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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pog on May 06, 2015, 09:47:34 PM
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Struggle street on SBS tonight.
It has copped a fair bit of criticism this week for being unfair on the People of Mt Druit.
I've never been there, but it is like I expected.
Thanks to all major networks inc the ABC and the Mayor of Bankstown for advertising the show so well this week.
Without all the media hype about how inaccurate the show is, I would never have known it was on.
I am loving it though... It's just like Housos, but they are not acting!
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Damn, I forgot to watch it ..........
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"Why go's buy a chicken when ya can just come down ere and shoot one of these c**ts" ...clasic
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Yeah... Haha... That bloke was funny.
I can't see what all the issues are about.
They followed a family that are doing it tough, using drugs, in court, jail, stealing sh!t, general ferals etc.
If these people didn't try to have the show stopped, most of the viewers tonight wouldn't have even known it was on, and hardly anyone would have watched it.
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We chose not to watch it, it's not like "Real Housewifes of somewhere..."
Loved what Blacktown Council did with the garbage trucks though.
ATC
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I've been looking forward to it since I first saw it advertised.
I spent about 7 years in NZ working for housing fixing once were warriors broken Shit and about 4 here in corio, norlane and Whittington, there's fook all I havnt seen
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"Why go's buy a chicken when ya can just come down ere and shoot one of these c**ts" ...clasic
Yeah I was rolling on the floor with that.
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once were warriors broken Shit
hahahahah, once you climbed over the XP falcon bodies?
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Lol.
I'll share a couple of yarns with you...
I'm in the driveway of this house, I'd just pulled up and I see this Hi ace van with the doors ajar causing down the street.
Then it floors it up on the lawn beside me and all these coppers in riot gear jump out and smash the doors and windows in and start dragging all these bros out.
I was sitting in my van minding my own business eating a pie and all he'll broke loose.
I said to this cop "hey mate do you mind moving so I can get out, not much point fixing the door lock now is there"
He just about Shit himself he hadn't even seen me sitting there amongst all the broken cars and commotion...true story.
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Went to another place and a cop car turns up to arrest this huge bastard and they knock on the door and he opens it and just punches this cop in the face and sends him flying, he then proceeds to belt the other two around the front lawn.then about 3 more cop cars turn up and this one blokes taking them all on.
They pepper spray him and whack him and he's swatting them like Flys. They eventually get him cuffed and into a car.i was building a wheelchair ramp about 6 meters away lol
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lol..
I was pissing myself every time someone opened there mouth ;D ;D
Hey dales.. I know what your talking about in NZ, I had a mate live in South auckland for a few years and every time we visited it was like driving through the set of Once were Warriors..
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Taking pleasure from the unfortunate situation of others is something I would have thought Un-Australian.
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Taking pleasure from the unfortunate situation of others is something I would have thought Un-Australian.
You are correct that taking pleasure from the unfortunate situation of others is Un-Australian, but the people we are talking about can change their situation and improve their life.
On the radio during the week with all the hype about this show they interviewed Eddie McGuire and apparently he grew up in bad neighbour, but he knew if he did well at school he could break the cycle and do something better.
Also we have the Young Australian from a couple from a years ago. She was an aboriginal girl who I believe came from Cape York and when interviewed about the crime, alcohol and standard of living in her own town she was very critical of her own people for not getting off their butts and taking the first steps on improving their lives instead on living on handouts.
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hi all. from my life experience there are people all over Australia and the world for that matter.some that are down on there luck or cant cope with life and life gets to much for them
the problem starts when govt etc stick a lot of people in one spot with no amenities etc etc
I remember green valley and all the nick names it got
yet I worked with blokes gfrom there in building game they were hard workers and just trying to make a life for the family the same as me and many others
I agree the major is a joke the program got the best advertisement of all free
he is a carbon copy of our Wyong major
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lol..
I was pissing myself every time someone opened there mouth ;D ;D
Hey dales.. I know what your talking about in NZ, I had a mate live in South auckland for a few years and every time we visited it was like driving through the set of Once were Warriors..
Yea i worked in south auckland , pretty rough joint
And I agree with previous remarks..some people are down on thier luck and poverty is no joke but when you get 3 or 4 generations in one house that have never worked or dickhead that tattoo thier faces and necks and Shit complain they are poor I've got no sympathy at all.
That old bloke on the program with the dead Shit son wasn't a bad bloke he'd just fell on hard times but he didn't have a dickhead attitude either.
And generaly speaking the government don't force them all into one area it's where they grew up, where thier family and friends are an where they want to be.
It's also economicly how cities work, the less you can aford in rent the further out you live so you get poverty belts because of it.
From my experience in nearly a decade and a half in 2 countries dealing with these areas and the people in them at least half could in a matter of weeks turn thier situations around if they had the gumption too
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Although I agree in principle that in some respects more could be done / or services could be better managed to help the unfortunate in this country. It really gets under my skin when I hear people wholly blame the "government" or other groups for their personal situations and predicament.
There's plenty of people out there that simply choose not to participate and contribute to our society in a positive way, even though they have the ability or have been given the opportunity. They'd rather complain about their situation and imply they are the "victim" of the system, than actually do anything constructive about turning around their lives.
I talk with a little bit of experience. One side of my extended family have spent their lives being unemployed, living in govt provided housing and living off govt assistance. We are now seeing the 3rd generation of this family following the exact same path. No amount of help or persuasion seems to change their destiny. My wife also works in an organisation that provides support, accommodation and housing to people re-entering the community after being in jail. A good portion of these people almost immediately re-offend, skip bail, hit the drugs or abuse the tax payer funded accommodation provided to them. They're given support, assistance, money and housing - all that's expected of them is to make an effort and want to change, yet they make the choice to fall back to old habits and ways.
There's genuine people who are sick and with mental health issues that need more govt support than is currently provided. It's separating out the ones that are in genuine need, from the ones who aren't, is the really challenging part.
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Yeah... Haha... That bloke was funny.
I can't see what all the issues are about.
They followed a family that are doing it tough, using drugs, in court, jail, stealing sh!t, general ferals etc.
pretty much Sydneys west / southwest to a T... LMAO!!
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I watched the show and found it interesting.
I think you could get rid of the Mt Druit tag and most people would recognize it as an area near them. This kind of thing happens everywhere in Australia. It is a vicious cycle in families and if you see mum and dad don't work then why would I.
Plus if you don't know what it is like to have a nice holiday or car etc, how would you know what you are missing.
One thing that does really get me mad is when people on the dole refer to it as "me pay". It is not pay you have to work to get paid, if it is anyone's "pay" it is my "pay" or anybody else that pays taxes "pay".
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hahahahah, once you climbed over the XP falcon bodies?
No not the XP's as they have a new classic value more likely an XD after they parked it when they upgraded to newer model AU
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I had a maori mate when I was in my early 20 he would have been in his late 50 or so at the time.
Great bloke and could fix anything with a coat hanger or duct tape but he had about 12 cars on his lawn and as far as he was concerned a legitimate reason for them being there.
He'd casual say how good the Bedford van went but needed the front brakes done like he'd parked it there yesterday but it had been there 15 years.
The whole street were petitioning the council to get him to get rid of them all but he wouldn't budge.clasic old bloke but a Shit hoarder from hell
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For those who missed it you can watch it here http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/433209411782/Struggle-Street-S1-Ep1?cid=od:v2:1 (http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/433209411782/Struggle-Street-S1-Ep1?cid=od:v2:1)
If you have a smart tv you can also download the SBS app and watch it from there.
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Taking pleasure from the unfortunate situation of others is something I would have thought Un-Australian.
I get what you are saying and I agree in principal however as someone who grew up in Western Sydney (Parramatta, Baulkham Hills, Northmead) and went to Tafe in Mt Druitt for 3 years the first year full time its not about the "unfortunate situation" its about those that are unapologetical oxygen theiving, stealing my tax dollars,downright waste of space deadsh!ts and it just happens that there IS a huge concentration of THOSE type of people in Mt Druitt. Sad and sorry for those that live in Mt Druitt that are not like that (i have at least 5 good friends from the area that broke free of the stereotype) but the Air Bandits could just spontaneously combust and wouldnt be missed by anyone..
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The show seemed popular, look forward to seeing them /Cast at next years Logies. The other crap reality shows get invited,
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I get what you are saying and I agree in principal however as someone who grew up in Western Sydney (Parramatta, Baulkham Hills, Northmead) and went to Tafe in Mt Druitt for 3 years the first year full time its not about the "unfortunate situation" its about those that are unapologetical oxygen theiving, stealing my tax dollars,downright waste of space deadsh!ts and it just happens that there IS a huge concentration of THOSE type of people in Mt Druitt. Sad and sorry for those that live in Mt Druitt that are not like that (i have at least 5 good friends from the area that broke free of the stereotype) but the Air Bandits could just spontaneously combust and wouldnt be missed by anyone..
Lol, I went to my druitt take for 3 years, in the mid 90's. Was always an experience having lunch over at the shopping centre, and walking through the park to get there. Especially every Thursday fortnight as the dole office was just near there also. Lol
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Lol, I went to my druitt take for 3 years, ..............
i think that's the attitude many people complain about the locals having mate ;) ;D ;D
I watched the show last night on the link provided above, it wasn't to bad a watch i thought, hardly worthy of the media beat up it copped before it went to air.
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....... hardly worthy of the media beat up it copped before it went to air.
I totally agree.
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i think that's the attitude many people complain about the locals having mate ;) ;D ;D
I watched the show last night on the link provided above, it wasn't to bad a watch i thought, hardly worthy of the media beat up it copped before it went to air.
It's bizarre realy isn't it, Housos is actualy popular with the people it's portraying witch is basicly taking the piss out of them and minorities yet a documentary based on fact and the lives of people is viewed as degrading or insulting.
Maybe to many truths on display for the public at large to see
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I actually felt sad for these people. As a bloke that grew up on the "wrong side of the tracks" and made a committed effort in my mid teens to not die/become a drug addict or a professional dole bludger. What they need is more support & role models, if you have not been in that socio demographic you really do not understand the challenges that we take for granted. My initial thoughts after watching was how could I potentially help there plight, if more took the same view society would be better for it
Swannie
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I actually felt sad for these people. As a bloke that grew up on the "wrong side of the tracks" and made a committed effort in my mid teens to not die/become a drug addict or a professional dole bludger. What they need is more support & role models, if you have not been in that socio demographic you really do not understand the challenges that we take for granted. My initial thoughts after watching was how could I potentially help there plight, if more took the same view society would be better for it
Swannie
Very true mate :cup: :cup:
Young boys all have the ability to become good men ..the issue is that the way their brains work they need to be shown the way.. they are very much monkey see monkey do.. without sounding sexist.. most of the issue is centred around the young boys as if they change they generally take a girl/children with them on a journey to a better place.
I always say to my wife if we won 30mill in lotto I would set up a bush camp for troubled young men, where they could be broken down shown how weak their perceived strength is and built back up again...To which she replies "id be happy if you could get our 2 to tidy thier rooms" ;D ;D ;D
I take my hat off to people who have like swannie managed to escape from this cycle, I was fortunate to have a dad who worked 2 jobs and a culture that disrespects bludggers.
who knows what the answers are but handing out free houses and money has to stop... our country cant afford it for much longer, we are only 200 odd years old whos to say we will last another 200.
Jet ;D ;D
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Its all good. The lawyers have got involved and the family may sue. They'll make a mozza and secure their future . The family involved in the docco might even get some of that cash too.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/struggle-street-featured-western-sydney-locals-set-to-sue-sbs-over-their-portrayal/story-fnii5s3x-1227344685802 (http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/struggle-street-featured-western-sydney-locals-set-to-sue-sbs-over-their-portrayal/story-fnii5s3x-1227344685802)
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Feel sorry for that unborn child of the woman kicking the door to get at the 'cone'. Poor kid will be suffering withdrawal systems from the day its born and who knows the long term effects on its health. Not a good start to life and then having parents like that bringing it up :'(
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Its all good. The lawyers have got involved and the family may sue. They'll make a mozza and secure their future . The family involved in the docco might even get some of that cash too.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/struggle-street-featured-western-sydney-locals-set-to-sue-sbs-over-their-portrayal/story-fnii5s3x-1227344685802 (http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/struggle-street-featured-western-sydney-locals-set-to-sue-sbs-over-their-portrayal/story-fnii5s3x-1227344685802)
You would presume all involved signed a waiver agreeing to be filmed, but they will probably plead they couldn’t read ???
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Very obviously the family and others involved were approached by the legal teams, not the other way around.
But who put them up to it??
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/struggle-street-sets-ratings-record-for-an-sbs-documentary-with-131-million-viewers-20150507-ggw15r.html (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/struggle-street-sets-ratings-record-for-an-sbs-documentary-with-131-million-viewers-20150507-ggw15r.html)
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You would presume all involved signed a waiver agreeing to be filmed, but they will probably plead they couldn’t read ???
either that or the legal team wants their name up in lights.. fighting for the little people... knowing they wont win, but you cant buy publicity like this....
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Feel sorry for that unborn child of the woman kicking the door to get at the 'cone'. Poor kid will be suffering withdrawal systems from the day its born and who knows the long term effects on its health. Not a good start to life and then having parents like that bringing it up :'(
But they will always blame the govt, saying its their fault, and they need more money and sh!t....
With more money, she can buy more drugs....
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Didn't see the show but I have been the Druit plenty of times. We didn't live too far away and my mates Mrs was a hairdresser there.
There is no shortage of money there I assure you. Any time of the day any day of the week you will find the busiest shopping centre in Sydney. Always crowded. It's a gold mine for owning fast food take always like pizza and burgers (until you get robbed)
You might see a few car wrecks lying around but most of the cars driven by the residents are younger or more expensive than what most of us are driving.
Dumped crap and graffiti everywhere...
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You might see a few car wrecks lying around but most of the cars driven by the residents are younger or more expensive than what most of us are driving.
Dumped crap and graffiti everywhere...
The one the ice addicts girlfriend was driving looked alright. How much are they worth?
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i think that's the attitude many people complain about the locals having mate ;) ;D ;D
I watched the show last night on the link provided above, it wasn't to bad a watch i thought, hardly worthy of the media beat up it copped before it went to air.
Bloody stupid auto correct thing...... ;D
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Feel sorry for that unborn child of the woman kicking the door to get at the 'cone'. Poor kid will be suffering withdrawal systems from the day its born and who knows the long term effects on its health. Not a good start to life and then having parents like that bringing it up :'(
Dragged up on one t!t, and knocked half stupid with the other !
Hopefully the child turns out OK and breaks the cycle.
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Dragged up on one t!t, and knocked half stupid with the other !
Hopefully the child turns out OK and breaks the cycle.
It won't...
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It's like the guy that ran over his kid and killed it backing out the driveway and now wants it to be compulsory for every car in the country to be fitted with back up cameras.
Australia's one of the biggest nanny states in the world, probably the biggest. It's become to the stage where none wants to be responsible for anything and if they have to be they will sue you when it dosn't work out as planned. It's rediculous to expect aunt mavis to install 1000 bucks worth of reverse camera Shit or even 500 bucks in her 1974 toyota corolla just because you ****ed up and are living with the guilt and want society to share the blame. Rediculous. And the same mentality is rife in every facet of responsibility.sign an employment contract and while your oh officer is telling you he loves you and always has your signing the clause where he's just done biblical atrocities to your starfish
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They can't be to hard up, they still had money for life's essentials ...... Smokes, drugs, 2 day old servo food and Shitty coffee.
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They can't be to hard up, they still had money for life's essentials ...... Smokes, drugs, 2 day old servo food and Shitty coffee.
Isn't the nutrition triangle done perfectly?
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Lol, I went to my druitt take for 3 years, in the mid 90's. Was always an experience having lunch over at the shopping centre, and walking through the park to get there. Especially every Thursday fortnight as the dole office was just near there also. Lol
Ha Ha I was there in 83-84 and85 ..What were you doing having lunch at the shopping centre Oldmate the Major Druitt (Pub) was closer :cheers: