plusnq on July 16, 2015, 05:07:39 AM
Tata also own Jaguar/Landrover so there will probably be some IP sharing going on there. Don't knock the Lada. I had one for seven years, doing outback clinics in the Gulf and Mount Isa region. Cheap finish, underpowered and too small a fuel tank definitely. But it embarrassed quite a few Landcruisers and Patrols with its light weight and 4WD ability. And I sold it for what I bought it for when I traded up to a 100 series LC!
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: speewa158 on July 16, 2015, 06:52:36 AM
yep, like the Sri Lankan taxis       ( JEEP )  ;D                 :cheers:
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: lowflyer on July 17, 2015, 06:04:36 PM
Have had a few Lada Nivas over the years. Joke all you want they where amazing little machines that left quite a few of my Patrol and cruiser driving mates red faced. I got my modded up SWB patrol on muddies in all sorts of bother up Thompsons Track (worth looking up on google) back in NZ completely bogged and stuck fast half up the doors. None of the 4X4 Club guys where interested in going up to help get us out so went home bought a $500 Niva on road tyres and went back a day or so later. Made it up there without a worry and back down. Turned around and sold it a week later for $1000. Things you do when young and dumb ;D
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: paceman on July 17, 2015, 06:11:47 PM
Just about all dual cab utes are made in 3rd world countries and the quality reflects this. The Tata might be worse than the Thai made Tuk Tuk utes but by how much?

AFAIK, the ford ranger, mazda bt50, Holden Colorado and Toyota hilux are made in Thailand and their build quality is as good as anything else around in that general price range...
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: michaelh on July 18, 2015, 06:05:27 PM
Olly do they make a blue one?
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Barry G on July 18, 2015, 10:01:41 PM
I realy do love the shape.
I worked on a project in New Zealand for a guy called Fredrick Hundertwasser (he changed the spelling of both names like his undies) he was an austrian artist/architect the came to eventually live in NZ.
He was mates with Salvador Daily and was worth millions but drove a rusty Shit ty old lada niva with bald tyres and knitted his own socks and sewed his own pants.
Incredible bloke but he needed a new car.
I remember driving him to an auto parts joint and thinking "I'm driving a multi milionare to repco to get a battery for a car worth less than mine... what's wrong with this picture.
 This is what we built for him...explains alot.
  (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/e5ba2f71db334eb008309abb1cec0fbb.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/0746d5e987bdaa9c5e56cca3ddc2e508.jpg)
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Barry G on July 18, 2015, 10:21:29 PM
I realy do love the shape.
I worked on a project in New Zealand for a guy called Fredrick Hundertwasser (he changed the spelling of both names like his undies) he was an austrian artist/architect the came to eventually live in NZ.
He was mates with Salvador Daily and was worth millions but drove a rusty Shit ty old lada niva with bald tyres and knitted his own socks and sewed his own pants.
Incredible bloke but he needed a new car.
I remember driving him to an auto parts joint and thinking "I'm driving a multi milionare to repco to get a battery for a car worth less than mine... what's wrong with this picture.
 This is what we built for him...explains alot.
  (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/e5ba2f71db334eb008309abb1cec0fbb.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/0746d5e987bdaa9c5e56cca3ddc2e508.jpg)
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: loanrangie on July 19, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
I realy do love the shape.
I worked on a project in New Zealand for a guy called Fredrick Hundertwasser (he changed the spelling of both names like his undies) he was an austrian artist/architect the came to eventually live in NZ.
He was mates with Salvador Daily and was worth millions but drove a rusty Shit ty old lada niva with bald tyres and knitted his own socks and sewed his own pants.
Incredible bloke but he needed a new car.
I remember driving him to an auto parts joint and thinking "I'm driving a multi milionare to repco to get a battery for a car worth less than mine... what's wrong with this picture.
 This is what we built for him...explains alot.
  (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/e5ba2f71db334eb008309abb1cec0fbb.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/0746d5e987bdaa9c5e56cca3ddc2e508.jpg)



You mean Salvador Dali, i dont think he drove an Iveco  ;D
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dales133 on July 19, 2015, 06:15:08 PM
Yea spelling Spanish isn't my strong suit and auto correct isn't always helpful either!
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Barry G on July 19, 2015, 09:48:09 PM
My quote double posted, but left out my comment, WTF?

Comment was that the tile work and 'verandah' posts looked like creations of Gaudi.
Another great Spanish creative mind.
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dirtpilot on July 19, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
AFAIK, the ford ranger, mazda bt50, Holden Colorado and Toyota hilux are made in Thailand and their build quality is as good as anything else around in that general price range...

Thailand made is cheap, why did the Japanese move production there. I had 2 Tritons, one was an older MK which was great and then i got a MN, total rubbish. Cheap and nasty, unrelieble and cost a bomb to service and repair. Back to Japanese built for me.
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: paceman on July 20, 2015, 06:27:42 AM
Thailand made is cheap, why did the Japanese move production there. I had 2 Tritons, one was an older MK which was great and then i got a MN, total rubbish. Cheap and nasty, unrelieble and cost a bomb to service and repair. Back to Japanese built for me.

as an owner of a 2012 mazda bt50, i guess we'll have to agree to disagree  :)

i am curious to know which dualcab is fully japanese made?  not trying to stir, genuinely curious...
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: kylarama on July 20, 2015, 07:26:31 AM
Things are made in Thailand because labor is cheap.  Most Japanese manufacturers have plants in Thailand. Still run by Japanese and made to their standards. Some of these factories are identical down to the size and layout. 
Has nothing to do with the quality of the product they build. If its crap in Thailand it will be crap in Japan too.

Sent from my GT-I9507 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Tata
Post by: dirtpilot on July 20, 2015, 11:29:29 PM
as an owner of a 2012 mazda bt50, i guess we'll have to agree to disagree  :)

i am curious to know which dualcab is fully japanese made?  not trying to stir, genuinely curious...

Went from 2010 Triton single cab to 06 Patrol single cab. And loving it, 4.2 liters of goodness. No more cart springs, drum brakes, puny fuel tank, electronics that fail, gearboxes that fail, clutches that fail, flimsy running gear......... i could go on but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: cyberess on July 21, 2015, 12:14:57 AM
Has anyone got the new dual cab Ta Ta and what are they like for touring And towing the camper?

This thread certainly cruised off topic  --  Got the brand police out  :police:  even got people concerned where certain other vehicles are manufactured, even someone saying or trying to refer to the Tatas are not safe.

"Oldmate" are you asking as you know someone considering a  Tata Xenon ute? or just curious? or just something you seen at a dealer?

Now looking at the Tata Xenon  http://www.tatamotors.com.au/vehicles/xenon/ (http://www.tatamotors.com.au/vehicles/xenon/)


Looking at the specs the tyres and wheels sizes  235/70 R16  don't seem to be as large as the Mahindra  245/75 R16, and does not appear to have the locking diff as the Mahindra, but just everything else is seems up there and it's nice the see that the Tata has Electronic Stability Control

Should the Tata Xenon be completely dismissed as a 4wd to be considered if you looking to purchase a 4wd in the sub $30000 mark  -- I guess that is more the question.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: rotare on July 21, 2015, 02:04:35 PM
Things are made in Thailand because labor is cheap.  Most Japanese manufacturers have plants in Thailand. Still run by Japanese and made to their standards. Some of these factories are identical down to the size and layout. 
Has nothing to do with the quality of the product they build. If its crap in Thailand it will be crap in Japan too.

Sent from my GT-I9507 using Tapatalk

Mate of mine works in the warranty division at Mitsubishi Australia.  When I was looking at Purchasing a Pajero I quizzed him about typical issues being raised during the warranty period.  For the Japanese made Pajero he said the issues were far and few between, and said the typical issues he had dealt with were minor and easy fixes.  He made the point of comparison that the Thai built Triton, although a different vehicle, shares some components with the Pajero, but the warranty issues and problems for this vehicle were enormous. 

He said that inside Mitsubishi it was acknowledged the lower quality and higher failure rates were most likely due to the poorer quality controls outside of Japan.   
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: oldmate on July 21, 2015, 03:21:58 PM
This thread certainly cruised off topic  --  Got the brand police out  :police:  even got people concerned where certain other vehicles are manufactured, even someone saying or trying to refer to the Tatas are not safe.

"Oldmate" are you asking as you know someone considering a  Tata Xenon ute? or just curious? or just something you seen at a dealer?

Now looking at the Tata Xenon  http://www.tatamotors.com.au/vehicles/xenon/ (http://www.tatamotors.com.au/vehicles/xenon/)

  • Safety Ancap 4 star rating  -- not up there with the 5 star ratings but 4 star is still quite good
  • Capped Price Servicing 4 Years/60,000km
  • Warranty 4 years/ 100,000km
  • Service Intervals 15,000km  <-- seems a bit long to me
  • On road buy price $28,990 on the dual cab 4x4 seems to be rather good

Looking at the specs the tyres and wheels sizes  235/70 R16  don't seem to be as large as the Mahindra  245/75 R16, and does not appear to have the locking diff as the Mahindra, but just everything else is seems up there and it's nice the see that the Tata has Electronic Stability Control

Should the Tata Xenon be completely dismissed as a 4wd to be considered if you looking to purchase a 4wd in the sub $30000 mark  -- I guess that is more the question.

 :cheers:


Got someone I know who is thinking of getting rid of his lada for one. Lada is struggling. Great car though.
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 21, 2015, 03:54:07 PM

Got someone I know who is thinking of getting rid of his lada for one. Lada is struggling. Great car though.
so, it's friend that's interested hey.  You should just fess up and buy buy your ta ta;D
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Snapman007 on July 21, 2015, 04:06:23 PM
so, it's friend that's interested hey.  You should just fess up and buy buy your ta ta;D

Scott Neville Sherwood said it is just someone he knows. If he said it was a friend we'd all know it was a lie. ;D
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: scarpsD40 on July 21, 2015, 04:16:02 PM

Scott Neville Sherwood said it is just someone he knows. If he said it was a friend we'd all know it was a lie. ;D
lol......
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: oldmate on July 21, 2015, 05:23:23 PM
Like snapman007 said, i dont have friends, its someone i know. :cheers:
Title: Re: Tata
Post by: Elky on July 28, 2015, 08:13:04 PM
For the $28k that gets you a tata I would rather put my cash down on a d22 nav........