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Title: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: D4D on February 24, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
Can I suggest we implement an etiquette system in the for sale section. If you are not interested in buying the item for sale and have nothing of value to add then don't post. If you are asking a genuine question then post. The general section is for banter not the for sale ads.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: CRW on February 24, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
Agree  ;D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: POD on February 24, 2013, 04:06:06 PM
First up, I agree with you totally, D4D.

I believe this idea has been mooted a few times but sort of falls by the way-side after a few posts.

Maybe a specialised For Sale Moderator? If people aren't happy with comments, can request they be removed?

Maybe no posts can be made in a for sale thread except by the original poster? Any comms will be done only by PM?

Prefer the first idea, with a mod.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: speewa158 on February 24, 2013, 04:30:33 PM
D4D  What are you trying to flog off now  ??? l told you just ring me 1st if l dont want or cant use then post it up . Happy bbanter in any department is always the order of the day  :cheers:
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: jetcrew on February 24, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
Fully agree,,

best way as some other forums do..if the ad is not done with the template it is REMOVED..sure makes people pay attention.

I vote d4D as for sale shark. ;D ;D ;D

Jet ;D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: GGV8Cruza on February 24, 2013, 04:45:07 PM
I am quite happy to monitor the classifieds and generally clean them up as needed. Please shoot me a PM if you find something that does not suit your advertised item

GG
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: shrek4 on February 24, 2013, 04:47:45 PM
I agree, a moderator for the section to keep things on topic.

I'm happy to volunteer  ;D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Mace on February 24, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Agree, but can BHG's items be exempt?  8)

On topic.(sorta). 

For Vehicles and CT's, how about a $10 fee?  This is done on other forums (CTA). Would assist with  forum running costs.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: baldheadedgit on February 24, 2013, 05:53:20 PM
 8)  was getting worried there,,
Agree, but can BHG's items be exempt?  8)
On topic.(sorta). 

For Vehicles and CT's, how about a $10 fee?  This is done on other forums (CTA). Would assist with  forum running costs.

 :cheers:
Thanks Buddy   ;D
i think a little bit of fun is good for the thread, helps promote the item too. we can't be good all the time. :-*

BHG
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bird on February 24, 2013, 06:00:33 PM
Along with that, how about deleting threads that refuse to use the template?

Some ads are just impossible to read or make heads nor tails of.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on February 24, 2013, 06:05:52 PM

.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: POD on February 24, 2013, 06:15:50 PM

Okay, Okay ... I'm so sorry that I commented on the little blue car.   :'(

Kit_E

Yeah, good on ya Kit_e, you've ruined it for all the good kids!!
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: KingBilly on February 24, 2013, 06:22:53 PM
Whatever the mods and admin decide for the new rules/etiquette, don't forget to add them to the sticky about the thread rules.  No one can complain then if they are moderated.

KB
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: shrek4 on February 24, 2013, 06:24:43 PM
Along with that, how about deleting threads that refuse to use the template?

Some ads are just impossible to read or make heads nor tails of.

+1 to this!
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Snow on February 24, 2013, 08:04:17 PM
There is adequate direction for placing an advert in each section sticky. As for inappropriate posts in the classifieds or any section for that matter, the correct course of action is to report to moderator and it will be sorted.  :cheers:

Title: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: BigJules on February 24, 2013, 08:45:00 PM
I can cut and paste the template into its own sticky post I guess.

I think the template could use a tweak to read a bit better.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: cruisindub on February 25, 2013, 01:09:32 AM
Asking questions should be fine ......

Sometimes read the classifieds to get a feel for whatprices are, what's on offer etc.

Only having the seller posting wouldn't be of any benefit.

If a member has a rude comment, moderate it and explain why.

If a seller goes outside the general rule, hold it until the ad can be posted in a proper fashion.

We're all adults and of a sound disposition, surely we can all do the right thing ........
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: baldheadedgit on February 25, 2013, 04:11:41 AM
Asking questions should be fine ......

Sometimes read the classifieds to get a feel for whatprices are, what's on offer etc.

Only having the seller posting wouldn't be of any benefit.

If a member has a rude comment, moderate it and explain why.

If a seller goes outside the general rule, hold it until the ad can be posted in a proper fashion.
We're all adults and of a sound disposition, surely we can all do the right thing ........
Are you for real.?  ;D ;D


BHG
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Teabag on February 25, 2013, 06:16:57 AM
The part I find humorous is, some here in this thread are very guilty of what is laid in original post. So, I find it quite hypocritical to the point of humorous........:-)
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: xcvator on February 25, 2013, 06:38:28 AM
x234567 (incuding the op)  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: POD on February 25, 2013, 07:03:08 AM
The part I find humorous is, some here in this thread are very guilty of what is laid in original post. So, I find it quite hypocritical to the point of humorous........:-)

We do what we can to keep you entertained Mr T!!!
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bunyip on February 25, 2013, 07:56:13 AM
How about the possibility (not sure if it can be done) of not allowing an ad to be placed until the OP has a minimum number of posts in the forum's general sections?

Nothing worse than someone who joins to reach their target audience then either forgets their creds, or could not be bothered checking in again.

Bunyip
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: MDS69 on February 25, 2013, 08:26:03 AM
How about the possibility (not sure if it can be done) of not allowing an ad to be placed until the OP has a minimum number of posts in the forum's general sections?

Nothing worse than someone who joins to reach their target audience then either forgets their creds, or could not be bothered checking in again.

Bunyip

Bingo. I hate that.
Also another thing that gets my goat is a lot of new members don't post an introduction. I have banged on about this before but some common courtesy with an intro instead of jumping straight into flogging something off or wanting help for a problem. We are a friendly (usually) bunch.
Another forum I am a member of you can't post anything until you post in the introduction thread and can't post a for sale ad until it is approved by a moderator. I suspect this creates a lot of work approving posts and our mods and admin probably have a lot to do already along with their normal life. Maybe new positions can be created for these 2 roles. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bird on February 25, 2013, 09:03:24 AM
How about the possibility (not sure if it can be done) of not allowing an ad to be placed until the OP has a minimum number of posts in the forum's general sections?
this has all been done 5000000 times before.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: BigJules on February 25, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
Asking questions should be fine ......

Sometimes read the classifieds to get a feel for whatprices are, what's on offer etc.

Only having the seller posting wouldn't be of any benefit.

If a member has a rude comment, moderate it and explain why.

If a seller goes outside the general rule, hold it until the ad can be posted in a proper fashion.

We're all adults and of a sound disposition, surely we can all do the right thing ........

Yes!

Questions about items are fine to post in a thread.

Criticisms are not.

If you don't like a post, report it and we'll have a look at it.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: sschmez on February 25, 2013, 05:01:55 PM
bit of banter is a good way of keeping those posts bumped to the top.

I'd much rather contribute to banter( even if it's all rubbish) than read

Bump:

bump:

bump:

bump:

right through a thread

Stevo
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: POD on February 25, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Bump!

Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Paul (SA) on February 25, 2013, 05:27:42 PM
As long as it contributes to the thread and helps out other buyers - then I see no problems.

I also think it is encouraging to see others posting about your item in a positive way.... I hate selling, but it makes me feel better when you get a post about your item, even if it is only encouragement.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: deepop on February 25, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
Agree with Sschmez.   Sometimes can keep it bumped and provide interest.

Did you work at all today Stevo?
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: sschmez on February 25, 2013, 06:53:59 PM
Did you work at all today Stevo?

thats off topic, unfunny and lacking in etttiqqqueet.

Ummm not much, but I was working all weekend while you were using brand new vehicles to destroy bollards at campgrounds.

Have you delivered that stove and rangehood yet??
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: sschmez on February 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
thats off topic, unfunny and lacking in etttiqqqueet.

Ummm not much, but I was working all weekend while you were using brand new vehicles to destroy bollards at campgrounds.

Have you delivered that stove and rangehood yet??

Ooops. wrong forum, oh well....
probably threw a cat amongst the pigeons for those who don't know the facts :cup: :cup:

BUMP

 ;D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bird on February 25, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Now come on, thats enough unwarranted banter
Back to the real thread http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=27930.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=27930.0)
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: jetcrew on February 25, 2013, 08:13:52 PM
The part I find humorous is, some here in this thread are very guilty of what is laid in original post. So, I find it quite hypocritical to the point of humorous........:-)

True that I will put my hand up and wear one on the chin ;D ;D ;D

I guess when you see that nobody else is bothering with no ill effect then you follow suit. not an excuse I know, but hopefully a mitigating circumstance during sentencing ..LOL


Jet :D :D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: cruisindub on February 25, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
I'm intrigued now.......

What thread are you referring to?
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on February 25, 2013, 09:50:12 PM


..

Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Squalo on February 26, 2013, 12:04:07 AM
Along with that, how about deleting threads that refuse to use the template?

Some ads are just impossible to read or make heads nor tails of.

We implemented this at Patrol4x4.com a few months back and one of our mods has been totally ruthless with the razor - result, our classifieds are actually useable again.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Dragonfly on February 27, 2013, 08:26:02 AM
Agree - one of the other sites I belong to has a moderator purely for the For Sale section and every post (from the ad itself to all the comments) must be approved.

For a forum as active as this one, we may need a group of FS mods?  :police:
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: KingBilly on February 27, 2013, 09:32:38 AM
Just my 2c worth.  I'm happy for somebody to get on here and for their first, and maybe only, post to be in the classified sections.  I love looking at the classifieds and would hate to miss a bargain just for a "minimum number of posts before listing a for sale advert" rule.  But it may be clogging the server and the administrators may need such a rule to address this issue and I'm not going to argue with that.

KB
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bird on February 27, 2013, 10:11:38 AM
Quote from: KingBilly
Just my 2c worth.  I'm happy for somebody to get on here and for their first, and maybe only, post to be in the classified sections.  I love looking at the classifieds and would hate to miss a bargain just for a "minimum number of posts before listing a for sale advert" rule. 
that's been the outcome of this same discussion 500 times in the past..

My only additions would be

No Template - Thread deleted. Makes sure that all the info there.

No Contact/Mobile number - Thread deleted. People post up then piss off never to return and answer questions.

No ability to reply to the for sale thread: All to be done Via PM.. If the seller wants to update the ad with more info, he can. This works well on other forums.

All posts automatically deleted after 45 Days. Keeps it up to date.

Max of 4 Bumps before thread deleted and you have to resubmit. Keeps it tidy and relevant.



Theres no need for a special moderator.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: KingBilly on February 27, 2013, 10:23:07 AM
Agree with Lost ^^^^^

KB
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: GUEY on February 27, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
that's been the outcome of this same discussion 500 times in the past..

My only additions would be

No Template - Thread deleted. Makes sure that all the info there.

No mobile number - Thread deleted. People post up then piss off never to return and answer questions.

No ability to reply to the for sale thread: All to be done Via PM.. If the seller wants to update the ad with more info, he can. This works well on other forums.

All posts automatically deleted after 45 Days. Keeps it up to date.

Max of 4 Bumps before thread deleted and you have to resubmit. Keeps it tidy and relevant.



Theres no need for a special moderator.

 By template I hope you mean all relevant details INCLUDING PICTURES. If you really want to sell something put some effort in. Loading pics takes about 1minute and thats working of a phone.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Hairs on February 27, 2013, 01:03:35 PM
No mobile number - Thread deleted. People post up then piss off never to return and answer questions.
Well, not owning a mobile counts me out of every placing an AD in the Classifieds.
Quote
Theres no need for a special moderator.
Your right, no need for a special mod, if you see a post that doesn't comply or is inappropriate, hit the "Report to moderator"  tag at the bottom of the post. It will get dealt with as soon as a mod is alerted to the post.
Simple, the jobs done  ;D

 :cheers:
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bird on February 27, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: Hairs
Well, not owning a mobile counts me out of every placing an AD in the Classifieds

Everyone on earth has some form of contact phone number,
if they are that backwards they don't have any form of contact number they don't post :D  :police: :D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: evolution on February 27, 2013, 01:41:55 PM
Definitely agree with lost, i think it would make things a heck of allot easier to navigate.

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Teabag on February 27, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
Why do you have to have a contact phone number, you can PM for further info. I for one would be reluctant to splash my phone number about....Getting a little pedantic and over the top Ino..

Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: CRW on February 27, 2013, 02:33:48 PM
Why do you have to have a contact phone number, you can PM for further info. I for one would be reluctant to splash my phone number about....Getting a little pedantic and over the top Ino..

Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2

I agree Paul, Most people will have a email address and all will have PM so why do you need a mobile No or Land line contact posted on the forum.  Contact Numbers can be exchanged at the seller/purchasers discretion. Ebay and the likes do not require a Contact number to be displayed

Some like their privacy.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: MarkGU on February 27, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
can anyone point in the direction of the For Sale section......there is too much chat in this one  ;D
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Bird on February 27, 2013, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: Teabag
Why do you have to have a contact phone number, you can PM for further info. I for one would be reluctant to splash my phone number about....Getting a little pedantic and over the top Ino..

As I see it, there are regularly things put up for sale that end up with 10 questions, but the owner never replies, or comes back.
People PM them, and you see I've PM'ed you but no reply, or post up "is this still forsale"?

They surf the googles looking for forums and places to post their item (this goes for anything, camera, trains, bikes, boat forums) posts it, and goes away.
They would never know what websites they have uploaded them.

I just see it as a courtesy. Twas just a thought that's all. :)

PS, One more thing

MARK IT AS SOLD WHEN ITS GONE. which the 1 post member who sold it on one of 54 other forums wont do :(
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Mrs smith on February 27, 2013, 02:41:49 PM
Only problem I can see with the for sales area is inappropriate posts in others
threads / adds, report to mod takes care of that, but those people guilty of this
should learn to self discipline them selves.
Or maybe it's just post whoring, having to have an opinion on everything.
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Teabag on February 27, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
Only problem I can see with the for sales area is inappropriate posts in others
threads / adds, report to mod takes care of that, but those people guilty of this
should learn to self discipline them selves.
Or maybe it's just post whoring, having to have an opinion on everything.

:-)......Licken what your stampin........:-)
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: KingBilly on February 27, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
post whoring, having to have an opinion on everything.

I like that.  Whoops, just guilty of it myself  ;D

KB
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: Hairs on February 27, 2013, 06:34:32 PM
Everyone on earth has some form of contact phone number,

LOL, Nice edit  :cheers:
Title: Re: For Sale ads etiquette
Post by: speewa158 on February 27, 2013, 07:01:23 PM

..
& then some  but only a bit more than expected or not,, as the case may be  :cheers: