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......will he have to pay FBT.....??
Maybe the NSW Labor Party will pick up the tab for that, too. Have these people no moral compass?
It will be amusing to hear how he explains himself.........if he does.....
Interesting times.........
Cheers,
Geoff
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I would like to borrow his credit card for a few days......add some more items to it ;D
Mark
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I would like to borrow his credit card for a few days......add some more items to it ;D
Mark
I hear it's accepted all over......and it sometimes gets used by others...... ;D
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I think it is funny that he is still proclaiming his innocence - so FWA and their 1100 page report showing 156 breaches are wrong are they Craig????
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I think it is funny that he is still proclaiming his innocence - so FWA and their 1100 page report showing 156 breaches are wrong are they Craig????
.....what odds that he's suddenly "ill" on the day he's to explain himself to the house......(stress leave, maybe)
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It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. Not looking good for him.
The HSU saga is getting worse and worse.
And who suffer from all this? The members.
Union official sacked for encouraging workers to speak out about the Union leadership.
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It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. Not looking good for him.
The HSU saga is getting worse and worse.
And who suffer from all this? The members.
Agreed. But.......if it wasn't so bad, it'd be funny.
eg.......Williamson trying to smuggle documents out of the HSU office while the police were there...........how dumb (or arrogant). A smart thief would have removed any incriminating evidence years ago.....maybe he thought he was "protected".
eg......Thomson saying someone else must have used his card, while his licence number and photo were part of the evidence....
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He is only the start of the corruption throughout all political parties and unions. To think this is only Labor or HSU corrupt official then you would be pretty naive. All those senior politicians not taking action, you all know who they are just as corrupt. No integrity within any of them. Both political parties in this country are beyond bad......They lack vision and integrity.......That simple....
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He is only the start of the corruption throughout all political parties and unions. To think this is only Labor or HSU corrupt official then you would be pretty naive. All those senior politicians not taking action, you all know who they are just as corrupt. No integrity within any of them. Both political parties in this country are beyond bad......They lack vision and integrity.......That simple....
:o.........never..........
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Yes Minister ;D how true .......love that show.
Mark
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Hope they were good whores, and didn't suck....well maybe suck :)
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Don't get me started! What a joke.... Had some really bad union experiences with cfmeu reps and state sec. Total job for the boys.. Thompson just one with a union card that loved ho's!
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Hopefully he'll get collared and do some time. The DPP are still able to act despite what Tony and some media sources reported, depending on whether FWA can get their act together.
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Use to be a member of HSU until a few years ago, could see how morally bankrupt they where becoming then, so gave myself a $25 dollar a fortnight pay rise..........
Cheers
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Wont it be funny to watch when at some stage in the time to come the Karma buss will back over him . Then the nurses will be able to draw straws as to which will get the frozzzzen bed pan for him ., or who will cut the buzzer wire by mistake . Ohhh yes it will happen .
Never piss off somebody that has to look after you . To be clear a female nurse with long memeries as best not upset ,,,,,,,,, EVER ,,,,,,, . Are you with me boys >:D
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Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely..... >:(
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Dont be surprised if he tops himself before hand >:(
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I wonder if there will be an underbelly story about him...its got the ingredients
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Dont be surprised if he tops himself before hand >:(
Unfortunately, this is a very real scenario
Lifeline 13 11 44
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Nobody's addressed the original question, yet............ ;D
After years of investigation and media attention, the honorable Mr Thomson now claims that he was set up.
He'll need to provide some solid evidence and name names.
I hope he's got a better defense than that........ ::)
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FBT.....Fancy Brothel Tax ;D ;D
Yep the labor party will cover for him. What a grub. if that were a normal person, we would be locked up.
Cheers!!
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FBT.....Fancy Brothel Tax ;D ;D
Yep the labor party will cover for him. What a grub. if that were a normal person, we would be locked up.
Cheers!!
He's lucky it isnt Texas, his partner would have removed some of his ahh....anatomy, and put it through the Kenwood chef!
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Sadly nothing willl happen.
He will get a slap on the wrist and told to pay it back if your lucky, no interest, no FBT, no ****in nothing.
The opposition will huff and puff for a week or 2, then Shit will just go away.. it always does.
Tops himself, meh, who cares
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Sadly nothing willl happen.
He will get a slap on the wrist and told to pay it back if your lucky, no interest, no FBT, no ****in nothing.
If he does get charged with fraud then there is proceeds of crime action to recover the money. They will (should) restrain his assets once he is charged so a smart fellow would get rid of everything now.
He doesnt meet the definition of a smart fellow though - in the dictionary he is next to HomerJ ;D
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I can't believe his attempt to explain it! Somehow his credit card, license and phone were all used by someone else in an attempt to set him up - and somehow he knew nothing about it? ???
I would love to see the rat locked up but it will never happen. I wonder where he will work after politics? Assumably the unions will be closed to him, and he would be no good at honest work. I suppose one of the "boys" will find him a cushy job somewhere out of the public eye >:(
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One thing I don't get is,
He is no longer a Labor MP, he is an independent, so why isn't a bi election called? The voters in his electorate voted for him because he was affiliated with the ALP.
Now he is a Indo shouldn't there be a bi election?
Can someone explain this please, I don't understand. ???
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One thing I don't get is,
He is no longer a Labor MP, he is an independent, so why isn't a bi election called? The voters in his electorate voted for him because he was affiliated with the ALP.
Now he is a Indo shouldn't there be a bi election?
Can someone explain this please, I don't understand. ???
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It's not the first time it has happened, does the name Cheryl Kernot ring a bell.
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It's not the first time it has happened, does the name Cheryl Kernot ring a bell.
Yeah, she did the same, swapping ships.
Tony Windsor was another?
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It's not the first time it has happened, does the name Cheryl Kernot ring a bell.
I think that this matter should be dealt with in two ways. FIRST. If it is behaviour contrary to what is required by a minister then as a discipline situation it is & should be dealt with like a civil litigation & judged on the balance of probabilities....that is "it may have happened,it could have happened" and the buden of proof is basically a lot less than a criminal matter were the accused is innocent until proven guilty & any eliment of doubt goes in favour of the defendant. What THOMPSON is doing is throwing doubt on the accusations by declaring "Yes. I do not deny it was my phone & my credit card but it wasn;t me" What his accusors need to do is produce photographic evidence (CCTV footage) or one of these "Ladies" to give a signed sworn statement then he is sunk but I would suggest this hasn't occured there is no HARD evidence hence his defence....there will be no sustance to his demise....there is already been a major delay by FW Aust. (gee I wonder who instigated the go slow?!!!) Thompson may gracefully sail off into the sunset & when Wayne & Jules have a good majority to form Govt he will be of no further use just like Pete the peep!!!
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Two subjects that are fraught with danger on these forums are Politics and Religion. Don't think Craig Thompson or the Labour party has Camper Trailers ??? ???
Cheers
Carl
PS, oh yes and the Electrical Section :D :D :cheers:
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......................What his accusors need to do is produce photographic evidence.............
Would his drivers licence suffice.........??
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Two subjects that are fraught with danger on these forums are Politics and Religion.
Very true Carl,
I'm hoping that we are all bigger enough to respect others opinions, have our say and know when to back away, just like as if we were standing face to face and not make it personal.
Because after all, we all back different horses.
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. Don't think Craig Thompson or the Labour party has Camper Trailers ??? ???\
he may have ordered one on his credit card though
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If he does get charged with fraud then there is proceeds of crime action to recover the money. They will (should) restrain his assets once he is charged so a smart fellow would get rid of everything now.
He doesn't have any assets, the labor party gave him loans to stave off bankruptcy last year or before.
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He doesn't have any assets, the labor party gave him loans to stave off bankruptcy last year or before.
Doh!
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He doesn't have any assets, the labor party gave him loans to stave off bankruptcy last year or before.
that must be why he always looks so smug and who gives a Shit.
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Shouldn't this whole thread be in the joke section ???
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I come to this site for My Swag discussion, I really don't care for views on politics or politicians when I'm thinking about getting away from it all.
When I want to read political views and wallow in such tripe I go here http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/ (http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/)
I think politics and religion should be banned subjects here(sex I'm OK with) :D
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I come to this site for My Swag discussion, I really don't care for views on politics or politicians when I'm thinking about getting away from it all.
When I want to read political views and wallow in such tripe I go here http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/ (http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/)
I think politics and religion should be banned subjects here(sex I'm OK with) :D
Wow that political forum is worth looking at. Our electrical section is nothing compared to that forum. ;D
Mark
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Has there been any details on whether the hookers are male or female? This could open up a whole different slant on things.
On a slightly different matter, if Penny Wong and Bob Brown got married, would that be a gay marriage?
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Something to think about....
If I was to be accused of miss-using $500k of my employer's funds, I would be out on my Ar$e and if found innocent have to fight it in unfair dismissal, yet a pollie keeps his job on full pay.
If I were to steal $500k from a bank, I would be elligable for the presumtion of innocence, however, my liberty would almost certainly be taken away until such time as I was found innocent, again a pollie keeps his liberties and pay packet.
Is this one rule for some and another for others???? Almost to the point that some of the pollies should no longer get the respect of the title "the Honorable".
Cracka
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Is this one rule for some and another for others???? Almost to the point that some of the pollies should no longer get the respect of the title "the Honorable".
Cracka
Agree, just like when Carl Scully(NSW Minister for Police and then the health minister) ripped into the nurses for whistle blowing and next thing you know he is to be known as the Honorable Carl Scully.
Bloody disgraceful.
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I thought we didn't "do" politics (or religion) on this forum? Or have the rules been changed?
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Jesus was into camping (and fishing and boating).
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And hung around prostitutes.
;D
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Did anyone hear this on Sydney radio today? http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_homepage&id=63&Itemid=25 (http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_homepage&id=63&Itemid=25) Click on " Presenters and Shows" then " Weekday Presenters" then "Ben Fordham" then "Craig Thompson's version of events." Things may be finally coming to a head.
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Did anyone hear this on Sydney radio today? http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_homepage&id=63&Itemid=25 (http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_homepage&id=63&Itemid=25) Click on " Presenters and Shows" then " Weekday Presenters" then "Ben Fordham" then "Craig Thompson's version of events." Things may be finally coming to a head.
Cant stand that fordham fellow but loved hearing an old time detective talk about thompson. He is spot on though, the d's will eat him alive :cheers:
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If as he claims has been fitted up by the " unoin or who ever " to ruin his political life , then l want to know Why ???. Just what did he do to whom for them to reek such revenge . Or is that just a smoke screen to hide the mirrors with .
In my experance you tend to live a longer happier life if you dont p15s off nurses
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Just look at it as training for his job as a pollie. What he was paying $x/hr to do to 1 person we are now paying him far more to do it to the country....
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Jesus was into camping (and fishing and boating).
Good fisherman by all accounts, I like where this thread is heading.
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Maybe Thompson was trying to buy votes for Juila . Though all he had been taught is to screw the job up . >:D
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I like where this thread is heading.
It's becoming a bit like a car accident, I don't want to look, but I can't not!!
:cheers: Cracka
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It's becoming a bit like a car accident, I don't want to look, but I can't not!!
:cheers: Cracka
I'm really liking the fact that politics are not really coming into it, we are all playing the man. :cup:
It could have gone pear shaped a long time ago, but everyone is playing nice.
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I'm really liking the fact that politics are not really coming into it, we are all playing the man. :cup:
It could have gone pear shaped a long time ago, but everyone is playing nice.
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Agreed..........'cos it's about wrong v right.........not left v right..........
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Maybe he should have understood the technology he was talking about before he talked about it...
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/thomsons-hightech-conspiracy-claims-questioned-20120522-1z1w4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/thomsons-hightech-conspiracy-claims-questioned-20120522-1z1w4.html)
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Great story teller
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... yet somehow after talking for an hour, he still didnt say a ****in thing.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6yHnNtwjAwE/RqCwz7XqElI/AAAAAAAAA5A/3Wq_9Aa9b5w/s400/CRAPblog.jpg)
and a lot of
(http://kineticchainspecialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/question-2546403.jpeg)
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He said there would be tapes....................................... Hmm that could be interesting to say the least!
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Loved the tears - give that man an Oscar
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Loved the tears - give that man an Oscar
The tears were BS. He was actually showing disgust on his face at the time which would indicate disgust at his behaviour as opposed to anger at what had occurred.
I think he believes the story though. :cup:
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I think he believes the story though.
And then some.
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And then some.
What did George Costanza say; "its not a lie if you believe it" ;D
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What did George Costanza say; "its not a lie if you believe it" ;D
And gillard ???
She'll go along with that.
;D
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Whilst I personally think he is lying through his teeth but he is innocent till proven guilty. He will have his day in court to prove his so called innocence. This is trial by media and not nessesarily fact......
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He will have his day in court
And this might be a long way away.
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And this might be a long way away.
True, but we only hear what the media want us to hear. The power of the media is very strong and with what happened in the UK with News of the World, nothing would surprise me. The older I get the more cynical I become......:-)
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We're all disgusted because deep down we KNOW he will get away with it.
He won't do time and he won't have to pay pack a cent. At worst he'll have a to wait a year or two before getting another government job.
:-[
schmik
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Whilst I personally think he is lying through his teeth but he is innocent till proven guilty. He will have his day in court to prove his so called innocence. This is trial by media and not nessesarily fact......
I tend to agree with you Teabag, but to have his day in Court he has to be charged with something but his may never happen, or it may be delayed to the point where, for the most part, it becomes irrelevant. Two States are investigating but no charges yet. Fair Work Australia should have turned this investigation over to Police long ago.
Eric.
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The older I get the more cynical I become......:-)
You're not alone there mate.
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Who's Craig Thompson, what sort of camper does he own and what does he tow it with?
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Who's Craig Thompson, what sort of camper does he own and what does he tow it with?
........and how did he pay for it all.........?? ;D
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Who's Craig Thompson, what sort of camper does he own and what does he tow it with?
The new "Union 250K" towed by an escort
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We're all disgusted because deep down we KNOW he will get away with it.
He won't do time and he won't have to pay pack a cent. At worst he'll have a to wait a year or two before getting another government job.
:-[
schmik
(http://saraduffeyartistry.web.officelive.com/images/hit-the-nail-on-the-head.jpg)
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The new "Union 250K" towed by an escort
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Question on Q&A last night to a CIA whistle blower and advocate against 'enhanced' interrogation techniques : "Do you reckon you'd be able to get the truth out of Craig Thompson?". Wrong but funny.
Also on the show was a Russian writer/dissident who talked about life under a Putin dictatorship. She was amazed at the big deal that was being made out of a relatively small issue. She said that in Russia being elected to public office meant that you no longer needed to be accountable for your actions, whereas here a speeding ticket is enough to bring you unstuck. She also said how envious she was of such a clearly healthy democracy where a politician was obliged to stand up in front of the country and explain his actions (no matter how poorly).
So to the people thinking that an unethical politician, or a disputed (by some) election means that our political system is f$%ed, wake up to yourselves. The shock jocks and deliberately divisive elements of the media would like everyone to believe that the country is going to hell in a hand basket (ratings), but the truth is we live in one of most stable and healthy democracies in the world. The whole debate over Craig Thompson is simply a sign that things are going well. If he's found guilty he should go to jail with the other thieves, no question (and maybe a couple of other squeaky clean HSU high ups as well).
I'm not saying that things are perfect. Just saying that I think that calling the whole democratic process into question over one d@%khead is over the top.
Bugger, I was just acknowledging Dazzlers escort joke and had to shoot my mouth off ;D
FM
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All this time when stuck in a hard place l have tried to BS my way out of troble , wrong . Blame soimebody else , the cat or the dog or that bloke on the stop/go sign just blame somebody . The mod should go running after them & leave you alone . & Plan B is >:D
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So to the people thinking that an unethical politician, or a disputed (by some) election means that our political system is f$%ed, wake up to yourselves. The shock jocks and deliberately divisive elements of the media would like everyone to believe that the country is going to hell in a hand basket (ratings), but the truth is we live in one of most stable and healthy democracies in the world. The whole debate over Craig Thompson is simply a sign that things are going well. If he's found guilty he should go to jail with the other thieves, no question (and maybe a couple of other squeaky clean HSU high ups as well).
The sad thing is that if we didn't have a minority government at the moment this wouldn't have even made the news. These kinds of scandals happen all the time, if we had a majority government this would have been swept aside and the media would not have cared.
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Just saying that I think that calling the whole democratic process into question over one d@%khead is over the top.
I don't recall anyone calling the whole democratic process into question. ???
Labor themselves have hounded people out of office for less than what this grub has been up to. No "innocent until proven guilty" then. This germ justifies why I have refused to ever join a union, even when face to face and harassed by officials.
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If this was in the hands of a previous Queensland ?? Government, they would just change the statute of limitations on crime a, and crime b so that they will be up a week before the finalization of any charges against a particular subject.
The above story is complete fiction and any resemblance to actual people or parties is purely by complete coincidence or accident.
;D
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Question on Q&A last night to a CIA whistle blower
poor choice of terms while talkin about blowing money on hookers.
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This bloke Thompson is a bloody legend!
How many other pollies could organise an orgy in a brothel?
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This bloke Thompson is a bloody legend!
How many other pollies could organise an orgy in a brothel?
Any one with a platinum credit card!
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A picture says a thousand words.
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& Sir Les Patterson always said " Don't bung them on the celluloid" :cheers:
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Apparently A Current Affair paid an escort $60000 for her story on sleeping with him. I wish they would have come to me first!!! I would have confessed to anything with him too for that sort of money. Could have done some really cool mods to the camper with that moolah.
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Apparently A Current Affair paid an escort $60000 for her story on sleeping with him. I wish they would have come to me first!!! I would have confessed to anything with him too for that sort of money. Could have done some really cool mods to the camper with that moolah.
Yes, does question the validity of her story? Why does she come forth now, 60000 good reasons........
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Yes, does question the validity of her story? Why does she come forth now, 60000 good reasons........
She's a whore, why should we expect high moral standards now?
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Well, I for one believe his story.
I've also learnt that the tooth fairy dances around down the bottom of my garden and pixies live in my attic.
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Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm133.htm (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm133.htm)
This should apply to pollies as well. I don't give a rats about having an eye witness. His conduct is clearly unacceptable to be a representative of the people. We need to pass something like this "Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman" for politicians. This SHOULD be a law.
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“Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
Elements.
(1) That the accused did or omitted to do certain acts; and
(2) That, under the circumstances, these acts or omissions constituted conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman.
Explanation.
(1) Gentleman. As used in this article, “gentleman” includes both male and female commissioned officers, cadets, and midshipmen.
(2) Nature of offense. Conduct violative of this article is action or behavior in an official capacity which, in dishonoring or disgracing the person as an officer, seriously compromises the officer’s character as a gentleman, or action or behavior in an unofficial or private capacity which, in dishonoring or disgracing the officer personally, seriously compromises the person’s standing as an officer. There are certain moral attributes common to the ideal officer and the perfect gentleman, a lack of which is indicated by acts of dishonesty, unfair dealing, indecency, indecorum, lawlessness, injustice, or cruelty. Not everyone is or can be expected to meet unrealistically high moral standards, but there is a limit of tolerance based on customs of the service and military necessity below which the personal standards of an officer, cadet, or midshipman cannot fall without seriously compromising the person’s standing as an officer, cadet, or midshipman or the person’s character as a gentleman. This article prohibits conduct by a commissioned officer, cadet or midshipman which, taking all the circumstances into consideration, is thus compromising. This article includes acts made punishable by any other article, provided these acts amount to conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. Thus, a commissioned officer who steals property violates both this article and Article 121. Whenever the offense charged is the same as a specific offense set forth in this Manual, the elements of proof are the same as those set forth in the paragraph which treats that specific offense, with the additional requirement that the act or omission constitutes conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman.
(3) Examples of offenses. Instances of violation of this article include knowingly making a false official statement; dishonorable failure to pay a debt; cheating on an exam; opening and reading a letter of another without authority; using insulting or defamatory language to another officer in that officer’s presence or about that officer to other military persons; being drunk and disorderly in a public place; public association with known prostitutes; committing or attempting to commit a crime involving moral turpitude; and failing without good cause to support the officer’s family.
Lesser included offense.
Article 80—attempts
Maximum punishment .
Dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for a period not in excess of that authorized for the most analogous (similar) offense for which a punishment is prescribed in this Manual, or, if none is prescribed, for 1 year.
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mike
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Despite the picture posted above, I believe the guy has the right to the presumption of innocence and the right to a trial. I find it difficult but not impossible to believe his version of events but it is not up to the Federal Opposition, or us to convict him with out a trial.
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Fair work Aus has found he has done so much wrong. He is not a gentleman!
I say we grab our pitch forks and form a mob.
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Fair work is like the local council that wants to sell you home from under you because they claim you've not paid your rates for years.
The council has to prove this in a court. You get a chance to provide a defence, and then a judge or magistrate actually decides your fate. Not the frothing council debt collector who might see a juicy financial gain in dispossessing you of your home.
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TOPNDR, Would you let him marry your daughter?
I agree with you that all of these 'departments/councils' are as dodgy as each other. I just hate to see a thief walk free. Even if he did not spend all that money, we know the money went missing. And what did he do about it?
It's just a shame that honest folk get ripped off in all of this.
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Who's Craig Thompson, what sort of camper does he own and what does he tow it with?
Hee Hee, thats cute.....
But to be serious ............( and a concerned nurse )................. when is his next mental health appointment?
I'm not sure if he knows it, but someone close to him must know that they need to try and get him some help.
the sad, the mad and the bad......which is he ????
The family must have some insite ...
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TOPNDR, Would you let him marry your daughter?
I agree with you that all of these 'departments/councils' are as dodgy as each other. I just hate to see a thief walk free. Even if he did not spend all that money, we know the money went missing. And what did he do about it?
It's just a shame that honest folk get ripped off in all of this.
G'day schmik,
No I wouldn't want my daughter to marry what I think he is. BUT and it's a BIG BUT, I wouldn't make a decision on that until I knew him.
AND with regards to the current furore, at present there are only allegations. Not until he's charged with an offence and found guilty, will there be any certainty for the multitudes hanging and quartering him.
It's a bit like the war in Iraq. So many were in agreement because the pollies of the day, and the media of the day, and much of the populace of the day, all took at face value the claims, never justified before or after, that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
The world, and Iraqis particularly, have paid an enormous price, in lost life, buggered lives, and financially, because too many were ready to charge in without ANY PROOF, or ANY TRIAL.
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In theory I agree about the trial and innocence.... but in in real life???
I am not sure that the people running the investigation or the judges or fair work australia etc etc are impartial.
Unfortunately the judges, the police force, etc are all funded by the public purse provided by the GOV'T of which he is a part.
He is alleged to shave acted in a way that is 'above the law' and he very well may be above the law.
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OK OK OK - so I slept with him too....now where is my $60k from Channel 9?
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I am not sure that the people running the investigation or the judges or fair work australia etc etc are impartial.
And the people calling for his hanging and quartering are impartial?
Let's change the name of the alleged perpetrator to schmik. Would you still agree to being found guilty. Or believing yourself to be innocent, would you expect a chance to prove it?
IMHO one can't agree in theory about the right to a trial and the presumption of innocence, and then deny it to someone with NO ESTABLISHED OR PROVEN FACTS, just allegations.
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The people calling for him to see justice are probably more impartial than the people who aren't going to deliver JACK SQUAT.
Where there's smoke, there's fire!
And it being about me...I did not decide for a career serving the public. If he was squeaky clean this would not be happening.
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This 'good' ladies story, $60,000 or not, means nothing.
He is quite entitled to visit her as he pleases.
How he pays for it is another matter altogether.
I cannot see her having evidence of the credit card transaction, etc.
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What I find more abhorrent than anything is the fact that the ALP must have had some idea of the dodgy stuff happening with Mr. Thompson (and Peter Slipper), but for the sake of maintaining their position as the governing party, they sink to any depths to do so. The LNP only distanced themselves from Peter Slipper when it was convenient to do so, once they were in opposition. If the ALP were in opposition at the moment, I wonder how quickly this issue would have resolved itself?
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Yes, does question the validity of her story? Why does she come forth now, 60000 good reasons........
it doesnt add any credibility either way... But surely they would have realised this...
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it doesnt add any credibility either way... But surely they would have realised this...
Correct, so what's the point of the story? Sensationalism by media and A Current Affair is a master of crap journalism........Waste of 60k if you ask me. I would have said it for 20k.......:-)
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Correct, so what's the point of the story? Sensationalism by media and A Current Affair is a master of crap journalism........Waste of 60k if you ask me. I would have said it for 20k.......:-)
BINGO!
same here... although I'd have started at 60g's...
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just got this one
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/labour.jpg)
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WOW 5 pages of discussion. Me I could not give a rats %&*$ about him or any politician. They are like a disease it takes 3 years to find a cure for it and then a new disease is formed and then another 3 years to get rid of that also. ???
I have better things to worry about like getting 25 cars through the OTL ;D ;D
Mark
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WOW 5 pages of discussion. Me I could not give a rats %&*$ about him or any politician. They are like a disease it takes 3 years to find a cure for it and then a new disease is formed and then another 3 years to get rid of that also. ???
I have better things to worry about like getting 25 cars through the OTL ;D ;D
Mark
Quoting Billy Connelly "Don't vote for any of them, It only encourage's them"
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Quoting Billy Connelly "Don't vote for any of them, It only encourage's them"
:cup:
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This; Awkward Interview with "The Dictator" on Live TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BlazElwPkA#ws)
sums it up well!
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AND with regards to the current furore, at present there are only allegations. Not until he's charged with an offence and found guilty, will there be any certainty for the multitudes hanging and quartering him.
Even your Prime Minister dumped him from the Labor Party due to the smell emanating from him. I'd say she'd have some good oil on what's really going on. He's dirty. He should leave. Remember, Labor hounded GG Hollingworth out of office for simply not acting soon enough on child abuse allegations against some one else. At least he had the dignity and respect for his office to resign while it was sorted out.
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Yeah look for years ive heard everyone put down the polaticians saying that" they couldnt organize a r##t in a brothel" BUT when one comes along and proves that he can u all put Shit on him .
SHAME SHAME SHAME ;D
CRAIG
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Of course this may be a complete furphy, but this whole show stinks and methinks some do protest far too much.
He might not even be a nice person but he has been investigated a real lot and yet no charges have been laid.
Certain groups are doing there best to attain power and they are speaking solely with that aim on mind.
Believe Peter Wicks or not but there are some interesting points raised?
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-and-jackson-5-sticky-fingers/ (http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-and-jackson-5-sticky-fingers/)
Also it has conveniently put the whole Abbott, Pyne, Brough, Bishop and Ashby issue into the background - funnily enough the Thomson saga also has a link to the Ashby / Slipper story.
Perhaps we, especially the pollies and the media, should take some medication and let due process take its course?
Put yourself in Thomson's position - especially if you have done nothing illegal.
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Of course this may be a complete furphy, but this whole show stinks and methinks some do protest far too much.
He might not even be a nice person but he has been investigated a real lot and yet no charges have been laid.
Certain groups are doing there best to attain power and they are speaking solely with that aim on mind.
Believe Peter Wicks or not but there are some interesting points raised?
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-and-jackson-5-sticky-fingers/ (http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-and-jackson-5-sticky-fingers/)
Also it has conveniently put the whole Abbott, Pyne, Brough, Bishop and Ashby issue into the background - funnily enough the Thomson saga also has a link to the Ashby / Slipper story.
Perhaps we, especially the pollies and the media, should take some medication and let due process take its course?
Put yourself in Thomson's position - especially if you have done nothing illegal.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting read and does put another spin on the whole thing......She may be as dirty as Thompson, shock, horror........
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It wouldn't surprise me if Thomson wants to resign and give it all up, but he has some back room Labor thugs with a metorphorical gun to his head telling him if he dares resign or confess the truth his life is as good as over. I think he wants to admit everything but is not being allowed to. It's a typical trait of the ALP and fits their DNA in politics.
I think he has backed himself into a very dangerous corner and now can't escape either way.
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As long as he is still around, people will talk about him and the kerfuffle.
Not the carbon tax. They are not fools...
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IMO
Classic case of being the "Master's apprentice" she's screwing the hole country at once, and his doing it whore at a time.
It's about time they started doing something for the people of this great country, they all need to stop bickering and b!tching and get on with implementing some policies not just new taxes.
Pft... "Politics" is the business of talking about things while studying the art of how to avoid actually doing anything.
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Well according to one of my workmates its all BS, he's never been able to find a brothel that takes credit cards (and gives them back)
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Even your Prime Minister dumped him from the Labor Party due to the smell emanating from him. I'd say she'd have some good oil on what's really going on. He's dirty. He should leave. Remember, Labor hounded GG Hollingworth out of office for simply not acting soon enough on child abuse allegations against some one else. At least he had the dignity and respect for his office to resign while it was sorted out.
Who's Prime Minister? So we have a different Prime Minister for each political persuasion now do we? Buy the way, the GG was never in "Office", he was appointed by the Prime Minister of the day.
Everybody take a deep breath before you pop a poofer valve. Does all this CT nonesense really matter to the population at large.
I'm sure most people couldn't give a damn. I think most people who were subjected to the workplace harrasement this guy has been subjected to might be taking a trip to a lawyer.
Innocent until proven guilty. Most people subscribe to that ethic, or have we decided otherwise.
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I think that there is enough proof around to find him guilty.
Trevor
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I'm sick of hearing about it ...... Just go away
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I'm sick of hearing about it ...... Just go away
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xxxx3
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Put yourself in Thomson's position - especially if you have done nothing illegal.
Coming from a legal background I agree. However, being fit to represent his electorate is different to committing a criminal offence. The big one for me came when he spoke about the garbage tv channel paying the pro to tell all.
Notice he didnt simply say words to the effect of = "go ahead bitch. Lie and I will sue you. Because it never happened so you are a liar"
Simple hey. Instead we get the "are you trying to push me over the edge line"
He should have stood down when the allegations first surfaced as they all should, regardless of which political trough they eat from.
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He should have stood down when the allegations first surfaced as they all should, regardless of which political trough they eat from.
With this attitude anyone could say anything against any politician and then they would have to just stand down even though they may well be completely innocent?
Don't get me wrong - I think in 'this case' that there are way too many questions that are not answered and in 'this case' yes he should step down - but Labor won't let him as that will be the end of them - sooner rather than in 15 months.
But to say that any politician should step down as soon as any allegation is made against them I don't think is fair, unless/until there is overwhelming evidence against them. However, if they 'know' they are guilty then that is another matter and then yes they should step down immediately.
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Craig Thomson is one of three things
1: Guilty as hell
2: Innocent and therefor completely incompetent
3: Something in between 1 and 2
In any of these cases should he be in public office? in my opinion 'No' but at present he is and he has the right to stay in that office until he found guilty and sentenced to more than a year in prison. If that doesn't happen he can sit in his office for as long as he likes as the laws of the land will keep him safe.
I wonder if the Public servants that have been fired for credit card miss use where charged by the police and went to court? The details in the Fair Work Australia report are not 'allegations' they are 'Findings' they will be allegations if he is charged with them. I may be completely wrong here as I do not have a legal background but that is how I see it.
My 2 cents
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With this attitude anyone could say anything against any politician and then they would have to just stand down even though they may well be completely innocent?
Don't get me wrong - I think in 'this case' that there are way too many questions that are not answered and in 'this case' yes he should step down - but Labor won't let him as that will be the end of them - sooner rather than in 15 months.
But to say that any politician should step down as soon as any allegation is made against them I don't think is fair, unless/until there is overwhelming evidence against them. However, if they 'know' they are guilty then that is another matter and then yes they should step down immediately.
I did say 'allegations' - plural.
In other words when there is a heap of stuff then yeah, step down. You are not admitting guilt just that its better for the govt, or opposition, to remove the distraction. The other thing is though that they should pair off when it happens to take the political numbers game out of it.
But it is an awful parliament atm. Wouldnt wont to vote for any of em. :cheers:
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I'm sick of hearing about it ...... Just go away
I agree.......and also it is important to note that he is just a humble countrymember!
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Dont be under the illusion that things would be any different if the government position was reversed, with Abbott as the PM of a minority government, and one of his Lib/NP members under exactly the same scrutiny as Thompson.
In the scenario I've put above, there's no chance the LNP would allow their man to succumb to the pressure, and in doing so bring down the minority government either!
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Dont be under the illusion that things would be any different if the government position was reversed, with Abbott as the PM of a minority government, and one of his Lib/NP members under exactly the same scrutiny as Thompson.
In the scenario I've put above, there's no chance the LNP would allow their man to succumb to the pressure, and in doing so bring down the minority government either!
Agree whole heartedly.......grass is not always greener on the other side....
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At risk of dragging this thread up to the sewerwhere it should never even aspire to get thqt high, I just have to rant a little.
What a joke our Parliament is.......
todaas shamble reminds me of eastern European Parliament's minus the fisty cuffs and foreign language, or this south Americans that set fire to themselves, ours is just laughable.
I rant over this as today I received the obligatory postcard in the mail reminding people to enrol and 'compulsory' vote.
What chance of a clear futtre.
Itsquite worrying.
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I rant over this as today I received the obligatory postcard in the mail reminding people to enrol and 'compulsory' vote.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/15-million-potential-voters-go-missing-20120528-1zf99.html (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/15-million-potential-voters-go-missing-20120528-1zf99.html)
People just dont trust or like the system.
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I thought I was going to read a joke... the whole saga is a joke........
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Now the courts will decide...
Fair Work Australia has begun court proceedings against federal MP Craig Thomson over his alleged use of union credit cards to pay for prostitutes.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/thomson-to-face-court-over-alleged-prostitute-splurge-20121015-27mkf.html (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/thomson-to-face-court-over-alleged-prostitute-splurge-20121015-27mkf.html)
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Geeeeeezzzzz the way Fair Work works it could be many years before even finish reading the breif , let alone trying to make a ,, umm ,, arrrrr a decision :cheers:
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Vermin!!
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1st up against the wall come the revolution 8) :cheers:
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I got all excited then.
But
it is only civil action
:'(
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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/15-million-potential-voters-go-missing-20120528-1zf99.html (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/15-million-potential-voters-go-missing-20120528-1zf99.html)
People just dont trust or like the system.
All I can say is, if for no other reason, by not voting you give up your right to whinge about the outcome.
I'm quite proud of our electoral system. No one gets shot, there's no blood in the streets, it's all pretty peaceful and invariably we get the government we collectively deserve.
Yes, even this one.
Damo
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Double pumped the send. Sorry!
Damo
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There is no doubt that we do live in the best country and have incredible freedoms and rights.
The trouble is that our current politicians have completely lost reality and at each election we do not have much choice.
It appears to become a politician you need to be one of the following;
1. Need to be rich.
2. Need to be a solicitor or barrister.
3. Need to be a union leader.
And don’t forget you need to be able to tell lies without any sign of guilt.
That absolute disgraceful parliament where Gillard attacked Abbott and she became a hit around the world and her popularity increased - what the hell!!!!! And don’t get me wrong, I am not standing up for Abbott. Sack all of them and let’s start fresh. Sorry, it just all makes me so mad that they all just act like spoilt little kids at a time when we need good leaders. >:(
Kevin
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****in shoot him.. the staff he was robbing are people on min wage.
he deserves nothing.
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Take it easy. I agree with your reasoning for why he doesn't deserve anything, but no need to advocate violence.
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It appears to become a politician you need to be one of the following;
1. Need to be rich.
2. Need to be a solicitor or barrister.
3. Need to be a union leader.
And don’t forget you need to be able to tell lies without any sign of guilt.
well, telling lies comes with the territory for at least the second 2
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Bring back the DEMOCRATS
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And to further add on the note from UIZ733 that he is just a humble countrymember
I remember >:D
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That absolute disgraceful parliament where Gillard attacked Abbott
She's just returning fire!
Putting the factual implication aside...I was quite amused by it :laugh:
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Federal MP Craig Thomson has been arrested at his electoral office.
Members of the NSW fraud squad on Thursday executed an arrest warrant on behalf of the Victorian Fraud and Extortion Squad.
Victorian detectives flew to Sydney this morning where they accompanied NSW police to Mr Thomson's Central Coast electoral office.
The Victorian police have spent almost 18 months investigating claims that Mr Thomson improperly used Health Services Union funds to spend on prostitutes, air travel, entertainment and cash withdrawals in excess of $100,000.
Mr Thomson was charged by virtue of the arrest warrant with a fraud offence.
A further 149 fraud charges are expected to be laid against the 48-year-old when he appears in Wyong Local Court.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/craig-thomson-arrested-by-fraud-squad-20130131-2dmnn.html#ixzz2JW9F4YyX (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/craig-thomson-arrested-by-fraud-squad-20130131-2dmnn.html#ixzz2JW9F4YyX)
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Maybe he was just trying to help the prostitutes with the benefits of his wisdom
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Wonder who/which union is paying for this round of costs :))
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even more interesting that the boss lady called an election date 24 hrs before the cops arrested him
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"even more interesting that the boss lady called an election date 24 hrs before the cops arrested him"
Very, Very interesting !!!!
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even more interesting that the boss lady called an election date 24 hrs before the cops arrested him
There are no coincidences in politics.............
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There are no coincidences in politics.............
Do you Reckom ..... >:D.................. Hang On A Bit ... >:D........ Hillery Clinton , has had medical problems ( so they say ) & is wearing Glasses to speak , but not read >:D then Julia is doing the same to talk as Hillary but not of truth as she shuld do . 225 days of B%^& S!@# to follow Oh & bwho has been arested Today
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Lock him up and throw away the key along with the rest of his labor party mates
BRING ON SEPTEMBER 14 NOW
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Maybe he was just trying to help the prostitutes with the benefits of his wisdom
once he plugged his adapter into the hooker her IQ would have dropped.
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Just trying to look at the situation from his perspective. Most morons don't realise they are morons.
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There have been many comments that are degoratory to one one our fine countries duly elected and respected people. He is a good family man, a credit to his wife and children, a good politician looking after his constituents, and a church goer. And now that some despicable bastards stole his credit card, kidnapped him, skun his body and wrapped the pelt around a pile of dog turds, and dragged into a few brothels just to make Ms Gillard look bad, he is being criticised and charged.
What is the world coming to????
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I wonder if he has this as his ringtone on his mobile:
SHAGGY - IT WASNT ME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is#)
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I think he might need to invest in some soap on a rope ;D ;D >:D
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I think he might need to invest in some soap on a rope ;D ;D >:D
Marie Callender's Corn Bread - You Gonna Eat Yo Cornbread? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xMmjpvlfBU#)
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He is taking his advice from Lance Armstrong.....
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There have been many comments that are degoratory to one one our fine countries duly elected and respected people. He is a good family man, a credit to his wife and children, a good politician looking after his constituents, and a church goer. And now that some despicable bastards stole his credit card, kidnapped him, skun his body and wrapped the pelt around a pile of dog turds, and dragged into a few brothels just to make Ms Gillard look bad, he is being criticised and charged.
What is the world coming to????
was getting worried there for a minute.. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :cup: