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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tjupurula on March 22, 2012, 02:11:39 PM
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Hi Swaggers
Given this is a general discussion area, I hope to get some good tips on weight loss.
I knew at Christmas time, when one of my daughters bought some bathroom scales that actually tell you your weight that I was in trouble. My daughter got on and it said her weight, my son in law got on and it said his weight, then I got on and it actually said “One at a time please”. My daughter forgot to tell me it only went to 100kg, and she grabbed the machine, as I damned near picked it up and threw it out. Technology with an attitude.
Regards
Tjupurula
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I cant even remember the last time I got on a set of scales, but I am damn sure it would have read over 100kg. I have not been less since I was mid teens or earlier.
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I'm just so proud of my Tony, his weight is down to 109kg since xmas(he can't remember when he was that weight last). His weight loss was given a bit of a boost when he had an unexplained bowel obstruction, but being able to keep his weight down for last 8 weeks is a major feat. Go my main man Tony ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D cheers rellbell
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My wife has been on the Michelle Bridge's program to get back to her original weight after the wto kids and I have joined her due to my midriff getting a bit soft and wide. I am not big (was only 72 kg to start with) but found that with following the food plan which is basically set at 1800 calories a day for blokes based on a diet of lean meat, salad and vegetables. We also cut out the carbs from pasta, bread and potatoes, stopped putting margerine/butter on any bread we did eat and used spray oil instead of a few tablespoons of oil when cooking. It was overwhelming measuring and counting everything at first but soon became normal until now we know what stuff is worth so don't bother measuring so much.
I registered at www.livestrong.com (http://www.livestrong.com) (free) and use it to track my food, there is also lots of good information there. We also started excercising and the weight has fallen off. I have lost 8kg in around 10 weeks which I would not have believed was possible given my size and have now changed my profile on livestong to build my weight back up again, just not the soft floppy type of weight ;D
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Forgot to add, no alcohol (or other non water drinks), which will be a big one for many on here however given we are not big drinkers it really made no difference to us.
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Another member and I used to work for Tony Ferguson Weightloss.
To lose weight one needs to consume less energy than one uses. Remove as many carbs as you can from your diet; sugar, bread, rice, potato and other starchy veges. Go nuts on the green veges and have some protein, a palm sized piece of meat for instance.
You don't need meal replacements but they sure help a lot people out in the mental battle.
Excercise is not essential for weight loss and can in fact make it harder, as both diet and excercise can be hard work. Excercise is essential for good health though.
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The good wife lost 20kg through metabolic balance. (Look it up) it was developed in Germany. My wife had to lose weight for her endometriosis, she can have no more operations. Since dropping the kgs,the cysts have slowed down and see has no pain.(at times,intense)
I stupidly joked that if she lost the 25kg she wanted to, I would buy her a Harley. Around 18kg she warred looking and dragging me to bike shops.now I have to think of an excuse to delay that purchase.
sometimes an incentive ask helps. Notonly the health and well being benefits.
Good luck.
Weight loss begins with a change of your mindset first, change they way you think about food/eating/exercise.
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if u wanna lose weight its simple......
Just cut back on what u have to eat...dont eliminate everything that u love but know is bad.....
And the main thing is step up your training.......
If u walk 1 kay now..walk 3 kays..and faster.....
If u swim 500 metres...swim 700 metres...etc etc....
Just burn more than u injest and u WILL lose weight
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I lost 22kg's in 7 months - and I have managed to keep it off for 13 months now. On 1st Sept 2010 I weighed 104.6kg's with a waist of 111cm. On 7/3/2011 I weighed 82.6kg. I weighed myself this morning and was 82.8kg and I have a waist of 94cm.
What I did:
- Drank a biddon (cycling bottle) full of water prior to every meal (You become a piss monster but after the first month once you have passed the threshold of what you are doing is now becomes a habit you can drop the one prior to the evening meal) I also had only water except for an oj with my breakfast.
- Reduce your portion sizes and don't go back for seconds. I used to eat 5 WeetBix in the morning, I cut this back to 4. I always used to go back for seconds at dinner but stopped that. I also used to eat a bowl of cereal just before going to bed. I cut this down to once a week.
- I stopped eating KFC, Hungry Jacks, Chicken and Chips for lunch which I used to have twice to three times a week.
- I didn't alter anything else, didn't not eat potatoes or anything like that and just did the above and it worked.
Every fortnight I would allow myself 1 KFC meal (or Hungry's or Chicken and Chips) as to go cold turkey is impossible and it gives you something to look forward to in the early stages so you can keep on track with what you are supposed to be doing. Then as you start seeing results you don't even want to eat this crap anymore - I am down to once a quarter now!!
Now that the weight is off this is how I've maintained it:
- Still don't eat the crap as per above
- Still don't go back for seconds at dinner and still very much watch my portion sizes
- I now eat my bowl of cereal every night but I eat it alot earlier - no eating after 7.30pm
- I have one glass of orange juice with my breakfast, every other drink is water (and maybe a hot chocolate 2 to 3 times a week)
Exercise does make a difference: During the summer months I cycle up to 1000km's a month, but I wouldn't lost much weight - but I that was until I adjusted my mindset. It is not ok to go and eat a chocolate donut just because I had done a 100km ride. Once I accepted this then the weight did start to go more rapidly.
Finally, I weighed myself every Monday morning when I got up. This kept me on track over the weekends. Over the whole six months, there were 4 weigh-ins where I actually weighed more than the week before and 1 where I lost nothing at all, but I had been told that this would happen, and just made me more determined for the next week to watch my eating habits (and that's what they become - habits!!).
I kept a record every week of how much I had lost (for the week and total) and it was great seeing the progress.
Good Luck!
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Another member and I used to work for Tony Ferguson Weightloss.
oooo.. i got a mention!
Drinking water is one of the greatest tools you can use to lose weight.
If you are hungry, and it's not meal time, drink some water. not only is it good for you, it will help push away that hunger.. you will have the funny side effect of peeing lots though.
Cut your portion sizes down, slow down your eating, and eat less fatty foods and sugars. 15-20 minutes after you've eaten, if you are still hungry, have some water, if you are still hungry, have something very small.
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I dont know about weight loss programs I just know I like to eat and not be hungry all the time.
I lose about 15kgs ... ( about every two years I do this) 105 to 90kgs 185cm 40+
I just remove all carbs except rice and potatoes occassionally
all dairy except low fat milk
meat every night ( seafood 90%) and all the veges and fruit you want( snacks)
( oops no beer)
Takes me about 10 weeks .
(basically you get rid of all your processed foods/ bad fatty foods).
its not hard just different food...
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I work in I.T. so I do a lot of "SITTING ON MY ARSE" and travelling to regional sites is just more of the same... I left IT several years back before meeting my partner and I was working on our family farm up the Mallee and I was fit as a fiddle though when we left the mallee for Bendigo to start our family and I returned to working in I.T. it was not long before I had gone out in sympathy as they say to my partner who was pregnant with twins and yes I put on several yoko twins.. so I know how it feels to be fit and at a good weight only to put it on again.
Recently I under took a workplace health check and then started to make several changes in my eating habits just to make a start and I could tell that I had lost a little weight in doing so and the scales showed this though I would love to loose a lot more... so I'm interested in what others have tried and tested.. I do like the life be in it advertisement on the tv swap more for less and as BigJules said with veggies and small palm size portions of meat a change in diet will make a big difference to start with.
ehh my 2cents ;D
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Another member and I used to work for Tony Ferguson Weightloss.
To lose weight one needs to consume less energy than one uses. Remove as many carbs as you can from your diet; sugar, bread, rice, potato and other starchy veges. Go nuts on the green veges and have some protein, a palm sized piece of meat for instance.
You don't need meal replacements but they sure help a lot people out in the mental battle.
Excercise is not essential for weight loss and can in fact make it harder, as both diet and excercise can be hard work. Excercise is essential for good health though.
BigJules
Meal replacements are not an option, as I do live in the Great Sandy Desert, and our nearest Supermarket is an 8 hour drive on a good day. I have spent up a bit, and bought one of those exercise bikes, and I am doing about half an hour every night, still on setting number 1, but it is better than nothing. I am enjoying that part (exercise) as although it is not "stripping" the weight off me, I am finding walking a lot easier after almost two months of exersising.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi Cruisindub and Wholehog
Thanks for sharing the advice, I am writing down a lot that I am reading, and I will be putting some things together to format something for myself. Sticking to something is not the problem, distance to getting fresh vegies and the like can be a problem, but theb rain is starting to drop, so I may be able to drive to Kununurra more often, or send the son in law for shopping.
Regards
Tjupurula
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It seems one recurring theme here is drinking much more water, and that is something that I do not do enough of. Oh I drink plenty of water, but it usually has some yeast and other ingredients in it that turn it amber. My goodness, life without amber fluid has me suffering the ducks and drakes just thinking about it, but I guess some sacrifices must be made.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi,
drinking about 500mL of water before a meal will help you feel satisfied with less food.
Cheap, easy, effective in cutting food intake with out hunger pangs.
cheers
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I love my donuts but rarely eat them. I am only a small person and dont have a weight issue. My partner is a fitness freak and her regime is exercise, excersise, excercise. Eat plenty of vegies and cut down on carbs. No alcohol especially beer. Get rid of sweets if you have after tea time. Go fr regular walks and get inspired by biggest loser. Best of luck
Wayne :police:
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It seems one recurring theme here is drinking much more water, and that is something that I do not do enough of. Oh I drink plenty of water, but it usually has some yeast and other ingredients in it that turn it amber. My goodness, life without amber fluid has me suffering the ducks and drakes just thinking about it, but I guess some sacrifices must be made.
Regards
Tjupurula
Check the livestrong site I metioned, as part of the daily food count there is a water tally. I find if I do not use it I don't drink the required amount, I would be lucky to drink a glass of water a day when I don't make a concieous effort to do it.
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My wife and I have been doing Weight Watcher Pro Points. I have dropped from 105kg in mid September to 88.3kg last weekend. I'm not being anywhere near as careful as I was but am still going down. I am lighter than I have been for 20+ years.
The things that the programme teaches you are:
portion size, we generally eat far too much and you soon adjust to smaller portions;
you can eat as much as you want of the good things - veggies and fruit to a certain extent so there is no need for you to go hungry;
exercise gets you bonus points to use for other things!
yes, unfortunately you have to watch the amount that you drink but you can still enjoy a few drinks every week.
I was perfectly happy at the weight that I was but was nagged persuaded to do it and I fell much better now.
It works, if you take it seriously and are committed to following the programme but it is not torture, you just adjust you life and after a little while it becomes second nature.
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I already wrote one massive reply about this today, don't feel up to shortening it for the forum right now. I topped out at 155kg at the start of last year, was still 145kg in October, was under 130kg by Christmas and I'm now 118kg.
The diet I went on actually made me eat more than I used to and I'm full and more satisfied for longer than I ever was eating whatever I wanted.
Actually here, originally written for an email, got a bit carried away with the word count (I wasn't given a limit)
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=6fd5eb85d16d32e0&resid=6FD5EB85D16D32E0!189&parid=6FD5EB85D16D32E0!104 (https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=6fd5eb85d16d32e0&resid=6FD5EB85D16D32E0!189&parid=6FD5EB85D16D32E0!104)
If you skip to about the 2nd page it starts actually talking about what I did rather than what lead up to doing it.
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Another thing people tend to overlook is the portion(s) of food to the time of the day.
If you're quite active during the day, good size breakfast & lunch. Night time is mostly a case of just sitting around, you're not burning much energy, so don't eat big!
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Hi
What an inspiring thread. :cheers:
After I got crook about 4 years ago I put on about 15kg and could really notice it. Over the past 8weeks I have dropped from 94.5 down to 88.2 by reducing my food intake. Smaller plates/bowls at dinner and stick to a piece of fruit and a sandwich during the day.
We have free range chooks so twice a week my wife and I will have two poached eggs on a panini roll :cup:
I think we are all different so different things work. I also get the impression that as you get older you need to ease back on the quantities.
Good luck to everyone.
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I love my donuts but rarely eat them. I am only a small person and dont have a weight issue. My partner is a fitness freak and her regime is exercise, excersise, excercise. Eat plenty of vegies and cut down on carbs. No alcohol especially beer. Get rid of sweets if you have after tea time. Go fr regular walks and get inspired by biggest loser. Best of luck
Wayne :police:
Hi Wayne
I do not eat things like donuts, simply because where I live we cannot get them. I am however 194cm and 140+kg, and most of the weight sits just above my belt. I want to enjoy playing with the grandkids a lot more, and that is going to mean a bit ofa weight loss, otherwise I have no chance of keeping up with them. It is embarrassing when you get winded pushing a little tacker on the swings. I like your idea of the vegies, but do you reckon that is okay stir fried with a bit of chilli and garlic.
Regards
Tjupurula
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As long as it not sweet chilli it should be ok. Chilli's are good for you. Cant remember how but they are. And who could live with out garlic?
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Garlic is good for your cholestrol I just found out.
At 60yrs, 179cm and 88kg I thought I was not too bad, but a BMI of 27.5 is classed as overweight.
With my cholestrol at 8.5 I have to change some habits also.
:cheers:
Mike
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As long as it not sweet chilli it should be ok. Chilli's are good for you. Cant remember how but they are. And who could live with out garlic?
Hi Black-Pig
You and Manjimike ahve just put a smile on my face, as I love chilli (not sweet chilli) and garlic. I use the little birdseye chillies and a heap of gralic with all my stirfries, and I do my vegies that way at least 4 times a week. The wok ios the most used instrument in my kitchen.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi
What an inspiring thread. :cheers:
After I got crook about 4 years ago I put on about 15kg and could really notice it. Over the past 8weeks I have dropped from 94.5 down to 88.2 by reducing my food intake. Smaller plates/bowls at dinner and stick to a piece of fruit and a sandwich during the day.
We have free range chooks so twice a week my wife and I will have two poached eggs on a panini roll :cup:
I think we are all different so different things work. I also get the impression that as you get older you need to ease back on the quantities.
Good luck to everyone.
Hi Dazzler
Not so much inspiring my friend, it is simply a lot easier for me to ask a question when very few people know me personally. THis way I can find out how other people have achieved weight loss, and I can take on board what is a good idea, and go from there. No sense not using other peoples experiences to learn from.
Regards
Tjupurula
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http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dh-jy3OtZAss&sa=U&ei=ZepqT4PiHMqtiQeepNyUBg&ved=0CBMQtwIwAA&sig2=pzHJwlhml0yaoJyVaofbhA&usg=AFQjCNHu6vl6wzVy_WOjMM96p7MMWsNI5w (http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dh-jy3OtZAss&sa=U&ei=ZepqT4PiHMqtiQeepNyUBg&ved=0CBMQtwIwAA&sig2=pzHJwlhml0yaoJyVaofbhA&usg=AFQjCNHu6vl6wzVy_WOjMM96p7MMWsNI5w)
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I started my weight loss journey 4 weeks ago.... l joined Curves and Weight Watchers Online and have lost 4 kg's in that time........ l can still have the occasional piece of chocolate so l don't start snarling at hubby and l figure that by losing it slowly that it will stay off this time........... l have given myself a time frame of about 18 months (til we go back to Tassie next year) to get fit ... so have plenty of time to achieve this...
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I also have struggled with this for a while. Interestingly I dropped about 15kg when I found out I was a coeliac, simply by going back to a basic diet of fresh fuit and veg.
Being Gluten Free makes it a little harder to consider some of the meal replacement diets, but when I worked out the things I could eat, I worked out I can still my curries and gluten free pastas etc (by the way gluten free bread sux!). This is where I stalled. At the moment I am still sitting at about 120kg.
I just need to go back to eating the fresh fruit and veigies more, exercising and drinking more water. Still want to go another 20kg to go.
Maybe we should start our own My Swag biggest loser!
Greg
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As long as it not sweet chilli it should be ok. Chilli's are good for you. Cant remember how but they are. And who could live with out garlic?
High in Vitamin C
Good in Vitamin A
Vitamin B (B6 and B1 I think)
High in Iron, Potassium and Copper
Also have a bunch of other minerals and stuff.
Also anti-bacterial, and can help lower cholesterol
Garlic is also rather good for you,
Natural antibiotic
Antioxidants
Keeps Vampires at bay
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Sir frys are great meals for watching your weight and make great lunches the ext day cold or hot. A few tips, lean red meat or chicken (kangaroo is often mentioned as being good) to get some substance in it (you need protein and some fats), use spray oil instead of a few tablespoons of normal oil, no sweet chillis sauce or other thickened sweetened sauces like oyster (just use soy sauce) heaps of vegies and cut the rice out. You are better to have a larger portion size of stir fry than adding rice. If you do have rice some times, limit it to around half a cup of cooked rice. I read that the reason chilli is good as it increases you metabloic rate.
Have a look at a calorie counter and you will find you have to eat an absolute tonne of vegetables to make up any reasonable amount of calories. Likewise, skin free chicken breats poached in garlic and water with some onion is a great source of protein and you need to eat around half a kilo of it to make up the same amount of calories that is in a standard whopper.
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Sir frys are great meals for watching your weight and make great lunches the ext day cold or hot. A few tips, lean red meat or chicken (kangaroo is often mentioned as being good) to get some substance in it (you need protein and some fats), use spray oil instead of a few tablespoons of normal oil, no sweet chillis sauce or other thickened sweetened sauces like oyster (just use soy sauce) heaps of vegies and cut the rice out. You are better to have a larger portion size of stir fry than adding rice. If you do have rice some times, limit it to around half a cup of cooked rice. I read that the reason chilli is good as it increases you metabloic rate.
Have a look at a calorie counter and you will find you have to eat an absolute tonne of vegetables to make up any reasonable amount of calories. Likewise, skin free chicken breats poached in garlic and water with some onion is a great source of protein and you need to eat around half a kilo of it to make up the same amount of calories that is in a standard whopper.
Cheers Burnsy
This has just become a lot more encouraging, as I can go without meat for a long time, but I love my stir fries with chilli, garlic and chunky vegetables. Chicken breast I can handle, so I shall be getting into that poaching act in the next couple of days.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Maybe we should start our own My Swag biggest loser!
Greg
I'm starting to think there is a link between camper trailer ownership and obesity. I might just get a little hiking tent and run everywhere.
I'm fairly lucky with the way I carry weight, I'm barrel chested, large shouldered and 195cm tall, at 118kg I'm starting to look as trim as a 195cm bloke built like an old school prop can look. My target weight is 105kg, I'd have bones poking out everywhere if I manage to get down to my BMI weight.
Also I'm on -37kg (or 23.8% of my starting body weight gone)
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High in Vitamin C
Good in Vitamin A
Vitamin B (B6 and B1 I think)
High in Iron, Potassium and Copper
Also have a bunch of other minerals and stuff.
Also anti-bacterial, and can help lower cholesterol
Garlic is also rather good for you,
Natural antibiotic
Antioxidants
Keeps Vampires at bay
Thanks John
You are just a wealth of good information. The only vampire that I know I am married to, and the love bite thing vanished about 30 years ago (thankfully), and the wife loves the garlic and chilli as well. The next day the grannies tell me I smell, but they say that at other times as well, so no loss there.
Regards
Tjupurula
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You are better to have a larger portion size of stir fry than adding rice. If you do have rice some times, limit it to around half a cup of cooked rice.
And if you must use rice, use small serves of brown rice.
If you are on a low-carb diet cooking with fats and oils is actually good for you. Coconut oil is awesome.
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And if you must use rice, use small serves of brown rice.
If you are on a low-carb diet cooking with fats and oils is actually good for you. Coconut oil is awesome.
Hi John
What about coconut cream and coconut milk in curries, that should be reasonably okay ?
Regards
Tjupurula
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Thanks for the reply, mate garlic is the best thing, ever and I don't mind chillies so what would be better than stir fried vegies in a wok with heaps of garlic and chillies. Don't add oil, just a bit of water. I hate exercising but I have to walk occasionally because of my back. Hopefully workcover will pay for a gym membership to strengthen my lower back. Look after number 1, life is too short. Cheers bloke
Donuts :police:
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Hi John
What about coconut cream and coconut milk in curries, that should be reasonably okay ?
Regards
Tjupurula
Go for it! You can make a rather nice panacotta using Coconut cream and berries as well. I really have to get to work on putting together my recipes so I don't have to search all over the place to find where I wrote stuff down (mostly stolen from books at this stage). They are both supposed to be quite healthy.
They are a supposed to boost immune system and provide an awesome source of energy for someone on a low-carb diet. The fats are easier to break down than those in animals. If I need a quick hit of energy eating a spoonful of coconut oil (or a nice smoothie with a spoonful in it) gives a bigger boost than Red Bull used to.
You don't want to overdo it though, to lose weight you do need the amount of energy consumed in your food to be burned off by exercise. Also it won't do a great deal to help energy levels unless you're burning fat for energy (ketosis) already.
Hopefully workcover will pay for a gym membership to strengthen my lower back. Look after number 1, life is too short. Cheers bloke
Donuts :police:
A gym membership might not be the best thing for that sort of work. You can quite easily cause more damage than good if you do some of the recommended exercises for strengthening the lower back wrong. Really you want to start working on your core muscles, starting with the pelvic floor to build your stability. It's kind of like the foundation of your back, if it is weak your back will be weak. Pilates is very good for working the right muscles in a safe manner.
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Hi John
What about coconut cream and coconut milk in curries, that should be reasonably okay ?
Regards
Tjupurula
A better option is Carnation light and Creamy Coconut flavoured evaporated milk, far less calories and fat. It is actualy really tastey and we are converts, grab some to try next time you are in Kununarra.
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Also being in IT sittin round all day, being lazy, no motivation and suffering depression for years doesnt help..
I went to a dietitian and she put me on shakes. Meal replacement shakes it worked for me. Replaced 3 meals a day with a shake, and ate shed loads of apples and bananas and it fell off me... This is when family was in USA over xmas visiting outlaws, so I was on my own, and didnt need to cook..
The Dietitan told me you need a REASON to lose weight or a genuine goal, not like "i wanna get to X kg" but something like to get a job, or career, or a hot babe' you always liked.
I just wish I had the motivation to do it now.
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Protein powder shakes with skim milk powder,water,ice, fresh fruit. cheerwayne :cheers:
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A better option is Carnation light and Creamy Coconut flavoured evaporated milk, far less calories and fat. It is actualy really tastey and we are converts, grab some to try next time you are in Kununarra.
I'm on massive amounts of fats, get told off regularly by my naturopath/nutritionist that I don't have enough fat in my diet for my needs. The specific fats in the coconut are quite good for you. They are more easily absorbed by the body than animal fats as well.
The coconut cream I have in the cupboard also has no artificial flavours and much less sugar (1.5g per 100g vs 12.6g per 100g), it does have double the kJ though with 830kJ vs 415kJ. If you're calorie counting it's not the best option, but for a low-carb diet there is absolutely no competition, coconut cream all the way. Also when I put coconut cream in my curries I find I'm not able to eat as much before I'm satisfied, so adding the cream can also make the portion sizes smaller, potentially balancing out some of the difference.
Meeting her requirements has slowed my rapid weight loss, but I'm chock full of energy and my recovery times are getting far better since I've started having smoothies after I have a heavy day or a big workout. My rate of strength improvement has sky-rocketed as well, which would account for some slowing of the weight-loss since I'm putting muscle on faster now than before, although that's probably the extra protein since WPI is a body-building supplement.
Smoothie ingredients (I just pour them in, but roughly):
1/2 cup Mixed Berries (Frozen Woolies Select)
15g Whey Protein Isolate (Body science chocolate flavour)
2 tsp Coconut Oil
1/2 cup Natural Yoghurt (Gippsland Diary Organic unflavoured)
1/2 cup Milk
3 tsp Chia seeds (both thickens the mixture and lowers the GI by slowing the absorption rate of the sugars into the system.
A lot of what my diet is based on is the Paleo Diet http://thepaleodiet.com/about (http://thepaleodiet.com/about) my exercise program is completely based on Pilates.
So far my experience has coincided with pretty much everything that I've read about it. It seems to be working for me, I'm the lightest I've been since I was in year 8, and I'm probably the fittest I've been since I was 8. My recovery from Chronic fatigue isn't complete yet and still tire quickly and recover slowly if I push too hard, but as long as I stay within my limits I'm better than I was before I just can't push as far past them without consequence (if that makes any sense).
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Thanks for the reply, mate garlic is the best thing, ever and I don't mind chillies so what would be better than stir fried vegies in a wok with heaps of garlic and chillies. Don't add oil, just a bit of water. I hate exercising but I have to walk occasionally because of my back. Hopefully workcover will pay for a gym membership to strengthen my lower back. Look after number 1, life is too short. Cheers bloke
Donuts :police:
Hi again Donuts
This time I can share an experience. When I was doing my apprenticeship (about 35 years back), I copped an oxygen bottle in the lower back. (It fell and the cap broke, then the bottle flew like a torpedo). A then young nurse, in training, told me to start walking and slowly jogging in water, and twisting around whilst I was doing it, to build the strength up again. After four months I was damn near good as gold, and when I occasionally get a niggle these days, I do the same thing, and it works, no pain killers or anything.
Everyone says swimming to lose weight, and in the water there is NO weight on your back, so it works wonders for a bad back.
Regards
Tjupurula
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I apologise if I'm coming off as a jerk or anything, I'm just quite passionate about what I'm doing.
I hit 100kg in year six, when I was 11 years old, I've been over 120kg since year 8. That entire time I've been on an extremely low fat diet and been as active if not more so than other kids my age and despite being relatively fit (I could play sports and swim multiple laps of an Olympic pool) the weight just kept stacking on. I practically starved myself trying to follow the doctors advice of eating smaller portions and less fat. Eventually I gave up and ate whatever I wanted (still quite healthy overall, but far too much soft-drink and pies) and my weight stayed stable around 145kg until the chronic fatigue set in and I was drinking nothing but energy drinks to try and keep going. Which pushed my weight out to 155kg.
I worked hard with my routine and all natural healthy diet (inc carbs and still low fat) in the first few months of chronic fatigue and barely managed to drag myself back down to 145kg in nearly a year.
A week after starting the low-carb higher-fats/proteins diet I noticed results, two weeks after my clothes were getting loose. My exercise was still the same, but I'd cut the carbs and was eating seemingly insane amounts of fat. I kept at it (being as sick as I was with chronic fatigue is a damned good motivator to get yourself into top physical shape) and the results are continuing 5 months after I started. This is the longest prolonged weight loss I have ever had, other diets and routine shake-ups were good for 5-10kg, but always stalled after a month or two, then regardless if I kept at it or pushed harder the weight would start to creep back on until I was back at 145kg. If it didn't creep back on I ended up sick, either from pushing too hard physically, or from the lack of nutrition in the diet and then put the weight back on.
I'd began to think I'd never be anywhere near a healthy weight, no matter what I did, but this diet has me very close after only 5 months and coming off the worst couple of years of my short life, it's nothing short of a miracle to me.
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Hi John
There is no way that you are coming off as a jerk. A lot of people including yourself, have responded to my question, and please believe that I appreciate every comment, remark and recommendation that has been made.
My health has started to suffer, as I got to a weight that was simply shocking. Admittedly my work involves a lot of lifting with steel and the like, as well as cutting and welding, but when it came to walking, I was lucky to make 50 metres without needing a breather. Luckily now that I am down to just over 140 kg that has changed, but I know I must lose more weight. I have quite a few grandchildren, another one born today (no name yet), and I want to be able to enjoy taking them to the playground, or to Lake Gregory for a swim, and that requires a bit of walking.
Any advice or suggestion helps, and I thank you for taking the time to share from what you have learned.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Good to read some success stories.
My best mate, who is a firey and sparky, and surfs a fair bit, blew out from 85kg to 115kgs after a battle with chronic fatigue. Recently he has battled to get his weight down again and before going on a good diet / exercise plan, the lady that is advising him got him to go on a colon cleansing plan. I can't remember the exact stuff he was on but it cleaned all the crap (pun intended) out of his bowels and helped him in his dieting afterwards.
The treatment went for 28 days and there was meant to be no booze.....there was the odd sneaky.......doing that program he lost about 7kgs.
Apparently it helps you to improve your digestion and processing of what you do eat. So more k's to the litre I suppose.
If you want me to find out a bit more just let me know and I will ask him the supplier and course and what not.
Cheers
Nomad.
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Hi Nomad
I am happy to learn all that I can, so that I can determine the best way to go. I would like hearing from you all relevant data about the way in which your friend lost weight, and had the continuation afterwards.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Good to read some success stories.
the lady that is advising him got him to go on a colon cleansing plan. I can't remember the exact stuff he was on but it cleaned all the crap (pun intended) out of his bowels and helped him in his dieting afterwards.
I have an extremely good idea about what it involved.
I'd hazard a guess that he used something called Picoprep (probably only 4-5 times in that period) in conjunction with a diet program (mostly clear liquids) and crazy amounts of water. If he did the same as I did he would've only done the laxatives once a week or so, otherwise it would leave him feeling very washed out and honestly wouldn't have achieved much after the first couple of doses. He may have been on something less extreme that took the entire period to complete as well. Would be interested in hearing what he did.
If you're going down that path I suggest getting hold of some pro-biotics such as Inner Health Plus (I used Ultra Flora Restore, from my naturopath) and take them once the Picoprep has done its work (no point taking them beforehand).
What will happen is that a lot of the bacteria that is supposed to be in your bowels will be flushed out with all the crap and the pro-biotics help to regrow it faster.
The doc told me that there was ~1kg of bacteria to regrow after the process.
Hi John
There is no way that you are coming off as a jerk. A lot of people including yourself, have responded to my question, and please believe that I appreciate every comment, remark and recommendation that has been made.
Just seems I'm responding to everything and thought I might be coming off as an internet know it all. Hate impersonal means of communication.
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Talking of colon cleanse, I am now a believer.
Out of sympathy, I did a colon cleanse with my wife out of support and to encourage her. Hard for her to do it while I am snacking on Snickers and other treats.
Well, a sceptic no more.
We did a cleanse from WWW.blessedherbs.com (http://WWW.blessedherbs.com)
WOW. Imagine a 2' foot long condom filled with a rubbery stubstance.
That's inside of you. The photos on the website are real.
40 years of junk coming out of you. I am no longer a sceptic thinking its new age hippie crap.
I have the photos to prove it. It was scary to think that's inside you.
I also know wat PMS must be like for the women folk among us. Cramps,pains, moods, that's when all the crap is coming out of you.
To lose weight, without going to such extremes, eat healthy, exercise regularly, drink lots water, and something no one has mentioned yet, sleep well.
Those 4 elements are the key and are important.
Along with a good mindset to begin with.
There was a myswag.org quit smoking thread, why not a lose weight thread.
Post up your achievements.???
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Morning tjupurula
Yes I know it's early but the missus had to go to work and I just wake up naturally because of shift work. Make her a cuppa and straight to the forum. Yes I agree, swimming is the best and hence that is why I am trying to get the workcover insurance people to pay for my leisure centre fees. I have a pool but Melbourne she's a bit cold. Only get a few days a year and the Chrissy day storm broke the heating and the insurance fixed 3 months later. A bit late now. Might have to retire somewhere warm.
Cheers mate.
Wayne
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G'day All,
First post, not about CT's but something I can offer some assistance with...
About 12 months ago my wife was given a book by David Gillespie, and watched one of his lectures on YouTube (http://www.howmuchsugar.com/ (http://www.howmuchsugar.com/)), this guy has done a heap of work on what effect sugar has on the body and the way the body reacts to different types of sugar - there is a heap of really good science behind it all which is on his site, and in the book and youtube clips if you are interested, but basically there is "Good" sugar and "bad" sugar. After 2 kids my wife was struggling to shed the kgs and had tried a few different things that didn't work but ended up going mad with what this bloke said, and in under 12 months, without changing anything else, ie not adding any additional exercise, and not changing the occasional junk food meal she dropped 30kg (from pushing 100kg down to 70kg). Giving up "sugar" (and interestingly a lot of "sugar free" foods with artificial sweetners that apparently your body reacts to in the same way as real sugar) isn't actually that hard, AND cutting out the sugar after a week or so stops you wanting to nibble on a chocky bars or timtam etc which is what does a lot of damage.
Sooo, one of the side effects of my wife going off sugar was that I ended up cleaning up the "leftovers" of the occasional cheesecake or desert we made, or finishing off the last few chocky biscuits that she would normally have had that the kids didn't get to. This, along with buying a couple of cases of coke on special over summer, and a few other things resulted in my belt going out several notches. For a bloke who has been pretty skinny and hovering in the mid 70 kg for years, a bit over a month ago with a wardrobe of trousers that I was convinced must have shrunk in the wash, I jumped on the scales and was quite surprised to see 86kg. I decided to give this no sugar thing a crack, and while I haven't gone cold turkey altogether like my wife did, I have stopped the coke (drinking CokeZero if I have to have coke), given away the chocolate, and not had the evening bowl of icecream, I have also given up the mixup water cordial I used to drink heaps of when it was hot (I hate plain water normally, but if really cold in the fridge I can drink it no worries) about all I have sugar wise now is 1 teaspoon of sugar in my 2-3 cups of coffee a day, which is down from the 2 teaspoons I used to have (I may even try to get that down to 1/2 maybe) and maybe the occasional shortbread with a coffee. In around a month, and again not doing anything other than cutting out the sugar my trousers have all stretched in the wash again, my belt is now back in the notch it used to be, and last time on the scales I think was 76kg which makes 10kg in 6 weeks or so, which I have to say I am pretty happy with.
Probably sounds all a bit whacky and "fad" like, but like I said, there is some sound science behind it, and I have now seen it work for several people. The beauty of it is you can still eat whatever you want (within reason I guess) so long as you don't have the sugar.
Hope there is something in there for someone, like I said, worked for me pretty painlessly - except the coke zero - that is a bit hard to take at times!
Good Luck
Cheers
Rod
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what can I say but "Well done Rod"!!!! :4x4:
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Morning tjupurula
Yes I know it's early but the missus had to go to work and I just wake up naturally because of shift work. Make her a cuppa and straight to the forum. Yes I agree, swimming is the best and hence that is why I am trying to get the workcover insurance people to pay for my leisure centre fees. I have a pool but Melbourne she's a bit cold. Only get a few days a year and the Chrissy day storm broke the heating and the insurance fixed 3 months later. A bit late now. Might have to retire somewhere warm.
Cheers mate.
Wayne
Good Morning Wayne
Given I believe one of your posts said you are in Melbourne, you are several hours in front of me (Kimberleys WA). I have taken today off work to complete the nursery for my newest Grandson (born yesterday, no name or photo yet), my son in law is overseas with the ADF so I help where I can. I own the business so it is not a "fake sickie". (I keep saying "son in law", but I have five daughters all married, hence five son in laws, and all nice fellas).
Speaking to the Prime Minister for Domestic Affairs (she who must be obeyed), I was reminded that when the back really starts playing up, my wife frequently uses hot and cold towels alternately, straight on the lower spine, for about 20 minutes, and it works wonders to diminish the pain. I hate the thought of any kind of medication, so my wife is forever finding various kinds of natural methods, and more often than not they work.
Have a great weekend mate.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi Rod
Thankyou for the wonderful comments and advice regarding sugars. I actually like coke zero, and it is the only soft drink that I have. I do like the amber fluid, but will have to cut down the amount I have there, and that is a nightmare of a thought at the moment, but I will have to make certain sacrifices (going into the horrors thinking about it).
Regards
Tjupurula
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I do like the amber fluid, but will have to cut down the amount I have there,
Again, alchohol (and sugar content) is the main issue here.
Low carb beers are spruiked as the answer, but apparently not:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/myth-of-the-lowcarb-beer/2008/02/02/1201801094691.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/myth-of-the-lowcarb-beer/2008/02/02/1201801094691.html)
Better to reduce intake or as a compromise, drink mid strenght brews.
:cheers:
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Hi Rod
Thankyou for the wonderful comments and advice regarding sugars. I actually like coke zero, and it is the only soft drink that I have. I do like the amber fluid, but will have to cut down the amount I have there, and that is a nightmare of a thought at the moment, but I will have to make certain sacrifices (going into the horrors thinking about it).
Regards
Tjupurula
That will probably be your biggest battle based on what you have told us you already eat pretty well, maybe just to much. Look at it this way, one small bottle of beer like a corona is around 140 calories and has say 12 grams of carbs and pretty much nothing of any use to your body in it. To get that many calories from poached chicken breast you need to eat around 140 grams of it and that has no carbs and over 30 grams of protien and a couple of grams of fat.
If you go with watching your nutrition and using calorie counting as a method of managing portion size, two small beers is the equivelent of 1 300 calorie meal which is a big deal as I have found I needed to aim for around six meals a day at 300 calories so I did not feel starving all the time at first as my body was not use to having stacks of bad fats and carbs to live off. I have also found that a cup of all bran, a cup of skim milk with a bananna and some good yogurt (like yoplait forme) is a great breakfast as the high fibre keeps you satisfied longer.
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Alcohol is any form is the enemy of weight-loss unfortunately. Vodka is probably one of the "better" ones, but it's actually the alcohol that is causing the problem so none of them are good.
For back-pain there is a product called Ice Gel. Its in a bright blue box and works wonders.
If you are already eating what you consider to be a healthy diet and following a healthy exercise program and failing to lose weight it might be worth looking into Insulin Resistance or Metabolic Syndrome. They are connected medical issues that can make it more difficult to lose weight, and can be caused by being overweight in the first place. Basically the system that evolved to store high energy carbs as fat in the body works in overdrive.
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There was a myswag.org quit smoking thread, why not a lose weight thread.
Post up your achievements.???
Brilliant Idea!
There was one of these on the cycling forum I am on which I joined in on which helped immensley. It is great to post up your successes and read about others too! I looked forward to posting up my results every Monday morning after I had weighed in and the encouragement from everyone else doing the same was very uplifting.
The way we did it was:
Date:
Weight Last Week:
Weight This Week:
Difference +/-:
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O yeah, today is my "weigh in day"
116.5kg, down from 118kg last week. Very happy with that since I've had a lazy week, tennis season is over and only worked out at low intensity twice in addition to my full 1 hour Pilates session with the instructor.
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Good arvo tjupurula
I will have to give that a try for sure. Was it really hot and cold towels? As in boiling and freezing? I usually put a hot wheat bag on my back and it sort of helps so if I do that and then stick a cold frrezer bag in a tea towel that might work? Tell me is Lake Gregory known as Paraku? I was curious where the lake is located. It sortnof rang a bell and then I read something about the Tanami which I drove through last year.
Wayne :cheers:
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Hi all. What a get thread..........................! Congrats.to everyone loosing or has lost weight.
I'm only medium sized.....short. But have now been without a drink for 1 week, and boy does my gut feel a lot better !!!
My diet this week has improved as well.........so looks like the grog may have to go for good. ( mine you I only ever had max. 3 beers or 3 wines in a sitting,)
I like the look of the colon cleansing thing .......may have to try that.
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Good arvo tjupurula
I will have to give that a try for sure. Was it really hot and cold towels? As in boiling and freezing? I usually put a hot wheat bag on my back and it sort of helps so if I do that and then stick a cold frrezer bag in a tea towel that might work? Tell me is Lake Gregory known as Paraku? I was curious where the lake is located. It sortnof rang a bell and then I read something about the Tanami which I drove through last year.
Wayne :cheers:
Hi Wayne
Not afternoon here yet. No the hot towel is as hot as you can handle without being burned, until it starts to cool, then a cold compress, perhaps some ice blocks wrapped in a chux or tea towel as you suggested, which is what my wife uses. She usually rotates about 5 times in 20 minutes, the relief is instant and absolutely amazing.
Yes, Lake Gregory is known as Paruku, within the bounds of the Tjurabalan area. From the Tanami you need to take the Balgo turn off, go through Balgo, then we are about 40 km's SE of Balgo, and Lake Gregory is a further 10 - 12 km's down the track from us. We get a lot of tour groups of bird watchers come in with organised groups, and some grey nomads, and I love meeting with them, as we learn about a lot of other places they have been to and see some photo's they have taken.
Have a great weekend
Regards
Tjupurula
Note:- I will get the GPS for the "handover Site" at Lake Gregory as soon as the tracks dry out and message the information to you. The "Handover Site" is so named as that is where the High Court of Australia came and sat, and handed the land back to the Walmajarri people here.
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Just tried to link in my livestrong weight and calorie graph but did not work :'(
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Another thing people tend to overlook is the portion(s) of food to the time of the day.
If you're quite active during the day, good size breakfast & lunch. Night time is mostly a case of just sitting around, you're not burning much energy, so don't eat big!
Thankyou Bobnrob
Portions and times is something that I have never really considered, and that is something that I will definitely take into account.
Have a great weekdend
Regards
Tjupurula
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I think the secret is there isnt many
we all know what we have to do and dont do, its not really hard as "professionals" who make squillions out of it make it out to be.
you need the support of those around you to start with, time to exercise, even 5000 steps a day (using a pedometer) oh and you need fawk loads of willpower.
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you need the support of those around you to start with, time to exercise,
This is the key, do it together with your partner and family and everyone wins. We have found we have more time together now as we excersise together every evening after diner (it is the only time we get). It is also hard without supporting each other with what you eat, one person can not be bringing pizza and chocolate home or baking cakes if the other is trying to not eat that stuff.
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I think the secret is there isnt many
oh and you need fawk loads of willpower.
That, and you need to be 100% honest with yourself. Record EVERYTHING that you eat in a food diary and don't leave off the bad things to make yourself feel/look better when you read it.
I've talked to others on the same diet as I am, but we go out and I see them drinking Sugary Pre-mixes and always eating junk food. I ask about what recipes they could suggest and they tell me about this really nice dessert with bags of sugar in it. Even for breakfast they are still having their sugared cereal with some toast and jam, snacks are cake and lunch is 2-3 sandwiches (sometimes salad or cold meat, but just as often jam, honey or some other high-carb spread).
Yet they'll complain to me about how the diet isn't working and how strictly they are following it and why won't it work for them as it works for me. Umm... It's probably because you had cocopops for breakfast, ate a packet of biscuits for morning tea, had 3 jam sandwiches for lunch and right now you are complaining to be while drinking a beer and eating a massive plateful of Spaghetti bolognese for dinner. Any plan only works if you actually stick to it, not just say that you are.
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Johny, you are dead right about being honest.
Also a big thing is just sucking it up and dealing with it, by actually changing what got you to this state in the first place. Don't replace your crap sugary feel good food with sugar free crap sweet tasting feel good food. Suck it up make a change for the better and do without it, eat a piece of fruit or drink a glass of water instead.
All thses stupid adds on TV for premade diet food that include desert and sugar free chocolate make me sick. If you want a piece of cake, eat a real bit, but not verey day, it is a treat so maybe once a week and afterwards make up for it by doing some extra physical activity (mow the lawn or something it does not have to be planned excercise) and going without something else you don't possibly need later in the day.
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Hey Tjupurula
That would be great. I intend to come back again and see the Kimberleys properly not just in 2weeks like last year. Retiring in 3 years so it will probably be then. So much we missed out on. Talk soon
Wayne :police:
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oh and you need fawk loads of willpower.
I have lots of willpower, it's the won'tpower that kills me.
I have struggled all my life with being overweight and i attribute it partway to experimental asthma drugs when I was a young kid. Don't get me wrong as I would not be here now if it were not for them but as soon as I started taking these drugs my weight ballooned and i have not been able to get it down 50 years later. I was in a bad spot living on a wheat farm and being allergic to wheat dust was not easy, it even got to the stage of being allergic to green grass. Moving to a moist climate on the coast has stopped my chronic asthma but i still stuggle with my weight (5ft9 & 122Kg)
I have found that the Tony Ferguson diet worked well for me for about 6 months and then I hit a spot where whatever I did it just stayed the same. Gave up and now 3 yrs later & 20Kg later I am back to the same weight. I find that I have this strange spot where I can just stagnate and will stay the same weight whatever I do and seems to be around 120Kg.
I now know that I have to do something about it as a few health issues are starting to arise and I cannot ignore it any more.
Soooo. After Easter finishes so does my old lifestyle. I am going to do it.
Also SWMBO says that if i can get down to 85 Kg she will let me buy a bike, not just any bike but one that I have been craving for for years. A GS1000s if I can find one. If not then something of similar vintage maybe a GSX1100. What an incentive, gotta get it before I am too old to ride it.
So it sounds like the Myswag weight loss centre should be a goer. Don't know how yet but I'll be there.
Let the show begin.
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I recently hooked in and lost the weight, 26kg in 9 weeks,
Happy to advise how but its a bit of typing, if anyone is genuinely interetsed just shoot me a PM
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I recently hooked in and lost the weight, 26kg in 9 weeks,
Happy to advise how but its a bit of typing, if anyone is genuinely interetsed just shoot me a PM
Hi Variflex
You have my curiousity for certain, so I will flick you a message.
Regards
Tjupurula
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l had my monthly weigh in at Curves today ... started at 111.4kgs today 106.7kgs so down 4.7kgs so far
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l had my monthly weigh in at Curves today ... started at 111.4kgs today 106.7kgs so down 4.7kgs so far
That is a really good effort, you have every reason to be proud of that achievment.
Tjupurula
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I believe 1kg/week is the best for long term weight loss :cup:
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I recently hooked in and lost the weight, 26kg in 9 weeks,
Happy to advise how but its a bit of typing, if anyone is genuinely interetsed just shoot me a PM
Do what I did and upload a doc, (as long as you are happy share that is). I believe this forum actually has FTP so the doc can be hosted here without you needing to set up an external site like I used (I already had skydrive set up).
Would be interested in hearing how you did it so I might shoot you a PM anyway.
I believe 1kg/week is the best for long term weight loss :cup:
I've heard similar, I was warned by various trainers and such that rapid weight loss programs often result in rapid weight gain afterwards. Patience is another key element to successfully losing weight.
A summary so far of our collective knowledge as I see it:
You need
- A target: Something tangible to strive for.
- Willpower: The ability to stick to your guns and power through doubts and doubters.
- Honesty: With yourself, you can't just claim to be on it.
- Support: A positive strong support network will do wonders. Can provide some friendly competition and help keep you honest and prop up your willpower when it gets tough.
- The right information: Making sure you have the right information for your needs. If you have a medical condition that might be causing the problem it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to lose the weight if you know about it and are able to manage it somehow.
- Patience: You have to keep at it, don't panic if the weight doesn't come off straight away, or if it stalls just keep at it.
- Positive Outlook: Be confident that you can do this, it IS possible and you WILL do it.
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I believe 1kg/week is the best for long term weight loss :cup:
That seems like a realistic and obtainable goal for me. My goodness it is Friday and I have not had any amber fluid...
Tjupurula
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That is a really good effort, you have every reason to be proud of that achievment.
Tjupurula
thanks l am...... ;D
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Hi Nomad
I am happy to learn all that I can, so that I can determine the best way to go. I would like hearing from you all relevant data about the way in which your friend lost weight, and had the continuation afterwards.
Regards
Tjupurula
Hey Tjupurula,
I asked him last night and he told me it was called Abundance. I have googled it quickly and came up with a heap of sites that could be it.
As others have mentioned he was on the powder stuff for 3 or 4 days at the start and drinking heaps of water. Then the remainder of the time he was grazing on prepackaged food that was supplied as part of the program.
With that he lost the 7kg's.
Both of us have been doing a lot of paddling around the points for the last month, probably 5 or 6 k's a day and he is also running. I hate running.......so I have been skipping that.
He has also moved stations to the Maroochydore airport, where one of the guys is an absolute fitness nut. They get paid to train so he spends a fair bit of our tax payer dollars in their gym.
He is down to 90kgs, but has replaced a fair bit of flab with muscle tone and said if he can get back to around 87kgs he'll be stoked.
Cheers Nomad. :cheers:
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Hey Tjupurula,
I asked him last night and he told me it was called Abundance. I have googled it quickly and came up with a heap of sites that could be it.
As others have mentioned he was on the powder stuff for 3 or 4 days at the start and drinking heaps of water. Then the remainder of the time he was grazing on prepackaged food that was supplied as part of the program.
With that he lost the 7kg's.
Both of us have been doing a lot of paddling around the points for the last month, probably 5 or 6 k's a day and he is also running. I hate running.......so I have been skipping that.
He has also moved stations to the Maroochydore airport, where one of the guys is an absolute fitness nut. They get paid to train so he spends a fair bit of our tax payer dollars in their gym.
He is down to 90kgs, but has replaced a fair bit of flab with muscle tone and said if he can get back to around 87kgs he'll be stoked.
Cheers Nomad. :cheers:
Hi Nomad
I have just googled that Abundance site, and you are right, it is going to take a while to search all the options, but I am more than happy to gradually work my way through as I get the opportunity to do so.
Thankyou
Tjupurula
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HCG diet ... have a look at it ..... it does work .
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Hello Tjupurula,
My simple weight loss program trimmed me down by 10kg in 3 months. I just cut sugar out of the diet and divided my meals into "carb" and "no-carb" meals. ie. if you have a feed of spag bols for example (a carb meal) make sure yopu dont have any sugar to go with it eg beer or dessert for at least 2 hours after. The idea is that sugar excites the pancreas and converts all carbs and sugar to storeable fat. If you dont have sugar with your carb meal it will be digested and supply energy but not be stored as fat on your body. Conversely you can have for example chicken and salad but no carbs eg bread with it. So in the end by just regulating sugar intake you can still enjopy food. Good luck - it worked for me
Gumboot
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The idea is that sugar excites the pancreas and converts all carbs and sugar to storeable fat. If you dont have sugar with your carb meal it will be digested and supply energy but not be stored as fat on your body.
Gumboot
That doesn't sound right to me. Any high carb meal will inflate your blood sugar level and cause the pancreas to create insulin to both transport the energy to the cells that need it and store some energy as fat. You have a potato mash without burning enough energy to compensate and you will gain weight. Not having the sugary foods with the starchy carbs will reduce the excess amounts of energy and means you'd be storing less fat though at the meal time, although having it 2 hours later will still spike the insulin levels causing it to be stored as fats in the end anyway, so not sure how that is supposed to work.
Cutting sugar out is pretty much always a good thing and what you've done has obviously worked for you :cheers:
I don't envy anyone in our situation trying to find out about the healthiest life style choice. There is so much conflicting evidence out there and lots of it published by leading experts in the field. I believe the problem lays in the fact that there is a lot of money to be made in the field with the "obesity epidemics" and bad mouthing the opposition is seen as necessary to ensure that people will use "YOUR" method and give "YOU" money.
Just comparing the Paleo diet and some opposition to low-carb diets (Paleo is actually low to moderate since it allows free use of fruits) that I found.
Paleo says: Grains are partially responsible for autoimmune disease and a major cause of many chronic problems in society such as obesity, diabetes and heart disease. Burning fats for energy is how our bodies are supposed to work.
Op says: That low-carb diets restrict health protecting grain foods. Burning fats for energy makes our bodies acidic and can cause diabetic comas and death.
Grains, sugars and fats (basically anything high in energy it seems) make the body more acidic. The amounts of alkaline foods in the Paleo diet seems to easily counteract the effect.
I've been testing my pH levels since before starting the diet (just collect a bit of piss and stick a normal pH strip in it, you should be slightly alkaline, between 7-7.5). When I started I was quite acidic, during the first couple of weeks I went to near even and currently I'm dead on the healthy alkaline levels.
So it seems like the diet is healthy, I haven't so much as had a sniffle or a headache since starting either, coming from an extremely weak immune system on my old diet. I'm in easily the best health of my memory and it's thanks to my diet, so I'm inclined to believe it's claims over the others that I have already tried and have had fail.
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Hello Tjupurula,
My simple weight loss program trimmed me down by 10kg in 3 months. I just cut sugar out of the diet and divided my meals into "carb" and "no-carb" meals. ie. if you have a feed of spag bols for example (a carb meal) make sure yopu dont have any sugar to go with it eg beer or dessert for at least 2 hours after. The idea is that sugar excites the pancreas and converts all carbs and sugar to storeable fat. If you dont have sugar with your carb meal it will be digested and supply energy but not be stored as fat on your body. Conversely you can have for example chicken and salad but no carbs eg bread with it. So in the end by just regulating sugar intake you can still enjopy food. Good luck - it worked for me
Gumboot
Hi Gumboot
I have to be honest, I cannot use anything with sugar at all, and that is part of my problem, as I love a bit of amber fluid. I have not had a drink in a few weeks though, and I am doing a lot better. Yes, I am a diabetic.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Yes, I am a diabetic.
You should definitely go for professional help. A lot of diets can be dangerous for diabetics. Paleo seems like it might be a good option though.
Some reading that might interest you.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/healthwatch-caveman-diet-helps-diabetics-in-ucsf-study/ (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/healthwatch-caveman-diet-helps-diabetics-in-ucsf-study/)
http://paleodietnews.com/1602/diabetes-and-the-paleo-diet/ (http://paleodietnews.com/1602/diabetes-and-the-paleo-diet/)
http://paleodiabetic.com/about-3/ (http://paleodiabetic.com/about-3/)
Also found this website ranking various diets
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/dash-diet (http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/dash-diet)
Paleo doesn't go all that well, too much fats and far too little carbs and calcium for their guidelines (uses US government recommended intakes, which Paleo would claim to be wrong so...).
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet (http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet)
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Hi again John
The diabetes is not a problem, I have the correct medication already, I am not on insulin yet, it is for the most part diet controlled, I just get in trouble when I have a couple of beers. That is in trouble with sugar, and a loss worse trouble with the better half, but I do not need further medical help yet, I just have to lose more weight.
Regards
Tjupurula
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l'm a Type 2 Diabetic as well...... medication controlled
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it is for the most part diet controlled
Giving diet pointers to someone who is using diet to control things can go a bit haywire was my only concern.
I figured you wouldn't be silly enough to try some "miracle diet" that happens to be pure sugar, but there are people out there that would just go out and do it because they heard it was an awesome healthy diet from some random on the internet.
By professional I mean someone like a nutritionist or dietician that can help you set a meal plan that will meet your needs and help control the diabetes.
Although all of them are working on systems that many others of them say are completely wrong :S Almost enough to drive you to drink, except for the fact that they all agree that alcohol is bad, and if they can agree on something it has a fair chance of actually being bad in my opinion.
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Blimey, whoever suggested to drink a lot more was not wrong about one thing, the time spent standing up in the littlest room in the house. I did take a lot of the comments in, and did a stir fry with water, chilli, garlic, and varioius chunky vegetables, kept the meat out of it twice on the weekend. The chillies did not lose there flavour and heat, lovely. Certainly slept a heap better, big lunch and small evening meal.
Leave the scales alone for a month and check the progress.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Leave the scales alone for a month and check the progress.
You will find by weighing in weekly you will keep your momentum better as you will see a difference and want to keep it up. Weigh in first thing in the moring after you have visited the littlest room in the house on the same day each week and before you eat or drink anything.
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G'day Tjupurula,
Good on you for making the effort to lose weight. Lots of great advice here. I don't have any issues with weight but am a type 1 diabetic so I 'm pretty much on a diet all the time so we're in the same boat I guess. I love a beer and a mars bar and mashed potatoes and chips and all that tasty stuff but have to deal with the consequences if I over do it. Believe me you don't want to get to the stage where you need to control your diabetes with medication.
For me, motivation is the key to controlling what I eat. I've got pictures of my family on the fridge and as morbid as it sounds, I think about what it would be like if I wasn't here for them, and how my kids would feel if I wasn't around. I still eat all that fatty, salty, tasty, beery goodness but having that image in the back of my mind makes me think before I go beyond moderation. I think about all the extra years that I'll have to embarrass my kids and it gives me strength ;D
Good luck with your weight loss mate!
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Hi Fridge Magnet
Type 1 tells you have had diabetes since childhood. Mine only started when I was hospitalised for quite a period of time for something else, and the medication they had to use for nearly 5 months put some 50+ kg's on me, and that was with a controlled diet, ntohing could be done. I made the comment that I don't want to get any medication, I said that because I take enough now to rattle, all prescribed and none that are covered by the PBS.
I too love a bit of amber liquid, and a bit of rice, pasta and other things, but I am cutting them totally out at the moment, which will hopefully be benficial. I have had a few PM's from others who are dieting, and they have given me some great tips, which I will look into. I am realstic enough to know that with me height and frame, I will never get below 100 kg, but if I can get around that mark I will be happy.
Regards
Tjupurula
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On 23rd March, 2011, I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. I was devastated. I'd had a couple of talks from various doctors over time, and given enough warnings about being borderline, but I ignored the advice and reaped the rewards of my negligence.
My doctor put me on 2 tablets a day and implemented a 'Care Plan' involving a dietician, podiatriast, opthomologist, and the Surgery's Registered nurse. I also had access to a diabetes educator.
As well as this, my wife purchased a book titled 'the CSIRO and BAKER IDI Diabetes 'Diet and Lifestyle Plan,' and cooked nearly every meal out of this book for about 4 months. There was only 1 meal that I didn't like (not the wife's cooking techniques, either). I acknowledge her for all the time and effort she put in. She was the main reason for my success.
I was very strict on what I put in my mouth. I was allowed 2 standard drinks a day, but chose not to drink at all, because I wouldn't/couldn't stop at 2, so I made a conscious decision 12 months ago not to drink at all - and I've stuck to it. The extra cash has paid for a mod or two on my Patrol. lol
I forget the timeline, but I've gone from about 115kg to around 95kg. Drinking water is also a big plus, undoubtedly.
I'm 53 this year and have heaps of energy and do at least half an hour a day exercise. I try and ride my bike 30k's a day, two or three times a week, depending on my shifts.
I went from 2 tablets a day to no tablets in 76 days. So, technically I'm 'in remission' from a chronic disease, which is now controlled by diet and exercise. I still regularly check my own BSL and have my own BP monitor too. I'm down to one BP tablet a day and working on reducing the strength of that, too.
To quote the book I've mentioned.....'Each day in Australia, 275 people develop type 2 diabetes.' I was staggered. That got me off my butt and into gear.
My first port of call was my doctor. I followed instructions and did what I was told. Although I control my diabetes through exercise and diet, I still see the dietician every 2-3 months, to make sure I'm 'on track.' She keeps me honest. lol
I hope I've helped at least one person by giving my testimony.
I'm on a Nissan Patrol forum and we have a weekly weigh in every Monday morning. The easiest way to do it is to put your weight in, and the next week, add the previous weight as a quote and put in your current weight. That way you can see where you're at. Just like this.....well mostly just like this ( it occasionally gets hyjacked. lol)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?4050-Canteen-Cure-Cancer-for-Kids-Fundraiser-WEIGH-IN&highlight=weigh (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?4050-Canteen-Cure-Cancer-for-Kids-Fundraiser-WEIGH-IN&highlight=weigh)
We also have a weight chat thread, where we talk about 'things'
Take care out there.
Rossco
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Hi DX grunt
Many thanks for what you have shared, and I can relate to most of it. I was diagnosed in January last year, but my weight was a lot more than you had. My BSL this morning was 10.2, which is reasonable, and my BP 110/70, which is incredible for me.
Thankyou again for sharing your fantastic story, I had better not stay here too long, lunch break.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Bit of an update. I continue to eat less than I used to and stick with smaller portions and no seconds for dinner. Dont eat much during the day usually have an apple, a ham sandwich and maybe a slice of homemade cake during the day.
I weigh myself each morning and notice the weight change all the time. Down a 100g or so per day.
Had to buy new work pants yesterday. Others looked like bozo the clowns :D
From this read it seems like there are lots of ways of achieving it. I dont run at all due to damaged knees but am active most times when awake.
cheers to all
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Hi Dazzler
Don't worry, I don't run either...I would be too afraid they would record that on the Richter Scale "Earthquake in the desert". I am absolutely stoked with the numbers that I got today, but left the scales alone for now. I have switched shifts at the moment, do night work to get a contract completed so I will have to be a lot more careful, as it is during these shifts that I tend to snack instead of having meals. The wife has come up with a term I like, she tells me that I am not fat, I am comfortable....Got to love a woman who knows when to lie.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Sugar is what does it for me. If i cut sugar out, my pot belly dissappears within 2-3 weeks.
cheers
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DX nailed it in the sub text of his post. It takes will power,,, one of the hardest hurdles to get past. I have managed to shed 10% since Christmas by eating smaller portions, no snacking , and if I did, I limited it to 1 bit of fruit, half a handful of nuts or a small strip of beef jerky. It was more about tasting something than feeling fed, or if you can drink water instead.
As for alcohol, I only on weekends and rationed the amount, If you cant stop at a couple, do like DX and have zero.
I have an active job where I only sit down driving to and from, morning tea and lunch, I'm moving (walking) the rest of the time. But I have always had a job like this.
As for exercise, I swim for about 30min once a week.
I purposely didn't go all out and exercise all the time to see if it was possible to do it with just cutting down on intakes. At the end of the day we are just very efficient machines, If we eat or drink it and don't burn it as fuel, we store it for when its needed, and if we refuel before we use it, it stays there as extra weight. Now if I could do that to my Patrol id be ;D
All the best, Dave
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Sugar is what does it for me. If i cut sugar out, my pot belly dissappears within 2-3 weeks.
cheers
Hi Jeeps
That seems to be quite a recurring theme here as well, something well worth looking at.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi Crockett
Our body may operate like efficient machines, but I think I forgot to get mine serviced between the 100K and the 500K mark somewhere, and that is something that I will probably take a considerable amount of time to rectify. Fortunately I have that much information available now after commencing this thread, if I fail it will be due to laziness on my behalf, and that is not going to happen.
Regards
Tjupurula
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I should have reread my post before posting,,, we are over efficient at storing it and and down right uneconomical at shedding it 8)
Ps I cut sugar out of my tea and coffee and totally gave up coke too .
Just learn to treat feeling a little hungry all the time as a proof reward, that what your doing is working. :cheers:
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Jogged a bit less than 1km today in work boots (there was a reason, not for the fun of it). Barely even got my heart-rate or breathing up (like it shouldn't), it's amazing how much better I've gotten in the last month or so (I wouldn't have considered jogging let alone made the entire distance without having need of my Asthma meds). Also I was a fair bit faster and more fluid than I used to be. Much lighter on my feet, no jarring through the body and this was in work boots. I already knew I was fitter and faster from tennis, but sprinting around the court in short bursts was leaving me a little winded, I was surprised by how little the jogging effected me.
Just learn to treat feeling a little hungry all the time as a proof reward, that what your doing is working. :cheers:
That's what I'm loving about my diet, I only feel hungry coming up to meal times and am 100% satisfied by said meals. Don't even need snacks, the only time I feel any real hunger is if I go off diet for a few days in a row.
Good luck to everyone that's decided to start a course, and keep going everyone that's already began, it is worth it and you can do it.
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http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/03/29/296381_ntnews.html (http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/03/29/296381_ntnews.html)
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HI ALL A lot of good advice there but if you have a med. problem see your GP before you jump in. My wife and I keep fit we are in our late 50,s both go to gyms me for the last 10yrs wife 15yrs I weigh 92kg I do free weights wife weighs 52kg and does a boxers training and a lot of PT.She is super fit but was told last week she is too light and must gain weight I was told the opposite to loose weight but im not overweight just bulked up. This is where this weight chart one size fits all doesn,t add up.I think you know if your not fit you could be in the weight range on the chart but it means nothing.Every year when I have my medical doc says every thing is good but you still are overweight I say Bulls### and he points to his chart and says yes yes yes. Tinkera.
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HI ALL A lot of good advice there but if you have a med. problem see your GP before you jump in. My wife and I keep fit we are in our late 50,s both go to gyms me for the last 10yrs wife 15yrs I weigh 92kg I do free weights wife weighs 52kg and does a boxers training and a lot of PT.She is super fit but was told last week she is too light and must gain weight I was told the opposite to loose weight but im not overweight just bulked up. This is where this weight chart one size fits all doesn,t add up.I think you know if your not fit you could be in the weight range on the chart but it means nothing.Every year when I have my medical doc says every thing is good but you still are overweight I say Bulls### and he points to his chart and says yes yes yes. Tinkera.
Hi Tinkera
Whilst I understand what you have expressed, I am absolutely tired of listening to the so called experts. I would much rather glean what I can from what the average person (of which I am one) has learned through life experience.
I consider diabetes to be the same as many other conditions, and there are so many people with diabetes that by saying "this is what I want to know", then I find out various methodologies that will allow me to achieve my goal.
I have received quite a few messages from other diabetics, and they too feel the same as I do. Amazingly there is a variety of things that can be done, without rattling from tablets, that help one control the diabetes. Since I have been reading the responses, I have also started reading food labels, and I am shocked as to how many food varieties contain copious amounts of sugar, it is scary to say the least.
Thankyou for sharing with me.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Have hit 40kg total loss.
Well close enough, I was 116kg fully clothed after drinking a 1L smoothie (peppermint tea, mixed berries, coconut oil, whey protein, ground almond and flax seed, and some chia seed). I'm guessing that should be enough to put an extra 1kg on.
Forgot to weigh in before I got ready.
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Hi Tjupurula your really in the right headspace to change your life I,ve always tried the self help path and most times it has worked for me.Like I said before your the only one who knows how you feel if your happy how your living life or enjoying it.The other + about keeping fit is it flows on to your family my two girls are both into keeping fit but are still having a good time as well.Keep a post on your progress and the best of luck. Tinkera.
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I have also started reading food labels, and I am shocked as to how many food varieties contain copious amounts of sugar, it is scary to say the least.
This is the biggie with the no sugar approach advocated back in my original post. The rule with that one is you avoid anything that has more the 5grams per 100 sugar. There are all sorts of things that exceed that that you would never think of, everything from peanut butter to BBQ sauce can have huge amounts of sugar. The other thing to watch is the foods that most people see as "healthy", the stand out one being dried fruit. Something like a dried apricot has nearly as much sugar as a chocolate bar. BUT everyone says, what is wrong I eat normal apricots, these are just minus the water. BUT how often do you just eat 1 or 2 dried apricots, if you are like me it is a handful a dozen or so - most people wouldn't eat 12 fresh apricots in one hit. Dried fruit also has fructose - one of the worst sugars for the body. That is the the other thing with the no sugar approach my wife and I are on, there are good and bad sugars. Glucose is good, dextrose (the sugar in beer) is good, sucrose (Table sugar) is bad and fructose is bad.
Just another 2c from me.
Good Luck all!
Cheers
Rod
BTW - belt has just gone in another notch!
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Hi All,
Its been a while since I have checked the site, Since there was some interest in my weight loss i thought I would share.
Basically you need to get your metabolism working correctly, as un natural is this will seem to do stick with it
Eat every 2 1/2 hours, at first you wont feel hungry and will be thinking that eating when your not hungry will make you put weight on and it will for a week or so. This teaches your body that there is always food coming and it wont store fats, Once your metabolism is working you should be burning off a meal within 2 hours and be hungry 1/2 hour after that, so heres what i was doing
Wake up at 6am, take a 1/2 hour walk before breakfast, this will burn any fat stored from prevuis day plus a little extra,
Breakfast at 7 30am, usually just a bowl of musli or weetbix with Skim milk
930 - 10 am ish, varuios fruit, doesnt matter how much you have
12:30 Lunch, I was having alot of salad with either tuna, kangaroo or chicken
3pm, Protein shake or fruit, I chose the protien shake (water Based) as it was very filling and I wasnt consuming any calories
6pm dinner, again salad with either tuna, salmon, kangaroo or chicken
30 minute walk after dinner.
9pm another water based protein shake same reason as 3pm shake
bed around 10 30pm
All of my eating was low carb however you need to be in touch with your body as when you become extreemly low on carbs your body will turn to your protein stores (muscle) for food and you will start depleting your muscle, Bad breath will be the most obviuos sign of a lack of carbs, Google Ketosis.
I have attached a copy of my eating plan, have a read but bear in mind the calories are very low, you may need to adjust this a little, I would also suggest having one day a week where you relax your eating and have whatever you feel like, also dont be shy to have a beer with friends and once every 6 weeks have a week off the eating plan alltogether, it's good to shock the body.
My diary doesnt show liquid intake, basically all I had was water, however if you enjoy a coffee or tea dont be shy but i strongly suggest no dairy after 6pm and always skim milk, I did have the odd coffee every now and then
I would reccomend keeping an eating diary over a 1 week period just so that you are totally aware of your eating habbits
I am now on a body building program which involves a hell of a lot of food which is also on the eating plan,(dont mix them up) I have opted to go this way to build lean muscle which i am now 5 weeks in and loving it.
Please if you have any questions dont be shy to ask
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Have hit 40kg total loss.
Well close enough, I was 116kg fully clothed after drinking a 1L smoothie (peppermint tea, mixed berries, coconut oil, whey protein, ground almond and flax seed, and some chia seed). I'm guessing that should be enough to put an extra 1kg on.
Forgot to weigh in before I got ready.
Hi John
Really great effort there, and you have me extremely envious to say the least.
Tjupurula
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Hi Variflex
I have found basically something very similar on line, aslthough I cannot remember where. I will not comment as to how good it is for me yet, as I have not yet followed such a regime.
Thankyou for the information.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi Roddersz
Yes you are correct. As I said, it stunned me how many things actually have too much sugar in them. It almost seemed that if you were watching the sugar, and the salt, there would be very little that you could actually buy off the shelf. Kind of a disconcerting thought that.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi all
I may as well throw in my lot as far as weight reduction.
Since January to this day-60 days, I have managed to reduce my weight by 10 kgs. I have been getting http://www.liteneasy.com.au/. (http://www.liteneasy.com.au/.) They are delivered to my door. Each week I order the 3 meals per day and 1500 calorie 7 day plan. All meals are so nice and I do not feel hungry. My normal activities include riding a road bike up to 240 kms per week but during this period to now I have had about 4 weeks off due to being a bit unwell but not related to the diet.
Each day, I attempt to drink at least 2 litres of water plus several coffees. Make sure that you back off the water by mid afternoon or you may spend some time visiting the toilet during the night!
To do away with sugar, which seems to be in a lot of food, I have started using either Xylitol or Stevia which I have bought on line from http://www.naturallysweet.com.au (http://www.naturallysweet.com.au)
Hope that is some use to you.
Cheers
DW
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Hi DW
I will be looking at a couple of those sites you have mentioned. I already use equal instead of sugar, but that is because of the diabetes, and I am into additional water as well, plus my coke zero, which I do enjoy. I have actually dropped 5.6 kg's in just under two weeks, but intend to slow that down a bit, so that it becomes permanent and manageable.
Regards
Tjupurula
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I already use equal instead of sugar, but that is because of the diabetes
Here's another catch! According to some recent research, SOME (and I can never remember which ones) of the artificial sweeteners can actually still stimulate an insulin response - obviously for a diabetic this can a big issue, but from a weight loss perspective though, as it produces an insulin response it stimulates the body into fat production too. I THINK from memory it is saccharine in equal which is ok (and given you are diabetic I would hope the dietician would have recommended the right ones). A quick Google of insulin and artificial sweeteners will show you some of the details. I do remember that sorbitol and manitol are bad. I have avoided artificial sweeteners in everything but the coke zero - you have to have something to put Bundy in! Coffee is the only other thing, but I am working my way down from 2 sugars to 1 now and hoping for none with the next month or so.
Cheers
Rod
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Hey Rod
Equal must be okay, as it never seems to affect my BSL (blood sugar level) and I test myself 6 or 7 times a day. Mind you, full cream milk, whioch apparently has no sugar in it, puts my BSL straight through the roof, as does most fruit, kind of strange, but that is what happens.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hey Rod
Equal must be okay, as it never seems to affect my BSL (blood sugar level) and I test myself 6 or 7 times a day. Mind you, full cream milk, whioch apparently has no sugar in it, puts my BSL straight through the roof, as does most fruit, kind of strange, but that is what happens.
Regards
Tjupurula
The lactose (it is a sugar) in Milk can put your blood sugar up, but fact checking says only slightly. I thought fructose in fruit could as well but a quick fact check says no.
I have been heard a bit about supposed "low gi" foods that end up having a massive effect on BSLs. The more information I gather the more conflicts that occur, so frustrating.
Glad to hear you've managed to drop a few kilos off yourself. Seems I've managed to gain 700g (since Friday), probably just variance in my fluid levels and hopefully some muscle mass although I did go a little overboard on the carbs when I was in town, so fat is an option. I did increase my workout on Friday (left me with some very shaky muscles), Saturday I did about 45 mins worth on exercise and yesterday I jogged a km, but not much else.
The next week is going to be a challenge to keep weight off, I'm heading to Sydney and won't have my full workout session at the gym for a fortnight. Eating within the diet constraints is a lot harder away from home, I can do most of my home exercises though as they are mostly using my own body weight rather than equipment, I'm spending one day looking at campers (just looking for the time being) and another at the Easter show, both of them I'm going to struggle with getting a healthy lunch, the rest of the time is downtime for me, others have stuff to do though.
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How's everyone going?
Surprised I managed to lose any in the last few weeks, I've had a hay-fevery/asthma/man flu sort of thing ever since getting home, and barely able to exercise beyond trying to cough up a lung, plus I ate quite poorly for the week I mentioned above, including getting on the rum.
I've only lost a 1kg in 20 days though so much slower progress than when I first started. Although technically I got up to 117kg after Sydney, and I'm down to 114kg now so not too far off the pace if I hadn't had the set back.
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H John
I have managed to get from 139.7 kg down to 133 kg in the 3 1/2 weeks since I started. Admittedly I have been more determined than I normally would have been, but that is for other reasons.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Great work.
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I finally got under the 85kg mark from a high of 95kg. Sadly none of this :cheers: to celebrate.
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Hi all
I may as well throw in my lot as far as weight reduction.
Since January to this day-60 days, I have managed to reduce my weight by 10 kgs. I have been getting http://www.liteneasy.com.au/. (http://www.liteneasy.com.au/.) They are delivered to my door. Each week I order the 3 meals per day and 1500 calorie 7 day plan. All meals are so nice and I do not feel hungry. My normal activities include riding a road bike up to 240 kms per week but during this period to now I have had about 4 weeks off due to being a bit unwell but not related to the diet.
Each day, I attempt to drink at least 2 litres of water plus several coffees. Make sure that you back off the water by mid afternoon or you may spend some time visiting the toilet during the night!
To do away with sugar, which seems to be in a lot of food, I have started using either Xylitol or Stevia which I have bought on line from http://www.naturallysweet.com.au (http://www.naturallysweet.com.au)
Hope that is some use to you.
Cheers
DW
Mate just be careful when i was cycling in melb 250k per week and doing the crits on the weekend there is no way i could survive on 1500cal. Or if i could my performance would be so lacking it was not worth it. You may say that you feeling unwell is not due to the diet but just be careful you are not running yourself down into a cronic fatigue senario. As you are on a restricted diet you may need to look at a tablet supplement due to the minerals you would be loosing through sweat when riding those kind of k's.
I know personally when i get into the big k's i loose about 10k but actually increase my cal intake. Well done for your fitness just want to make sure you are not setting yourself up for a blow out down the track.
If i take the kind of k's you are doing on the bike at say 20kph you are buring approx 7500cal per week on your 1500cal per day diet you are only consuming 10500cal per week. Remeber that you will need cals for recovery and gaining strength, your left over cals to do this is very low. I would at least be having 1 2000cal day per week of mineral rich foods as a recovery day.
I do not pretend to be an expert however being a cyclist with cerebral pawlsy as well has forced me to become very in tune with my body and its needs expecially with regards to nutrition
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Hows everyone going?
Still sticking with it?
I've lost near on 10kg since my birthday in April. Started off with a detox and colon cleanse.
Started eating healthy and smaller portions, weight started dropping off. Now 86kg down from a high of 102kg. My ideal weight is 76kg, was 78kg when I got married 4 years ago this late September. Put on over nearly 20kg over about just 18 months, comfort eating, boredom eating, depressive eating, etc.
Eating healthy, eating very delicious, eating enough, eating correct tines, never feeling hungry, not craving sweets or fatty foods, not craving chocs/ice cream/ cake etc, need to exercise more, sleeping a little better, drinking lots of water, no soda/beer/alcohol which I don't miss, and happy the way its going.
Still need another 10kg to get under the weight I last was since before I hit 30 years and couldn't burn it off away as I used to.
Wife is also doing the same, same eating routine, similar cut down etc, shes dropping on average about 600-700g a week, I'm doing about 1.2kg a week, wife don't weigh a fraction of what I weighed when we started.
I'm down to a reasonable and respectable 1.2kg loss a week down from 1.6/.17 when I first started. Seeks to be levelling off now to a steady rate. Very happy so far.still going good.
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I've lost about 5Kg since March, just watching what I eat and walking a bit more during the day. Not very quick but very doable if I live until I get to my goal weight. 125 -> 90
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Well done Noel, great effort.
I was 140.5 kg when I first posted this, and I am currently 126.7 kg, as of about 1 hour ago., so I must be something right. I can actually walk more than 100 metres without having a 10 minute rest, so things are starting to improve.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Congrats Tjupurula and all the other "losers", I shed 10% and aint looking back, keep up the good work :cheers:
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Good work everyone, keep it up, you feel much better for it.
I've been fluctuating a bit as a get closer to my goal weight and step up the workouts physically.
Currently 112.7kg (as of yesterday morning), so only 2kg down since April :(
Can see a difference in the body though, couldn't put off some clothes shopping any longer, I was starting to look ridiculous in my old 5-6xl clothes. I'm comfortably down to XXL, can get away with some XL cuts, but some XXL cuts don't fit properly. I did have some xxl stuff before, but it was a bit tight, now (without having worn it much to stretch it out) that stuff is a bit loose and all the new stuff fits comfortably, I nearly grabbed the xl's as motivation, but a lot of them didn't fit my shoulders.
Still want to get around the 100kg mark, but not expecting to get under it, I don't think I'm carrying enough fat to do so, especially if I keep up the weight gain, while getting smaller. I've lost enough fat to make a noticeable visual difference to my body shape without actually losing much weight for 2-3 months now.
I certainly feel lighter despite not having lost much, everything is just easier. I'll catch myself jogging between destinations when there is no hurry, just because I can. And occasionally I'll pick something up and carry it around with no effort then someone will point out that it's 50kg.
Yesterday I caught two young sheep (bit under a year) in the middle of the paddock, first I outran and grabbed normally, second I caught while carrying the first. They were probably a touch under 20kg each, but my estimation of weights has been way off lately. Then I carried them both a few hundred metres to the shed they were refusing to go in. No burning muscles, no panting for breath, nothing. Six months ago I probably would've managed one with some panting, 2 months ago I'd have probably caught both of them, but could not have carried them.
Also a week ago I figured out I can do one-armed push-ups with my feet balanced on one of those big bouncy fit ball things :D
So hopefully I'm still on the right track :cheers:
Haven't changed the diet, but the naturopath that put me onto it wants me to cut a bit more diary, and change my smoothies a bit.
New recipe
50% Veggie juice
50% Fruit juice
2 eggs (raw)
Yes I realise that if I have 50% of veggies and 50% of fruit the eggs make the smoothie add up to more than 100%. I'm yet to try it out.
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Good work everyone, keep it up, you feel much better for it.
Can see a difference in the body though, couldn't put off some clothes shopping any longer, I was starting to look ridiculous in my old 5-6xl clothes. I'm comfortably down to XXL, can get away with some XL cuts, but some XXL cuts don't fit properly. I did have some xxl stuff before, but it was a bit tight, now (without having worn it much to stretch it out) that stuff is a bit loose and all the new stuff fits comfortably, I nearly grabbed the xl's as motivation, but a lot of them didn't fit my shoulders.
Still want to get around the 100kg mark, but not expecting to get under it, I don't think I'm carrying enough fat to do so, especially if I keep up the weight gain, while getting smaller. I've lost enough fat to make a noticeable visual difference to my body shape without actually losing much weight for 2-3 months now.
I certainly feel lighter despite not having lost much, everything is just easier. I'll catch myself jogging between destinations when there is no hurry, just because I can. And occasionally I'll pick something up and carry it around with no effort then someone will point out that it's 50kg.
Yesterday I caught two young sheep (bit under a year) in the middle of the paddock, first I outran and grabbed normally, second I caught while carrying the first. They were probably a touch under 20kg each, but my estimation of weights has been way off lately. Then I carried them both a few hundred metres to the shed they were refusing to go in. No burning muscles, no panting for breath, nothing. Six months ago I probably would've managed one with some panting, 2 months ago I'd have probably caught both of them, but could not have carried them.
Also a week ago I figured out I can do one-armed push-ups with my feet balanced on one of those big bouncy fit ball things :D
So hopefully I'm still on the right track :cheers:
Maaaate, if your slugging 50kg around, catching sheep in the middle of a paddock and fitting into XL then id say you are most definately winning the battle,,,
one armed push ups :cup: take my hat off.
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Maaaate, if your slugging 50kg around, catching sheep in the middle of a paddock and fitting into XL then id say you are most definately winning the battle,,,
one armed push ups :cup: take my hat off.
Thanks, I was certain I couldn't do the push-ups, but the trainer told me I had to try. I only managed 5 on each arm and I was sloppy, not the perfectly held posture. And to be fair I have probably lost almost as much weight as the 2 sheep weighed, so it was only really like what walking used to be.
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Well I finally hit 82.9kg which is 12.1kg loss in about two months.
Reduced my portion size and no snacking or fatty stuff. Son bought me a sausage roll yesterday and I only got 1/2 way through before chucking it away.
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Okay Dazzler, now I am jealous. I have been doing okay, and have gone back to 126 kg, but the quackter told me it was a normal reaction to the insulin and should settle down fast. First time I have ever been told by a doctor to slow down on the weight loss. He told me to keep exercising, but not to aim for anything more than about 1/2 kg a week, that I can do fairly easily.
Tjupurula
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Well I finally hit 82.9kg which is 12.1kg loss in about two months.
Well done. :cup:
I'm still stalled on 112kg, although still getting visible and physical results. I was hoping I could get under 100kg, but it's looking less and less likely. I'm actually fairly happy with where I'm at now. I'm still carrying too much, enough that it would bring me under 100kg if I lost it all, but I'm not interested in being stick thin. My goal now is more about body shape than weight.
Played tennis to*looks at time*yesterday 5 sets with a fair bit of running and remained mostly light on my feet up until the final set, my court speed is up a long way from even a month ago. I did have sore legs last time though so that slowed me up a bit, but then again the sore legs were from the workout on Friday, I did a harder workout on Friday this time and had no muscle soreness/stiffness this time.
It's easier for me to keep track of how much fitter/stronger/faster I'm getting than it is to track weight loss now, it's amazing how quickly a body can recover.
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Fitted into a suit tonight I haven't been able to wear since 2007.
Was pretty chuffed and the good wife was pretty proud of me.
The chef baked a bunch of cakes/tarts/desserts today for sale. Enter lick the bowl/spoon or dunk my fingers in any of them.
That's stamina!!
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HI all
Sorry missed a couple of posts.
I finally hit my goal weight. Under 80kg
79.5kg
I was amazed how easy it turned out to be once I got my mind in the right space and for me that was simply (to say, not to do) that food is just fuel for the body and not a leisure activity.
In the past my mum was very overweight and tried lots of diets and never really got anywhere. I tried a few and had the same result.
But this one worked for me. I just forgot about food as a desire. Of a morning I would have two or three high fibre weet bix with lite milk. Then nothing at all until I got home from work by which time I was starving. Dinner was a small bowl or plate of whatever the family was eating and as soon as I finished I left the table.
Around lunch time I would feel the hunger coming on and in the past this would make me think god I am hungry. Changed my mindset to thank god my body is eating its fat. "Woohoo!" Weight loss time!. Would even walk into the meal room and pick up a packet of chips and get the saliva juices perculating and then check out the fat content and think - "Yuk - imagine putting that crap in my body" :D
The big thing for me was changing the mindset and actually enjoying the fact that I was hungry as this meant I was losing weight. I reckon this is the key, at least for me.
Health wise my poor old knees, damaged playing footy, have never been better seeing as they are not carrying around a spare bag of cement :cheers:
Good luck all!
cheers
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Fitted into a suit tonight I haven't been able to wear since 2007.
Was pretty chuffed and the good wife was pretty proud of me.
The chef baked a bunch of cakes/tarts/desserts today for sale. Enter lick the bowl/spoon or dunk my fingers in any of them.
That's stamina!!
:cheers:
Sweeet!
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HI all
Sorry missed a couple of posts.
I finally hit my goal weight. Under 80kg
79.5kg
I was amazed how easy it turned out to be once I got my mind in the right space and for me that was simply (to say, not to do) that food is just fuel for the body and not a leisure activity.
In the past my mum was very overweight and tried lots of diets and never really got anywhere. I tried a few and had the same result.
But this one worked for me. I just forgot about food as a desire. Of a morning I would have two or three high fibre weet bix with lite milk. Then nothing at all until I got home from work by which time I was starving. Dinner was a small bowl or plate of whatever the family was eating and as soon as I finished I left the table.
Around lunch time I would feel the hunger coming on and in the past this would make me think god I am hungry. Changed my mindset to thank god my body is eating its fat. "Woohoo!" Weight loss time!. Would even walk into the meal room and pick up a packet of chips and get the saliva juices perculating and then check out the fat content and think - "Yuk - imagine putting that crap in my body" :D
The big thing for me was changing the mindset and actually enjoying the fact that I was hungry as this meant I was losing weight. I reckon this is the key, at least for me.
Health wise my poor old knees, damaged playing footy, have never been better seeing as they are not carrying around a spare bag of cement :cheers:
Good luck all!
cheers
Well done dazzler. I have lost 10kg in 5 weeks but still a bit to go to get downbtonyour number
Cheers
Greg
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Dropped under the 80kg mark, which i am very happy with.
Levelled off and now not so anal anymore, don't mind enjoying a cold beer aftêr hard days work(Just one or two) or enjoying morning tea with my mum and a piece of cake she's made.
Happy to have got so far and hopefully I can keep it at bay and still enjoy a few little indulgences occasionally.
The 20 odd kgs I dropped,weighed more thn my traavel bag. No wonder puffed out after carrying a suitcase around all day.
Best part though
........my self esteem and confidence has increased while weight has decreased. Now don't feel embarrassed thug I had bigger breasts than the missus.....ha ha ha
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Hi All,
Congrats to all of you who are losing weight.
Dazzler, I like your comments on mindset, I might try that one.
I hope to get rid of close to 30Kg, however very much doubt I will ever get below the ton.
I have recently quit smoking and for the first time in my life the Doc was no so concerned about my weight. Give it a couple more months and I am sure he will get back onto that.
Bunyip
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Hi All,
Congrats to all of you who are losing weight.
Dazzler, I like your comments on mindset, I might try that one.
I hope to get rid of close to 30Kg, however very much doubt I will ever get below the ton.
I have recently quit smoking and for the first time in my life the Doc was no so concerned about my weight. Give it a couple more months and I am sure he will get back onto that.
Bunyip
Best of luck mate. I think it is all in the mind. I drove into town today at lunch and on the way back there is a milk bar that sells pies/chips/chiko rolls etc. On the way in I was thinking I would love a chiko roll and some chips. And it was on my mind while in town and then driving back. But thought, hey, why bother grabbed a ham sandwich. Much better. But the old brain was thinking 'mmmmmmm - chiko roll!"
;D
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Thought I would revive this tipic with my story,
Always was a bigger kid growing up but very fit, I know it doesnt make sence. When I was 15 (year 10 at school) i was at my fittest. I was playing in 4 different rugby league teams training up to 8 times a week, left school and went into a trade stopped playing most footy bar 1 team and begain to eat the normal tradie food, pies, burgers, hot chip.my weight shot up to about 105 kgs.
got married, got an office job and kept eating crap. slowly the weight kept creeping up. left the office job tried all the gimicks, meal replacements ect didnt work.
My big turning point was I did a measure in a unit about 10 floors up in a unit and I was out of breath. I was 33 years old, 144kgs. I left the job and driving back home said to my self I would give anything to be fitter again.
I drove straight to a personal trainning studio which one of my mates brothers ran and said help. which he did? he told me I would be dead in 20 years if I did do something. So I did.
As of today, in one year I have lost 38 kgs. Im down to 106kgs. Im back to my old ways, I train 5 days a week, most days before and after work. the weight is still falling of and I love heading to the gym.
Yes it cost money to see a personal trainer, cost me $100 a week,but if someone came up to me and said I can make you 40kg lighter for $5000 I would of jumped at the chance. I would of spent more than $100 a week on bad food.
We all pay to maintain our cars our campers yet most of us fail to look after ourselves.
I hope that someone reads this and get inspired and can do what I did and what others have done.
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Fantastic story Goldie!
Have you found that not carrying the weight makes you feel heaps lighter?
:cheers:
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Bugger!!!
I dragged up the daily rant thread. I was secretely hoping this one would stay buried.
Lost the 20kgs, did well. Was quite happy.
Went through a bit of a bad patch, put the 20kgs back on again. Back to 100kge had noclothes fitting me.
Bugger, thanks for reminding me. Hope wife doesn't read this. She's already kicking my butt. Just not hard enough.
Although I need to want to do it myself for ditto happen.
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Three things have worked for me.
First was not changing the way I eat, but, I bought a motocross bike and spent most weekends out with a mate. That lost me about 20kg a a few months and I stayed at around 105kg until that mate took a job in Africa and I stopped ridding and sold the bike. (there's that 'burn more then you eat thing)
Second I did the Tony Ferguson diet for a few weeks with my wife, It made her sick but I lost 5kg in two weeks.
The third, I had gall stones and fatty food set the pain off big time. The pain was debilitating during an attack and often lasted for hours.
A friend had been managing the same issue by only buying food with 10 grams of fat or less. I tried that while I was waiting for my operation to have my gall bladder out I lost about 15kg.
Right now I'd be happy to drop back down to 105kg-ish. I haven't been under 100kg since I was 16 so that almost 14 years.
I always did feel better at that weight.
My problem is I don't find regular forms of exercise in any way stimulating or enjoyable.
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We all pay to maintain our cars our campers yet most of us fail to look after ourselves.
I hope that someone reads this and get inspired and can do what I did and what others have done.
And mate, you look fantastic for it. Well done.
I hope you don't mind that I mention that you also inspired your wife to do the same, and she also looks fantastic for it. You two have made a big difference to your lives, and those around you who are inspired by the changes you have made.
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Hi Goldie,
What a fantastic story.
I have started to lose weight since I had a heart scare, turned out to be nothing but a wake up call for a lazy 40 year old sloth.
At this stage it is mainly portion control on my behalf, have to get into the excercise but I tend to push myself too hard, hurt too much then give up.
My 19 year old just said he wants to get back into Union, so the two of us will work on it together.
Until I get ajob I am not in a position to go to a personal trainer or gym, so it will be the local park and streets for me.
Bunyip
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Great work Goldie!
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A very inspiring thread.
Will be starting similar with the squeeze soon myself.
We could both do with losing a few kgs.
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I need to lose a few kg's too, from my extensive research I think you need to exercise with an elevated,heart rate for about half an hour before bed so you can go to sleep with an elevated metabolism.
Now I wonder what a suitable activity can be chosen to achieve this??
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Squash? ;D
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I need to lose a few kg's too, from my extensive research I think you need to exercise with an elevated,heart rate for about half an hour before bed so you can go to sleep with an elevated metabolism.
Now I wonder what a suitable activity can be chosen to achieve this??
so what do you do for the other 29 minutes
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I often use that excuse to the wife..........
Come on love, it helps me sleep better.
She doesnt believe me though.
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I need to lose a few kg's too, from my extensive research I think you need to exercise with an elevated,heart rate for about half an hour before bed so you can go to sleep with an elevated metabolism.
Now I wonder what a suitable activity can be chosen to achieve this??
Check your Super balance, realise you'll never be able to retire, the kids will probabaly never leave home, and you'll need to sell your 4wd to pay the electricity bills.....aaagh can't sleep, stress is making my heart go faster......
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some words of wisdom that where passed onto me some years ago......"You cant out exercise a bad diet.".. :cheers: