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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: watto11 on October 02, 2011, 04:19:17 AM
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Good morning everyone I hope u had a lovely sleep!! It's 4am here in beautiful qld and the only real issue with that is it's suppose to be bloody 5am but thanks to day light saving I'm now a hour early for work which should make an already long 14hr day just that little bit longer.
I was aware that it started today however last yr my phone stayed on normal people time so it was all good but for Shits and giggles this yr it decided I needed to get up just that little bit earlier lol anyway have a lovely Sunday and go warriors
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Mate, I'm in NSW and I just got up to blog about a sand bog when I noticed your post. At first I just thought this must be some weird things you 'cane toad smugglers' do (stop smuggling them across our border). So I checked and...yep, we have to wind 'em forward too. So you've saved me from being in a time warp all day.
But you see this helps global warming because the sun comes up an hour later.
And about those Warriors. I suppose you cane toad smugglers would hate any team in our fair state -- but it's Manly, the team everybody loves to hate. I remember you used to ask a punter who they barracked for and they say, "Anyone who plays Manly."
Have a nice daylight saving day and remember that if it wasn't for global warming that bloody cold September we just had would have been even colder -- or something.
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Same here, we are looking after the grandson, 1year old....nobody told him about day light saving!!
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Not happy that having grown up in Melbourne and being very pro DST, since 1987 I've lived in QLD, NT, WA, NT, QLD, all states & territories that can't see the benefits, and penalise their businesses by being out of step, time wise, with the majority of the country. :'(
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I love Daylight savings. Bring it on I say. (Melbourne)
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I love Daylight savings. Bring it on I say. (Melbourne)
x2 for Tassie
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I like Daylight Savings too!!
To adjust you Forum clock to suit daylight saving just click on:
1: My Profile
2:Lookout and Layout Preferences
3: Then adjust your time on the page.
:cheers:
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Its a pain in the a... not having it in qld
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Yes, having experienced daylight savings and the benefits of it, i love it. But unfortunately i am now in Queensland where the powers to be have decided not to pull into line with the rest of the country. >:(
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Having only ever lived in QLD and WA....i dont really care......lol :P
All i have to say is.....na-na-nana-na You all have to get up 3 hours earlier than me :P
;D
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we luv the extra hour of light
good for doin things around the house after work
barbys cold ones etc etc lol
:cheers: sheeds
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we luv the extra hour of light
good for doin things around the house after work
x2
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Yes, but for those who live in God's country (that's QLD for all you heathens) we don't need to mess with our clocks to make life enjoyable.
If anything you lot should scrap DST and bring yourself into line with the states that are currently keeping the economy afloat!
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Yes, but for those who live in God's country (that's QLD for all you heathens) we don't need to mess with our clocks to make life enjoyable.
If anything you lot should scrap DST and bring yourself into line with the states that are currently keeping the economy afloat!
X2 lol
This is going to turn ugly I can see it now
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If anything you lot should scrap DST and bring yourself into line with the states that are currently keeping the economy afloat!
x3 :D
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As at March 2011 Australia's population stood at 22 546 300. The populations of NSW, VIC, TAS, SA & ACT amount to 15 421 400, some 68% of the nation's population even though taking up only
27% of the 7,691,951 sq km total land mass at 2,082,299 sq km.
So the minority population of 32%, spread out over 73% of the country are holding most of us to ransom, and are costing business and community a small fortune in dollars, and lifestyle convenience.
There should be a national referendum on the issue, and we either all do it, or none of us do. 8)
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Yep, and the minority of the land mass holders, the ones that sit in that 27% who can't play football, think it is their right to dictate to the minority population, who control 73% of this great country.
If you are being held to ransom, being cost money, and have an impacted lifestyle, then scrap the stupid DST concept and come back into line with QLD, NT and WA! I've lived in the southern states, and still having the sun up at 10pm is just crazy, and you reckon us northerns have got it wrong?
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I've lived in the southern states, and still having the sun up at 10pm is just crazy, and you reckon us northerns have got it wrong?
And I've lived in Brisbane and reckon the sun being up and broad daylight by 4:00 is crazier. I also reckon you've got it wrong! :-*
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Not sure I have ever seen the sun still up at 10pm??, but let's not let facts get in the way....lol
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all the southerners could move back down if it is better there !!
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Not sure I have ever seen the sun still up at 10pm??, but let's not let facts get in the way....lol
It does in Tassie.
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Ok, so one southern state.....not "states" like you stated... :)
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I like to be able to go to the beach before work for a surf.....waters glassy, no on shores and its awesome to be able to do that. With day light savings I have to wait to 6.30 / 7.00 oclock before the afternoon glass off happens and usually miss the morning surf.........they are my purely selfish reasons.............
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Had to tell the GPS I live in New Caledonia to get it to tell the right time. Can somebody tell me why an Australian designed GMS built for a company in Melbourne doesn't know what summer time is?
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It does in Tassie.
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Dont know which Tassie your talking about but it aint this one. Maybe a little daylight left on a day or two of the year but there aint no sun up.
Having lived in WA (Kununurra) while they trialled DLS, it was fantastic. And everyone up there loved it.
Having been back to Kununurra last month, it is weird being daylight at 0430 in the morning but dark by 1730. It just aint right.
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Just a bit of info I learned last year.
In the UK they have DLS. What got me is the sun rises at about 4am and sets about 10pm. Took a little while to get used to. ;D
Oh, and with the exception of WA, they are already 3 hours behind and need all the help they can get to catch up, the rest of the country should all be in the same time zone for nothing more than economic reasons.
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DST is hell for anyone who lives above Rocky, especially if they have kids. It's the tropics
Happy to wake up naturally without an alarm and see the sun gone early evening so things can cool down faster at home
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I don't see the problem.
You lot want it. You got it.
We don't want it. We don't got it.
You care.
We don't.
We win State of Origin every year.
You don't.
Obviously a positive correlation there.
And the reason why xxxx and Bundy Rum taste sweeter up here.
(and we have brighter coloured curtains.) Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers
laugh laugh laugh laugh
Evil
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Dont know which Tassie your talking about but it aint this one. Maybe a little daylight left on a day or two of the year but there aint no sun up.
Having lived in WA (Kununurra) while they trialled DLS, it was fantastic. And everyone up there loved it.
Having been back to Kununurra last month, it is weird being daylight at 0430 in the morning but dark by 1730. It just aint right.
I remember sunset at Launceston on Christmas day being just after 10pm.
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I'm with dallp lol cheers with bundy
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I don't see the problem.
You lot want it. You got it.
We don't want it. We don't got it.
You care.
We don't.
We win State of Origin every year.
You don't.
Obviously a positive correlation there.
And the reason why xxxx and Bundy Rum taste sweeter up here.
(and we have brighter coloured curtains.) Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers
laugh laugh laugh laugh
Evil
What they said! Never seen a sunrise except after a long night drinking ... and don't want it any other way thanks. Never gotten out of bed until the sun is way up as I don't really like Early Bird Worms ... much preferring Late Bird Steak.
Kit_e
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Hi All
Love when this argument pops up :D. My mother-in-law (Townsville) and I (Brisbane, Pro DST) have arguments on this subject every time it makes the news. So I did a little reseaching to find some facts ???. Have a read of the info below i found i think you will find it interesting, I did.
According to the U.S. Naval Observatory, civil twilight is defined to begin in the morning, and to end in the evening when the center of the Sun is geometrically 6 degrees below the horizon. This is the limit at which twilight illumination is sufficient, under good weather conditions, for terrestrial objects to be clearly distinguished; at the beginning of morning civil twilight, or end of evening civil twilight, the horizon is clearly defined and the brightest stars are visible under good atmospheric conditions in the absence of moonlight or other illumination. In the morning before the beginning of civil twilight and in the evening after the end of civil twilight, artificial illumination is normally required to carry on ordinary outdoor activities. Complete darkness, however, ends sometime prior to the beginning of morning civil twilight and begins sometime after the end of evening civil twilight.
Sunrise and sunset conventionally refer to the times when the upper edge of the disk of the Sun is on the horizon, considered unobstructed relative to the location of interest. Atmospheric conditions are assumed to be average, and the location is in a level region on the Earth's surface.
(The following data taken from Geosciences Australia)
TOWNSVILLE Lat=-19°15'00" Long=+146°49'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
01/12/2011 Rise 0502 Set 1901 Total daylight = 13hrs 59 min
BRISBANE-CITY Lat=-27°28'00" Long=+153°01'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
01/12/2011 Rise 0419 Set 1855 Total daylight = 14 hrs 36 min
MELBOURNE Lat=-37°49'00" Long=+144°58'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
01/12/2011 Rise 0421 Set 1956 Total daylight = 15 hrs 35 min
During the summer months (if there were no DST) places like Melbourne actually have more hours of daylight than (as in the examples) Townsville.
Yep I know what some are thinking, Melbourne doesn't have a dirty big range to the west of it, but the numbers are interesting just the same.
Cheers
Ken
P.s. So really the northern areas would benefit more from DST 8)
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Wont someone please think of the curtains
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Kennyk, how dare you provide facts....sweeping unfounded statements serve the thread much better....lol.... :)
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i love daylight savings ..thats my 2 cents worth :cheers:
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I can't believe were this thread has gone to lol I was just having a joke at my miss fortune it's great to see debate is alive and thriving
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Kennyk, how dare you provide facts....sweeping unfounded statements serve the thread much better....lol.... :)
Well since we are putting facts into the mix (why spoil things?) lets look at the summer and winter soltices -
Summer and Winter for Townsville -
TOWNSVILLE Lat=-19°15'00" Long=+146°49'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
22/12/2011 Rise 0508 Set 1914 14 hours, 6 minutes of daylight
TOWNSVILLE Lat=-19°15'00" Long=+146°49'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
21/06/2011 Rise 0621 Set 1807 11 hours, 46 minutes of daylight
Net variation of 2 hours, 20 minutes.
Summer and Winter for Melbourne -
MELBOURNE Lat=-37°50'00" Long=+144°58'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
22/12/2011 Rise 0423 Set 2013 15 hours, 50 minutes of daylight
MELBOURNE Lat=-37°50'00" Long=+144°58'00"
TIMES OF CIVIL TWILIGHT
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +10.00 hours
21/06/2011 Rise 0706 Set 1737 12 hours, 31 minutes of daylight
Net variation of 3 hours, 19 minutes.
It is because you don't get as much variation in the north is the reason why daylight saving is pointless. If anything if you want to have it you would do the time shift in winter not summer in the southern states to get you out of bed earlier to use the remaining daylight in the afternoon.
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Okay fair enough, I can't afford for SWMBO to replace the curtains if they fade anyhow ;D
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Symon, you need a bex and a good lie down, in any case shouldn't you be at work keeping the Australian economy afloat, or perhaps talking about the sun being up at 10pm in the southern states..,or state, or perhaps an argument with Mainey over solar power.,..lmfao
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I can't believe were this thread has gone to lol I was just having a joke at my miss fortune it's great to see debate is alive and thriving
I agree some people just take themselves far to seriously.
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Symon, you need a bex and a good lie down, in any case shouldn't you be at work keeping the Australian economy afloat, or perhaps talking about the sun being up at 10pm in the southern states..,or state, or perhaps an argument with Mainey over solar power.,..lmfao
But how am I going to fix my curtain fading problem? And the cows don't know what time it will be for milking!
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I agree some people just take themselves far to seriously.
I just like to have a dig at the MIL on this topic every chance I get >:D (even thou I know she won't ever be on this forum). Plus I was trying to rationalise why I come to be in the same situation as Watto ??? Doh. See if we had DLS i wouldn't have felt so bad getting woken up an hour earlier >:(
I'll take that bex too n just go n reasure the cows they can keep giving milk on time ;D ;D
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We all need to remember that Queensland not having DLS time dates back to the premiership of Jon Bjelke Petersen. Joh believed that the sun shone out of his arse and he was not going to get up early for anyone.
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boom-tish!
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I'm still trying to get over yesterday it's causing me to have panic attacks I'm checking clock constantly I can't sleep with fear of not walking up oh why oh why can't we just have uniformity in this country it's causing more harm than good ?
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If those Queenslanders are having trouble with curtains fading, then get rid of them and join the rest of Australia, ;D ;D
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Sounds like there's a lot of people out there that haven't tried to put kids to bed when it's still hot and light. :'(
Definitely worth the economic hardship the blast of hot air coming up from Mexico every now and then. (get a bit repetitive though)
Yep... sounds like they're still trying to make up for the last loss. ;D
If ya want ta be a Mexican move to Mexico. :-*
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The curtain fading thing actually came from a NSW at the introduction of DLS.
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Sounds like there's a lot of people out there that haven't tried to put kids to bed when it's still hot and light. :'(
A crock of doo-doos in my experience.
As a kid in Melbourne, the eldest of 4, when mum put us to bed at 7:30 on a school night, it was to bed we went. We didn't are argue because we knew we'd lose, and the consequences wouldn't be pleasurable.
What did we do? Why we went to sleep of course!
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I don't treat my kids as shut up and do as I tell you. They actually have input into the family. :angel:
We are also talking about North Queensland not not four seasons in a day Melbourne. ::)
Generally a lot of difference temperature wise. 8)
It appears that the Southerners care a lot more than the relaxed people do. >:D
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If you all really want to get out of bed ALOT earlier than you already do ... why not try camping? On average (for me) it takes a very annoying alarm set at regular intervals to get me out of bed to go to work and bugger an hour earlier for that! When camping, it's early to bed early to rise as a rule. Nothing beats a Shithouse day camping!!!!!
Let's bring in "Camping Time" much more regularly (let's say fortnightly at the very least) and bugger the pollies and their efforts to make more dollars from we poor workers by dragging us out of bed even 5 minutes earlier for the sake of the God Almighty Dollar ....
The sun still shines when it wants to whether we are up to utilise it or not. Learn to use your time better and you won't need any extra day to Save. Most of those in favour are still watching the news at 6 whilst eating dinner then sitting in front of the box with no regard for saving anything. If the sun comes up at 4.30 (and so do you) and you start work at 8, then you have 3.5hrs to do what you like, unless you live in (say) Sydney where those 3.5hrs are utilised in a traffic jam of massive proportions.
Kit_e
P.S. Has anyone seen the new ad with all the little deers at the disco and cruising the streets at night and partying in high rise apartments? So cool!
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I luv daylight savings
it give me great comfort knowing that Victorians are now
getting out of bed an hour earlier to get my load ready for Brisbane every week
= i get home an hour earlier now after a week away :cup:
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But how am I going to fix my curtain fading problem? And the cows don't know what time it will be for milking!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Generally a lot of difference temperature wise. 8)
Tosh. 8)
The greatest temperature variation today in Mareeba (can't find data for Atherton) is 1.9 degrees. Early this morning the temp dropped 1.9 degrees in an hour, and this afternoon it rose 1.9 degrees. Hardly a big change and not one that's going to be too noticeable.