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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: speewa158 on March 24, 2012, 05:52:26 PM
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The QLD Pole is very interesting on many levels .Lots of shreaders doing there thing as the results roll in . Any thoughts :cheers:
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They're all a bunch useless puppets to the brainless advisers behind the scenes. >:(
Give me someone that has foresight and commitment to making things better, instead of the big ego trip.....look at me...
look at me attitude shown be them.
This is my feelings towards both state and federal politicians in this country. >:(
Foo
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Foo good point where are we going to find that type of polly ,,,really ,,, . ??? ???
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What is the difference between QLD Labor and a tarago?
Tomorrow the tarago will still have 8 seats!
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Foo good point where are we going to find that type of polly ,,,really ,,, . ??? ???
Is that a redundant question Speewa?
Very hard to find at the moment.
Guess it is up to the voters. Do you vote for someone that has no chance of being elected and place your preferences so they go to your preferred Poly at the end of the day? Just give them a message.
They might be too thick skinned or arrogant to notice though.
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I think qlders may come to realise that sometimes its better the devil you know...
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BY BY BLIGH - Buggered up Queensland , sold everything. How, with our booming mining industry could we be broke?
Useless labour party. Bring on the federal election..
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Labor has ignored the electorate for too long, it was only a matter of time.
The only reason why they stayed in for so long was that the opposition was so bad.
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Doesn't matter who you vote for, a politician always gets in.
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It's gonna be interesting with so many newbs in the parliament.
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I think qlders may come to realise that sometimes its better the devil you know...
Not a chance mate. As the results will show tonight, we've had a gutfull of Labor. I voted Bob Katter as a least he had some forethought for this state. I knew LNP would make it anyway but Katters party has the best values and integrity.
That's my opinion anyway (and probably a fight starter ;D).
Cheers
Wes
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I don't think it's people wanting to now vote for LNP , it's people not wanting to vote for Labor .
Another person / Party with the right promotion could have taken a few seats off the LNP I reckon .
I wish Katter was a better ( normal ) person , and he would have got more votes . Why is it the people with the right everyday ideas are the strange ones ( Katter , Hanson ... )
Why wasn't the Camper Trailer Party started up ?
A good point I just heard , is that people no longer know what the Labor party stand for . That I believe as 6 years ago I became a contractor , and thought it would be ok , as Labor looks after the workers , and after those 6 years , I now realise they couldn't give a stuff about what's happening to the workers / contractors out there .
I just hope Gillard realises that this isn't just a don't like Bligh thing , it's a don't like Labor thing .
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BY BY BLIGH - Buggered up Queensland , sold everything. How, with our booming mining industry could we be broke?
Yes that is a very good question, incompetence.
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I just hope Gillard realises that this isn't just a don't like Bligh thing , it's a don't like Labour thing .
I would imagine there are some very serious meetings going on in Canberra tonight, both NSW and Qld now becoming massacre against Labour. At the end of the day the egos will win out and they will believe the voting public still loves them ??? ??? ???
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Why wasn't the Camper Trailer Party started up ?
Ute701 for Premier, at least we will have some good jokes rather than the jokes in Government
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A good point I just heard , is that people no longer know what the Labour party stand for . That I believe as 6 years ago I became a contractor , and thought it would be ok , as Labor looks after the workers , and after those 6 years , I now realise they couldn't give a stuff about what's happening to the workers / contractors out there .
I just hope Gillard realises that this isn't just a don't like Bligh thing , it's a don't like Labour thing .
Do you reckon this is a barometer for every state and the federal election?
Even the local solicitor who is a stalwart labor supporter voted liberal today....that is saying something.
Cheers Nomad.
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BY BY BLIGH - Buggered up Queensland , sold everything. How, with our booming mining industry could we be broke?
Useless labour party. Bring on the federal election..
because the mining industry has been sold overseas....
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Yep.. had a gutfull of the Labor lies and incompetence....time for a change......
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89 seats in total, currently 77 to LNP, 4 to KAP & Independents, leaves 8 to Labor. That is a flogging.
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I love how Labor were going on about 'don't give Newman too much power'.
The problem in QLD is there is no upper house, so it doesn't matter if you hold government with a majority of 1 or 20, you still can do whatever you want.
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The same will happen in the next SA state election too (which can't come too soon). Labor has sent us bankrupt with many white elephant projects including a new hospital built on a toxic waste dump, a desal plant that doesn't work, rezonong of prime agricultural farming land to resedential so their developer mates can build 000's of new homes with no infrastructure, a super highway that doesn't do anything to ease congestion, plus selling forest rights for 100 years for only 15 years worth of income, and finally us being the highest taxed state in the nation.
What is it with Labor?
I am sure after the next few states have their elections plus the next federal election the whole country will be Liberal, and they will be forced to make unpopular decisions to pay off the massive debts left behind, and these unpopular decisions will over time get them voted out and the whole cycle starts again!
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Can I just point out poll is spelled POLL, not pole. Labor is spelled LABOR, not labour. :police:
Couldn't stand Labor either, but this result is just plain scary. Newman is an arrogant little Hitler and has so much power now it's sickening.
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Thanks Cootha, didn't want to say, but thanks. >:D
Might I add that all this politics is getting in the way of the important business at hand. Let's talk about religion or something ::)
Hopefully this Qld government will pay their insurance premiums.
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yehah put my lazy $1k on LNP and got back my additional $100........ easiest and surest $100 bucks I ever got!!!
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Labor has ignored the electorate for too long, it was only a matter of time.
The only reason why they stayed in for so long was that the opposition was so bad.
And the Opposition are sooo good now, I don't think so. The stench of Labor was too strong to stomach again so people voted LNP. To be honest and IMO they are both shyt......Just people have not experience the LNP stench for some time and have short memories.
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I just love the irony that ch 7 has finished their telecast of the voting and is now showing the movie " Castaway " .... :laugh: :laugh:
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I love how Labor were going on about 'don't give Newman too much power'.
The problem in QLD is there is no upper house, so it doesn't matter if you hold government with a majority of 1 or 20, you still can do whatever you want.
Sorry Symon, wrong again. It's not that simple. If the opposition are soooooo weak as they will be, come question time the LNP will not be held to any justification or rigor. Yes, they have the votes but with such a weak Opposition they won't have the intense questioning via the opposition to where, what and how......it is dangerous IMO having a Political party sooooo strong........
Watch this space, Newman is not going to be the savior. He is a slimy as the rest.....No, I'm not pro Lib or Lab.....Just a disgruntled Australian/Queenslander at the shyt, over Governed BS. Federally, I hope Labor lose for one reason, Smith to lose Defence Minister.The most Arogant tool in politics and if I was Commodore Kaffer, I would sue his arse.......
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I don't think it's people wanting to now vote for LNP , it's people not wanting to vote for Labor .
Another person / Party with the right promotion could have taken a few seats off the LNP I reckon .
So So True
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Sorry, but I cannot see the difference, we all know how to tell if a politician is lying....their mouth is moving.
Just my opinion
Tjupurula
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Funny that people think that Qld elections are a sounding board for the rest of the country. Maybe the only time that Australian politics get international airplay due the crazies that get voted in.
O:-)
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I was always taught never to argue politics or religion....I have now added electrical opionions to that list ;D ;D
Mark
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About 50 years ago on a Saturday night, aged 18, I first enjoyed congress with a young lady.
Well, last night was the best Saturday night since then, watching Labor get absolutely bloody shredded. In fact, it was better than sex.
I hope Juliar was watching, becos that's what is going to happen federally. Bring it on!
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Long time between drinks then old digger! Wouldn't want Julia in my own wank bank, but each to their own O:-)
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Not a chance mate. As the results will show tonight, we've had a gutfull of Labor. I voted Bob Katter as a least he had some forethought for this state. I knew LNP would make it anyway but Katters party has the best values and integrity.
That's my opinion anyway (and probably a fight starter ;D).
Cheers
Wes
Not at all, i voted katter too. Cant support labour after their mismanagement and know too much about newman to vote for him.
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Isn't katter the federal member? Just checking.
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Yes Fridge, Federal Member for Kennedy in Nth Qld..
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And the Opposition are sooo good now, I don't think so. The stench of Labor was too strong to stomach again so people voted LNP. To be honest and IMO they are both shyt......Just people have not experience the LNP stench for some time and have short memories.
As has been said before, people didn't vote for the LNP, they voted to get Labor out. If the LNP had a decent leader they would have been turfed out last election, the only difference this time is they got a leader who is popular in the SE corner. And if you are popular in the SE corner you will run the rest of the state.
Sorry Symon, wrong again. It's not that simple. If the opposition are soooooo weak as they will be, come question time the LNP will not be held to any justification or rigor. Yes, they have the votes but with such a weak Opposition they won't have the intense questioning via the opposition to where, what and how......it is dangerous IMO having a Political party sooooo strong........
How is that any different when Beattie romped in with a landslide back in 2001? The opposition only had 15 seats then.
Labor never took any notice of the questions being fired at them from the LNP either! Ever seen footage of question time? It is a joke, and they treat it as such. Howard was a classic at doing it at the federal level, he would field a question, and totally ignore it when he gave his 'answer' - how could he do that? Because he controlled both houses at the time.
Like I said before, the problem with the QLD system is there is no upper house, so no 'double check' of legislation that comes through. This is why such major and controversial legislation (forced council amalgamations, asset sales etc) pass so easily up here - there is no system to keep the government in check.
Regardless if you are aligned to the left or the right, the opposition in QLD means nothing regardless if you have 10 seats or 44.
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Federally, I hope Labor lose for one reason, Smith to lose Defence Minister.The most Arogant tool in politics and if I was Commodore Kaffer, I would sue his arse.......
Don't forget conman Conroy and his out of dae NBN
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While the argument on politics is one I prefer to avoid, I'm no fan of either major party, and prefer to be a swing voter.
My concerns is the rate at which our country is being sold off to foreign countries.
Our farmlands, water rights, food security, mines, properties all being flogged off at a fast rate to overseas foreign interests, with bugger all control.
This worries me alot and I don't see much being done, even NZ has better legislation in place than us when it comes to foreign interest groups buying up land.
Campfire
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Definitely agree campfire. We are very lacks in this dept and by the time they do anything, itll be too late. Why not increase/introduce tax of overseas ownership of rural land, or only lease to foreign investors....
Even with the mining tax (which should be more) australia still rates as one of, if not the, most profitable countries to do it in.
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While the argument on politics is one I prefer to avoid, I'm no fan of either major party, and prefer to be a swing voter.
My concerns is the rate at which our country is being sold off to foreign countries.
Our farmlands, water rights, food security, mines, properties all being flogged off at a fast rate to overseas foreign interests, with bugger all control.
This worries me alot and I don't see much being done, even NZ has better legislation in place than us when it comes to foreign interest groups buying up land.
Campfire
X 2 agree
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While the argument on politics is one I prefer to avoid, I'm no fan of either major party, and prefer to be a swing voter.
My concerns is the rate at which our country is being sold off to foreign countries.
Our farmlands, water rights, food security, mines, properties all being flogged off at a fast rate to overseas foreign interests, with bugger all control.
This worries me alot and I don't see much being done, even NZ has better legislation in place than us when it comes to foreign interest groups buying up land.
Campfire
Campfire ... I think you just voted for the "Katter Australia Party" ... like I did. Yes Anna did a great job through Jan11 ... didn't want Baldie running the joint (goodness me he'll be drilling Brisbane under for years to come) ... I thought Katter at least had a better agenda that was at least believable. His winning statement for me was "stop selling off our assets to foreign companies who get the benefit from what has taken hard working Aussies generations to build and pay off", followed by "say no to carbon tax".
I think the only thing getting roasted around here yesterday was the Labor party. Next major roasting, Qld under a LNP management.
Kit_e
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Sorry Kit Kat,
Didn't vote cause I'm from NSW, and we don't see much of Bob Katter this Side of the border...
Campfire
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I'm just sorry that we weren't already back home and able to vote labor out....finally. The only reason they got back in last time in my opinion is that LNP hasn't had anyone worth us giving them a go, so it has been better the devil we knew (or most of us at least...not me). Glad to see labor go and will keep my thoughts in the positive for Newman for now and wait and see.
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While the argument on politics is one I prefer to avoid, I'm no fan of either major party, and prefer to be a swing voter.
My concerns is the rate at which our country is being sold off to foreign countries.
Our farmlands, water rights, food security, mines, properties all being flogged off at a fast rate to overseas foreign interests, with bugger all control.
This worries me alot and I don't see much being done, even NZ has better legislation in place than us when it comes to foreign interest groups buying up land.
Campfire
yep x a zillion and I voted for the katter member and he very nearly got in with over 30% and there's only 700 votes in it
troy
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I heard on the news this morning Queensland is now 85 billion dollars in debt! It is still AA rated, the lowest in the country. How can that be? What happened to the money from the sale of the railways etc?
Another point I heard was that how come Peter Beattie, the former Qld premier who mysteriously quit and then got a very nice job in the USA, was doing lots of TV reporting, with his big smug grin, during the election, when he is the one who started the mess QLD is now in. What a hide! He was the one who privatised the electricity suppliers and said prices would come down. What a joke.
And now Anna said she is quitting. Another lie? She promised during the election that no matter what happens she will see her term out. Yep, shock horror, she told a lie.
But I do love the fact that in this country we do have the right to vote and we can say what we think about our leaders. It is great when political parties get voted out; it shows we can achieve great things. Let’s hope all politicians learn from the Qld result, but it does take a lot to get through to them. We can only hope. Kevin
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WOW...a political discussion, as opposed to argument...impressive people :cup:
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I feel a little sorry for Captain Bligh, I think she was handed a dud from Perfect Pete, It will be interesting how Can Do handles $85 Billion in debt with no assets.
We might be in for some nasty tax increases if we want to get out of jail, and then there is the Wivenhoe Dam claim hanging over our heads.
Did Can Do say he will control our cost of living expenses ?.
Regards
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Newman has made a good start.
Told Bligh's husband he can keep his job if he unwinds the green crap he's put in place in the last 4 years.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/campbell-newman-assures-job-for-anna-blighs-husband-greg-withers-asking-him-to-undo-work-of-past-four-years/story-fnbt5t29-1226311500919 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/campbell-newman-assures-job-for-anna-blighs-husband-greg-withers-asking-him-to-undo-work-of-past-four-years/story-fnbt5t29-1226311500919)
Rod
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Another point I heard was that how come Peter Beattie, the former Qld premier who mysteriously quit and then got a very nice job in the USA, was doing lots of TV reporting, with his big smug grin, during the election, when he is the one who started the mess QLD is now in. What a hide! He was the one who privatised the electricity suppliers and said prices would come down. What a joke.
Yep , I was disgusted to see that as well .....
And I see on the news tonight the same fellow smiling away as his wife is now on the list next month for Lord Mayor of Brisbane ... yeah .. right !
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Maybe the cynic in me but I don't trust any politician until they prove their worthiness of that trust. Yet to trust any of them. Hence, Newman to me at present is just hot air. Give it time and he will take back one of his promises, they all do.......
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Sorry, but I cannot see the difference, we all know how to tell if a politician is lying....their mouth is moving.
Just my opinion
Tjupurula
Now ain't that the truth !!
And how about this idea
ALL politicians must have a legally binding contract to pay for the by-election that results from them resigning from parliament within 12 months of the last election for ANY reason
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Politicians so untrust worthy.......not like honest real estate agents ;D
Incoming...
Mark
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Politicians so untrust worthy.......not like honest real estate agents ;D
Incoming...
Mark
Gotta nice 2nd hand car I can sell ya, only just run in at 900K. Only driven to church on Sunday by a little ol lady
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One of the other things that annoys the piss out of me about pollies is when asked a question. They never truly answer it as the dance, tip toe around the truth......Where is one that just says, I don't know the answer but will get back to you. We can't honestly know or remember everything, we are human.....Just get back with a TRUTHFUL answer later when known.......