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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chriso100 on March 03, 2012, 01:40:18 PM
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What is the camping 'right thing to do" when trying to save a campsite for other families arriving in your area later? What are everyonse thoughts?
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All depends on how busy it is and where you are. We do it regulary at xmas but I take my BIL's tent and put it up for him. We also have a sunshade tent that we put up to save some room and then replace it with a trailer if needed.
We tend to camp away from others in the mountains most of the time so as not to have the problem
GG
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Carry a really big extra ground mesh sheet. Cover the area you want to save, put a table and chairs on it, and use it as your 'chat space' until they arrive.
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Underkill rather than overkill!
Dont try and cordon off a really large area during a busy time.
Try and pick a discrete area that will fit your group - even if a bit squeezy, and set up a bit spread out. Most people will try and pick an area by themselves anyway.
In quiet times not so much of an issue.
Lastly, if very busy and someone comes in and stops to look for a spot, at least explain to them whats happening. They may even be nice people like us who you would enjoy camping with.
:cheers:
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Good advice there Mace, or unhitch and maybe park a vehicle or two there?
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We will have this fun when we turn up with 28 vehicles at the Cape. We may have to say we have 28 jehovah witnesses coming and we pray to our xxxx brothers and sisters to all hours of the night :cheers:
Mark
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* loud music
* a flag at the track entrance to make it look like the whole section is taken .
* carry a few signs with you , such as ...
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae110/shootnrun_photos/My%20Swag%20Misc/sign.jpg) (http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae110/shootnrun_photos/My%20Swag%20Misc/sign-zone.jpg)
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Get a sign made up .......
Sorry for the inconvenience, nudist convention !!
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I've often thought about having a sign made up, something like "The Believers Naturist 4wd club, hymn hour each midnight"
But since we got our dogs, and out friends who usually go camping with us have two as well, just lining up the dog bowls to feed four german shepherds near the camp entrance track seems to put a lot of people off...
:cheers:
Dave
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Get a sign made up .......
Sorry for the inconvenience, nudist convention !!
I'm not shure about this one......you might have ALOT of very unattractive company!
Rick
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What is the camping 'right thing to do" when trying to save a campsite for other families arriving in your area later?
What are everyonse thoughts?
I pulled into a great camp site at Cleaverville Beach some years back and the guy come out of the van beside where I wanted to camp and informed me his mate was coming up from 'down south' and he wanted the spot for him, so I moved to the next site as I thought it was the right thing to do.
Fantastic thing about it was his mate had a boat and I had a heap of crab traps, the three of us got on famously for the time we were all camped there.
We remain in contact 13 yrs later ;D
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We will have this fun when we turn up with 28 vehicles at the Cape. We may have to say we have 28 jehovah witnesses coming and we pray to our xxxx brothers and sisters to all hours of the night :cheers:
Mark
but yogi converted so many last year ;D Is there anyone left >:D
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Build a huge fire invite everybody around & play Slim Dusty ALLNIGHT . I love it though some dont . Funny are smoe people ;D
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Take a white cross and pretend it is a grave site from somebody who died on that campsite
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Take a white cross and pretend it is a grave site from somebody who died on that campsite
Eventully ;D
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Other side of the argument, last year when we were doing the Kimberley we arrived at Windjana Gorge and the place was packed. We drove around and finally found a spot and when we were backing up a bloke came over and said he is holding that spot for a friend. There was absolutely no other place left. We had to go into a section reserved for tour groups and set up there. We later spoke to some rangers and explained why we were there and how the only spot we found was being held. They said we would have to move if a tour group wants that spot and they said the practise of holding spots is not allowed, it is totally first in. We were not that happy and also believed because we were there first we should have been able to set up in the spot we first found. It all turned out OK as no tour group came. Just another point of view. Mind you we have held spots for friends but placed chairs there, but not when all other places are full. And I am not sure about the places set aside for tour groups. Some of these areas are large and better maintained, but that is another argument. :D Kevin
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Just do what a couple of young bucks did to us in Aberfeldy a few years ago: Rock up just on dusk, hoon around the 5 acre site like idiots then set up 50m from us (Not another sole in the whole area......)with a Projector and Screen and watch Arnie DVD's at the Car Stereo's Max Volume setting. Oh sorry, you wanted to know the right way to reserve a spot tactfully and respect others when camping. Sorry. These boys couldnt help you..... :(
Seriously though, i've used chairs and the "park the tug" method, but sometimes ya just say to someone " Sorry, my mate's on his way up now, he/she'll be here in the (insert timeframe)" 99% of people would respect that. Problem is the 1% who wouldn't, you dont want camped next to you either, which makes it worse. and they dont wear a badge thats says "Unreasonable Bastard" on their shirt, so ya dont know until the shouting starts........
Alternatively, Chain a Rotweiler to a stake in the reserved area...that ought to fix it ;)
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I just realised .... my sister in law has a fancy dress shop .
Should get something like this next time I go away ....
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae110/shootnrun_photos/My%20Swag%20Stuff/leatherface-costume.jpg)
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We have been on the other side of the coin also.
Went to a popular location that has been the site of a large Myswag gathering, and is prone to inundation after a lot of rain.
Now this location has some lovely new concrete caravan pads and some high ground along the river front.
So what area did the van club take?
Of course the high ground, leaving only the low wet areas for CT's and campers in general. >:(
SWMBO- "There's not much room, shall we go up to the NP?"
Went there, no room either.
So we came back to the original spot.
So we pull up to a spot the other side of the fence from the vans, just about the only high ground left as it had been raining quite heavily earlier in the week.
Old mate the caretaker drives past 3 times while we are setting up (1.5hrs). Finally he stops and says "such and such is a regular and he might come up so you will have to move."
At that I crack it and tell Mr Caretaker " You have driven past here 3 times and tell us to move now? Besides, I dont see his name on the spot and he isnt here now, is he."
Him "I'm just sayin' that's all"
Me "Well perhaps if these caravans had not taken all the dry ground there would be more room for campers. Tell you what, If such and such the regular turns up and we have to move, then pack up we will and never return, and neither will our friends."
Him "hmph" drives off.
After this "discussion" I had several calming ales whilst the kids played, the agro of the arrival fading away.
Regular never showed, floogged down rain Sunday and Monday. Had 4" of water in out kitchen area by the time we left the site.
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Jon, we have been to the same spot many times....and when we are on our own we generally go up the top...sure there are normally no toilets, but its usually peaceful, quiet and more like bush camping..
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Isn't that what gen-sets are for....maybe not.
The wife says my snoring is enough to make anyone want to move.
Tjupurula
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Been in another situation ... we are both (us and them) in a completely empty campsite ... not another camper for about 1/2k. They stand in front of our vehicle to prevent us going into a site as they can't get their CV in because of us. "We always come into this site every time ... it's ours ... we won't be moving so you'd just better reverse out now ..." We both got out of the car and walked away, leaving them to do the whole "person fence" for this site ... discussion ensues ... we'll let them have it, but 'Man That's Just Plain Rude'.
Luckily, Fate stated that vehicles would go up and down past this site till the wee hours. They needed to put the foot down to get up a small steep section after a creek crossing, right next to their CV.
I'm so glad we let them have it. ;D We ended up with 4 other very quiet campers as company where we decided to put up camp, had easy access to the main creek and were closer to a main entry information area, so cars usually slowed down or stopped and then took off slowly, as their was a loo block nearby.
To this day, I still can't believe their audacity ... and they say to be respectful of your elders? Some just don't warant it.
Kit_e
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So reserving spots is OK to do? hmmm So when does it become "No Joke" ? i.e. How long can you reserve a spot for before it becomes beyond a joke?
- That Day?
- Over night till next day?
- Indefinitely?
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"We always come into this site every time ... it's ours ... we won't be moving so you'd just better reverse out now ..."
Kit_e
Holy crap...where do people get off on this attitude? It's their site because they go there every time? How does that work?!? What about the other people that camp in that same site the other 99 percent of the time!?
That kind of thing really bugs me...you guys handled it a lot nicer than I probably would...now, where is that big chainsaw I've got round here... ;D >:D
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Years ago we went to Moreton Island around mid November I think it was , and got a really good spot ( on the calm side , with a creek ) .
We were there for a week and half , the first weekend people just kept calling in , and asking when were we leaving.
We would say , not until the next weekend . ( thinking they were wanting to set up right then )
Finally when someone who showed up in a boat asked us as well , we asked back ,whether they were setting up that day , and he said , No .
Then it was explained to us that people would put just one single tent on the site , and pay the minimum fee , just to save that spot until the Christmas School Holidays came along in a few weeks time !
So sure enough when it came time for us to pack up , there was a family waiting in our camp spot to put up their tent and get on the same barge home as us .
But because we were in no hurry , these people insisted that they should be allowed to put up their tent in our camp so as not to miss the barge .
What a joke ... I think the booking system changed after that .
But I couldn't help but see the funny side , that if you were a single back packer , you could have stayed in any of those Phantom Camp sites for free ..... :laugh:
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Holy crap...where do people get off on this attitude? It's their site because they go there every time? How does that work?!? What about the other people that camp in that same site the other 99 percent of the time!?
That kind of thing really bugs me...you guys handled it a lot nicer than I probably would...now, where is that big chainsaw I've got round here... ;D >:D
Oh? Did I forget to mention my slightly inebriated wander at about 11pm, barking, howling, and laughing my arse off? Sorry. :angel: Hope they got more sleep the second night. ;D
Kit_e
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Then it was explained to us that people would put just one single tent on the site , and pay the minimum fee , just to save that spot until the Christmas School Holidays came along in a few weeks time !
Hi,
unbelievable!
Some of our East Coast popular spots like Peg's Beach and Freycinet get crowded at School holiday time I believe, but I don't think Tassie is that bad. - Yet!
Spots like that are best used in the middle of winter, after the rain and weather have 'sanitised' the earth for a month or two.
cheers
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Hi,
unbelievable!
Some of our East Coast popular spots like Peg's Beach and Freycinet get crowded at School holiday time I believe, but I don't think Tassie is that bad. - Yet!
Spots like that are best used in the middle of winter, after the rain and weather have 'sanitised' the earth for a month or two.
cheers
Yes it was like this just prior to xmas at swimcart. A bloke setup an old tent and sat an even older chair in front of it and told us he does it hold his spot! Been coming to the same spot for years etc.
The worse part was the place was packed and genuine campers were turning around because they couldn't find a suitable spot.
Then a day or so later a lady asked us if we saw anyone near hers and her friends caravan because they had their tyres slashed. I asked if it had happened over night, she replied that she didnt know when it happened because they put the vans there a week ago to get their spot for the xmas break......we were there two weeks prior to xmas! I know slashing their tyres is not acceptable but obviously someone had taken exception to them setting up the ghost town 3 weeks prior to using the site.
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Then it was explained to us that people would put just one single tent on the site , and pay the minimum fee , just to save that spot until the Christmas School Holidays came along in a few weeks time !
that was a common practice for people visiting Waddy Point on Fraser Island for the Fraser Fishing Expo when it used to be on. i know of somone who would go about 4 - 6 weeks before the comp was on, and set up a small cheap tent and pay the camping fee, to ensure they got the area they wanted.
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Hi,
that is going to start bad vibes I'm sure.
I can just hear it now - "Who towed my van out to the low tide line?"
"Wasn't me, this spot was empty when I got here this morning."
cheers
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If you have to go to such lengths is it really worth it after all . Sounds like you might as well stay home with the neighbours you know :cheers:
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Well.. you could set up a fake drop dunny right on the spot, you will look like an unhygenic bogan, but no-one's gonna come near that!
However. Best work around for etiquitte is that if you arrange to meet with friends at a campsite, whoever nominates to be there first carries a light tent to set up on the spot for his mate.
BUT - pay for the site from the moment that you set up the tent and display the permit.
Just swap the permit onto the real thing when your mate gets in later.
While not exactly cricket, at the end of the day it's the fairest thing because the site's at least paid for from when it's taken.
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At Diamond Head in Crowdy National Park some people I know tarp out the size of the site they want a few weeks before Christmas and Easter and pay a nominal fee. It seems to be a common practice and most unusual for a National Park but they do it every year. ???
Robyn.
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I think when a person is paying for a designated site then there is not a lot you can do if they are using it or not, but when it is happening at free sites then it is a bit rude imho
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At Diamond Head in Crowdy National Park some people I know tarp out the size of the site they want a few weeks before Christmas and Easter and pay a nominal fee. It seems to be a common practice and most unusual for a National Park but they do it every year. ???
Robyn.
Last year some campers set up at Flanagans reserve near mt maroon a week before Easter, stayed one night and then promptly disappeared for the week. They had everything - party lights, a wooden bar with rum dispenser strategically placed near the fire pit complete with noisy boom box, hay bales to sit on around the fire. Trailers and tarps were strategically placed to secure a relatively large area.
Glad I wasnt staying there at easter.
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I would suggest that "camping ettiquite"is a bit like the old "common sense"
OBSELETE these days..........................
Now I know I'm old fashioned, pig headed, stupid. ignorant, and all those other things my inlaws have allready called me, BUT............
Bring in compulsory 2 years military service :police: :police: :police:
Oh go on then, knock it, but before you think its going to far, how far is too far???
Aren't we allready overuled, over regualted etc etc. Why not just keep going?
Official end of rant:
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At Diamond Head in Crowdy National Park some people I know tarp out the size of the site they want a few weeks before Christmas and Easter and pay a nominal fee. It seems to be a common practice and most unusual for a National Park but they do it every year. ???
Robyn.
And I bet they would cry if the tarp wasn't there and someone was camping there.
people used to do this at my old club at the property... they would leave their trailer at the property setup from Nov long weekend until Easter. and wondered why people for a Shit stir put up a picket fence around it, flower garden, and a "Home sweet home" sign... whats worse is sometimes they wouldnt even be there for Xmas... or new yrs.
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Now I know I'm old fashioned, pig headed, stupid. ignorant, and all those other things my inlaws have allready called me, BUT............
Bring in compulsory 2 years military service :police: :police: :police:
Oh go on then, knock it, but before you think its going to far, how far is too far???
Aren't we allready overuled, over regualted etc etc. Why not just keep going?
Official end of rant:
You'll get no argument from me :cheers:
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At Diamond Head in Crowdy National Park some people I know tarp out the size of the site they want a few weeks before Christmas and Easter and pay a nominal fee. It seems to be a common practice and most unusual for a National Park but they do it every year. ???
Robyn.
I think the tarp would disappear and if asked " it wasn't here when we got here". People are so selfish these days.
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Get a sign made up .......
Sorry for the inconvenience, nudist convention !!
Nudist convention??? and why wasn't l invited lol
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Nudist convention??? and why wasn't l invited lol
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Nudist convention??? and why wasn't l invited lol"
now that would make an interesting My Swag meet >:D
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On a recent trip we had trouble finding a spot due to the crowds, finally found one and as we were setting up some young people came over, with their drinks in hand, and warned us that they were kicked out of a spot the night before due to their drinking and loud music and said they will be doing it again tonight! >:D We just laughed and said we are not moving. >:(
Yes, early in the night this large group of young people were drinking and playing loud music. The music was actually quite good. Yep these crazy young people partied until about 8.30pm! Then they went to bed. We were tempted to start up our music.... ;)
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I remember at Freshwater Lake camp a looong time ago , we picked a spot that was the greenest grass in the whole place to put our tent .
And then the Ranger shows up and says we have to move ... Not Happy ! :(
He said : Ok , you can stay there if you want , but the reason the grass is so green , is that is where the septic pipe finishes , and putting a tent over it will probably draw the fluid up to the surface !
Well , we did end up moving .... :) :)
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i have 4 kids under 7 so i let them run around like a wild pack of dogs anytime we see someone coming close to where we are camped that deters lots of people as soon as they go the kids go back to playing its a funny site to see.
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Yeah we always tell people we have a 3 week old baby who doesn't like to sleep at night. A lot of people tend to look elsewhere as well.
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I think the tarp would disappear and if asked " it wasn't here when we got here". People are so selfish these days.
x eleventy
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i have 4 kids under 7 so i let them run around like a wild pack of dogs anytime we see someone coming close to where we are camped that deters lots of people as soon as they go the kids go back to playing its a funny site to see.
Love it
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Hi,
read a post some where - can't find it on Myswag - suspect it was here, but prior to 2009.
Story goes: A noisy mob pulled in next to a couple who wanted peace and quiet.
Doof doof music starts, quiet wife asks quiet hubby to put on army shirt and sit by the fire looking grumpy.
Shortly after, noisy mob pack up and go.
Wifey told noisy mob that hubby was back from overseas on leave, and psychiatrists had told him he needs to learn to be in the bush and not want to kill people.
cheers
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Nudist convention??? and why wasn't l invited lol"
I've seen your bare arse running through Prickly Pear.
No Thankyou
Although the Swedish backpackers are always welcome.
;D
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Aystar Star, I love that one. I'm buying some camo tomorrow!
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I was camped with my parents, a mate and bucket loads of kids (as usual). About midnight the doof doof starts and goes till about 3.30. My step other goes for a walk the next morning and gets chatting to some people who happened to be camped next to Mr doof doof, she told them that her son was going to cut his battery cables if it started again, they told her they would have back me up if I need it. Just after midnight, with my cable cutters in hand, I was suggesting to him that the music wasn't to everyone taste when a very cranky caretaker turned up with the Police to eject him. It turned out none of his mates had paid to camp either. ;D ;D
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Nothing like lobbing into the new arrivals camp with a 6 pack, singlet , double pluggers & nothing else. just plonk yourself down in a chair & start drinking & telling them how much you love being at 1 with Nature. if that doesn't work, try camping up wind after a massive Mexican feed & lots of :cheers:
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Nothing like lobbing into the new arrivals camp with a 6 pack, singlet , double pluggers & nothing else. just plonk yourself down in a chair & start drinking & telling them how much you love being at 1 with Nature. if that doesn't work, try camping up wind after a massive Mexican feed & lots of :cheers:
Now thats a mental image that will stay etched in my brain for waaaaayyy too long!!!
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Now thats a mental image that will stay etched in my brain for waaaaayyy too long!!!
Hey Hemi, I reckon even the Yowies would run to the hills from the sight of that.
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Other side of the argument, last year when we were doing the Kimberley we arrived at Windjana Gorge and the place was packed. We drove around and finally found a spot and when we were backing up a bloke came over and said he is holding that spot for a friend. There was absolutely no other place left. We had to go into a section reserved for tour groups and set up there. We later spoke to some rangers and explained why we were there and how the only spot we found was being held. They said we would have to move if a tour group wants that spot and they said the practise of holding spots is not allowed, it is totally first in. We were not that happy and also believed because we were there first we should have been able to set up in the spot we first found. It all turned out OK as no tour group came. Just another point of view. Mind you we have held spots for friends but placed chairs there, but not when all other places are full. And I am not sure about the places set aside for tour groups. Some of these areas are large and better maintained, but that is another argument. :D Kevin
Kev,
In W.A. @ Natioanl parks and reserves, YEP the above apply 100%.
Tried to reserve a site once for our daughter by parking car in location, Rangers quickly sorted that out for us when anothet guy wanted to camp there.
First come, first served is the rule in W.A. and after I became aware of this, used it to my advantage every time. LOL.
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Nothing like lobbing into the new arrivals camp with a 6 pack, singlet , double pluggers & nothing else. just plonk yourself down in a chair & start drinking & telling them how much you love being at 1 with Nature. if that doesn't work, try camping up wind after a massive Mexican feed & lots of :cheers:
sounds like your turning up for work Bevan :-*
and throw into that look as well as ya "Ruffy" mate ( who i reckon Jet crew had an eye for :-* ) and this myth is busted 8)