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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: oldblade on August 10, 2011, 07:18:54 PM
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:cheers:
http://www.fleetfit.com.au/pdf_docs/ARB_April_2011_Dealer_Retail_Price_List_20110401.1.pdf (http://www.fleetfit.com.au/pdf_docs/ARB_April_2011_Dealer_Retail_Price_List_20110401.1.pdf)
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Ha!
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there ya go eh! Who's gunna test it in a ARB store first....... ???
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Saved ;D
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I am going to ARB tomorrow, will see...
:cheers:
Dave
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Thank you!!!
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The dealer price is what they pay. Now you know how far you can screw them.
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love it... thanks for that.
I bet they will hate that leaking! :cheers:
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theres not as much margin in some things as I thought... lots more on others though
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Link doesn't work anymore, they are onto you.
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Indeed, no longer working.
Please put it on the web for those who saved it.
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Thanks Skapinad that works
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Thanks, downloading now. :-)
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Ok guys for those of you who have downloaded it, it is a copy write price list and you are breaching copy write laws by downloading it, yes it was posted as a link which should not have been able to accessed via the public. So do the right thing :cheers:
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Ok guys for those of you who have downloaded it, it is a copy write price list and you are breaching copy write laws by downloading it, yes it was posted as a link which should not have been able to accessed via the public. So do the right thing :cheers:
what upload it to all the PDF storage places on the interwebs? or email it to all ya mates?
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12. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY STATEMENT
The Customer acknowledges ARB’s title to all product designs, illustrations, photography, designs, graphics, images, logos, text
and other related materials to be copyrights, trademarks, registrations and intellectual property of ARB. Use, duplication,
reproduction, distribution, display or transmission of same without the permission of ARB in writing is prohibited.
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well i just had a sahara bar install on the gu, at an incredible 30% below what my brother was quoted four months ago!!, so I'm a happy man !!, and the truck looks hot.....
now just to get rid of the annoying 3l masteries oil leak ::)
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Isn't the law, just a guide to whats right ?
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Isn't the law, just a guide to whats right ?
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12. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY STATEMENT
The Customer acknowledges ARB’s title to all product designs, illustrations, photography, designs, graphics, images, logos, text
and other related materials to be copyrights, trademarks, registrations and intellectual property of ARB. Use, duplication,
reproduction, distribution, display or transmission of same without the permission of ARB in writing is prohibited.
Ummmm, yeah, that relates to the products and their product brochures etc. described in the pricing catalogue, not the catalogue itself. obvioulsy it is not suppoed to be seen by the public....! anyway, will delete it off that site if i can work out how...
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It was not directed at anyone, hence the ?
But i do agree we pay far to much to promote these larger business's.
If i buy any of there brand stuff it'll be through a smaller independent store not a franchise store.
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It was not directed at anyone, hence the ?
But i do agree we pay far to much to promote these larger business's.
If i buy any of there brand stuff it'll be through a smaller independent store not a franchise store.
"thank you for this useful post "... because we don't have a thank you button!!!...")
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Intellectual property is for their products only, not brochures.
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I'm sure years ago, ARB used to hand out a pricing guide to their customers. I'm sure I can remember having one at home here, a few years back now though.
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Intellectual property is for their products only, not brochures.
Really?
12. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY STATEMENT
The Customer acknowledges ARB’s title to all product designs, illustrations, photography, designs, graphics, images, logos, text
and other related materials to be copyrights, trademarks, registrations and intellectual property of ARB. Use, duplication,
reproduction, distribution, display or transmission of same without the permission of ARB in writing is prohibited.
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I'm sure years ago, ARB used to hand out a pricing guide to their customers. I'm sure I can remember having one at home here, a few years back now though.
They do have em, they are on the counter in every ARB store.
Just not with the shop paid prices as part of that listing.
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Although everyone would like to get things cheaper, fact of life is everything has a markup..
You buy a set of brake pads from say Repco at $80.... they bought them from a wholesaler ( or importer) for. $40. And the wholesaler bought them direct from China for. $20.... that's how a business makes money..
Now if you could only buy them direct from China yourself. ?????
But for a thing made in Australia. ( as in the bullbar for example. ) the markup was more like25 to 30%, not the 100% each time it went thru a set of hands as in the brake pads..
Still seems like a lot of money for a bullbar, but they charge what they think the market will bear!!
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All this legal mumbo jumbo, most of us would be guessing as to the correct interpretation of this sort of documentation. ???
If you're not comfortable or don't think its right looking at or downloading this stuff don't, your arguments as to why it is wrong probably won't change anyone's mind.
Isn't the law, just a guide to whats right ?
I think you're on the money Dean.
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Garry I've got two here and have been searching high and low for them to compare prices.
I'll have another look.
Found one but it's a 2006 item and the prices are for the item $$+$$ for fitting.
Would still be intresting to check if there be baiting us with that.
If anyone wants a cross refeance an old price, aRb side railand steps for a GU (4417140) were $925 +$140 for fitting =$1065 in 05
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I find it interesting that the ARB document specifically adresses you and I the customer in its presentation and not the distributor. This tells me that this was not meant solely for the persue of the distributor. I don't think it was meant to have wholesale prices included though. That said, it is obvious that a lot of distributors upon learning of its 'leaking' would be pretty miffed.
The question as to the ethics of allowing a link to the document to be maintained is an interesting one. To delete any link removes the right of the membership to make an ethical decision. To not remove it brings into question the ethical position of the Myswag admin and mod crew.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
To that end I am editing the posts with links and removing said lnks. Any further posting of links to this file will see this thread axed.
The PDF is out there on the web so if you want it bad enough you should be able to find it.
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Good plan Snow
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I find it interesting that the ARB document specifically adresses you and I the customer in its presentation and not the distributor. This tells me that this was not meant solely for the persue of the distributor. I don't think it was meant to have wholesale prices included though.
Its cheaper and easier to do a small edit than redesign it for customers v stores, thus the dealers wouldn't give a rats bottom what the wording said "I/You customer".
now the original link is dead and a google search only brings up several forums with the original link, wonder what PDF storage place will end up with copies :)
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So who want's a copy :)
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So who want's a copy :)
me please
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spewing....the link no longer works.
So who want's a copy :)
is it still available?
:cheers:
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Saved on my Desktop ;D
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Oops did I post a link that I shouldn't have or was this on the net and shouldnt have been
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Although the item may well be copywrite, I very much doubt that ARB corp would be taking an individual to court over it's use.
They would need to first establish that the breach had a financial gain attached to it.
The glossy brouchure you get at the store is copywrite also , You can give it whomever you like without fear of prosecution. So a price list is no different.
Remeber this is copywrite law not the secracies act . So there must be an intent or advantage in a commercial way for the burdens to be established.
Otherwise evertime we post a picture of ourselfs holding a can of coke ect we would be in breach.
Not saying the mods were wrong/right to remove ,just putting my 2 cents worth in.
Jetcrew ;D ;D ;D
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or was this on the net and shouldnt have been
correct
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p.s. it's copyright... its been published to the net so its freely available worldwide now.. seems there are some vested interests on this forum, I hardly see it being a grand secret that ARB ad at least 20% onto their own costs, its what business's do.
And I find it hard to believe they are operating at that small a margin anyway, could the dealer prices actually be for Toyota/nissan dealers etc. ?
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I’m having second thoughts now,,,,,,
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It's really no suprise, ARB shouldn't be ashamed. Most automotive is 15-40% markup, this is just business.
They wouldn't prosecute, there's no intellectual property jeopardised and In my opinion, if anything - they have won through this little debacle - we're all talking about ARB... 8)
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It's really no suprise, ARB shouldn't be ashamed. Most automotive is 15-40% markup, this is just business.
They wouldn't prosecute, there's no intellectual property jeopardised and In my opinion, if anything - they have won through this little debacle - we're all talking about ARB... 8)
So very true ,well said
Jetcrew :D
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Why are some here shocked at a 15 -40% markup, as a business owner we have a regular mark up, of this type on our products that we sell. If you take into account the running costs of a business, and most people don't realize what those costs are then you need this mark up and some times even more to break even or make a small profit. If anyone has any questions on what it costs to run a SME then PM me. ARB are only competing in a market that we all use and is competitive so most of these mark ups are industry standard if you are comparing apples to apples, but this is not always the case.
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40 % THATS NOTHING. I mark up lots more than that. Now anyone want to buy some shutters???
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40 % THATS NOTHING. I mark up lots more than that. Now anyone want to buy some shutters???
Agree Goldie, you sell them shutters and I will sell them Blinds and Curtains but not at 40%
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Dearie Me ... let's not start on the (well over 100%) markup on clothes, furniture and food ... heavens no!
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A few people seem to hung up on the markup % ARB appear to be using and bagging them for it but no one has mentioned their competition who would be in the ballpark retail $ wise.
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A few people seem to hung up on the markup % ARB appear to be using and bagging them for it but no one has mentioned their competition who would be in the ballpark retail $ wise.
x2
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A few people seem to hung up on the markup % ARB appear to be using and bagging them for it but no one has mentioned their competition who would be in the ballpark retail $ wise.
.... add to that, with some companies paying shedloads less to have the stuff made up, but are making a larger profit.
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If you can't beat them buy their stock :)
(http://blkmav.com/stuff/arp.jpg)
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A product is worth what someone is willing to pay for it...........
ARB make top gear and like any other business, are there to make a profit.
A healthy profit from a well run quality business offering a quality product is nothing unusual.
Sure there will be the odd disgruntled customer, but I don't often hear complaints about ARB. In fact quite the opposite.
Good luck to them. I have bought their products for over 14 years and will continue to do so and recommend them.
Good product and despite them making a profit its for a good price too......
Usual disclaimer....blah blah blah................
Brian
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A product is worth what someone is willing to pay for it...........
ARB make top gear and like any other business, are there to make a profit.
A healthy profit from a well run quality business offering a quality product is nothing unusual.
Sure there will be the odd disgruntled customer, but I don't often hear complaints about ARB. In fact quite the opposite.
Good luck to them. I have bought their products for over 14 years and will continue to do so and recommend them.
Good product and despite them making a profit its for a good price too......
Usual disclaimer....blah blah blah................
Brian
Hear Hear!! or is it here here???
either way,
hear here! :cup:
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40 % THATS NOTHING. I mark up lots more than that. Now anyone want to buy some shutters???
Minus the markup and you could have a customer. !!!! ;D
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does anyone have a copy of this ARB pricelist that you can email me
Cheers
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Hey Goldie what shutters do you sell, inside or outside?
And if its available can I have a copy, im about to fit out my new (second hand) Sahara 8)
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I didn't notice this thread quick enough to see the price list but if 40% is their maximum margin then their gear is cheap! Remember that this is the gross margin that the store makes on the product; then out of this groos margin the store owner has to pay wages, super, rent, advertising, insurance, telephones, registrations, training etc etc - get the picture? Anyway, even if they were making 200% margin and as a consumer I am happy to pay for the product then good luck to them. I have no problem with a business making money. Sorry to rant.
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Good plan Snow
get a room !
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get a room !
What's your point?
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So who want's a copy :)
Is there a copy still around? I would like 1 please
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You and me both, unfortunately ive been chasing down a copy but nobody seems to want to share :'(
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send me a PM and i will flick it to ya!
Cheers!
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Market Leader
Expanding Company
Excellent Career Opportunity
Fantastic Team Environment
A rare opportunity exists to join the marketing department of Australia’s leading 4x4 accessories manufacturer, ARB Corporation Ltd.
This new role involves managing the company’s interests across a variety of social media platforms, and assisting with the maintenance and direction of the company’s website.
Working in conjunction with a leading web development agency you will become part of a team responsible for maintaining an exceptional level of presentation in all digital media related areas.
This role reports directly to the Marketing Manager, and applicants should possess the following skills:
Outstanding technical writing abilities
Enthusiasm and experience with 4x4 vehicles
Sound mechanical aptitude
A very high level of accuracy
Experience with social media channels including Facebook, YouTube &
enthusiast forums
Previous experience in a digital media role is preferable
A tertiary qualification in marketing, communications or PR will be highly regarded
The ideal candidate will be someone who spends their weekends four wheel driving, and their evenings surfing the Internet checking out 4x4 websites.
An attractive remuneration package will be offered in line with the sucessful applicant’s experience and credentials.
Applications should be forwarded to:
Human Resource Manager
Email: lmcnamee@arb.com.au
Fax: 03 9721 9495
Mail: PO Box 105, Kilsyth VIC 3137
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If they paid me enough I'd spend my week 4wding and surf the net at night. Whatever they want I can be flexable, I just dont want to move from here. ;D ;D ;D
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Market Leader
Expanding Company
Excellent Career Opportunity
Fantastic Team Environment
A rare opportunity exists to join the marketing department of Australia’s leading 4x4 accessories manufacturer, ARB Corporation Ltd.
This new role involves managing the company’s interests across a variety of social media platforms, and assisting with the maintenance and direction of the company’s website.
Working in conjunction with a leading web development agency you will become part of a team responsible for maintaining an exceptional level of presentation in all digital media related areas.
This role reports directly to the Marketing Manager, and applicants should possess the following skills:
Outstanding technical writing abilities
Enthusiasm and experience with 4x4 vehicles
Sound mechanical aptitude
A very high level of accuracy
Experience with social media channels including Facebook, YouTube &
enthusiast forums
Previous experience in a digital media role is preferable
A tertiary qualification in marketing, communications or PR will be highly regarded
The ideal candidate will be someone who spends their weekends four wheel driving, and their evenings surfing the Internet checking out 4x4 websites.
An attractive remuneration package will be offered in line with the sucessful applicant’s experience and credentials.
Applications should be forwarded to:
Human Resource Manager
Email: lmcnamee@arb.com.au
Fax: 03 9721 9495
Mail: PO Box 105, Kilsyth VIC 3137
It's got your name allover it Bruce. ::)
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They pay crap
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They pay crap
Your being kind...
and there isnt much in the way of "staff discounts"........
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So maybe we can change their attitude if one of us is hired.
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I wouldn't be picking on ARB too much.. They are not the only ones...
When looking around for trail bike parts we found the same with BarkBuster Hand Guards that are made in Aust. We could buy them a lot cheaper with postage from the UK. We just approached my local dealer and said we can get them for x from the UK, what can you do them for. They knocked a lot off so they were within $15 of the UK ones so we spent our dollars locally..
Time to print off the internet price and let the locals compete.... For a few extra dollars it's better to keep you money here...
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I wouldn't be picking on ARB too much.. They are not the only ones...
When looking around for trail bike parts we found the same with BarkBuster Hand Guards that are made in Aust. We could buy them a lot cheaper with postage from the UK. We just approached my local dealer and said we can get them for x from the UK, what can you do them for. They knocked a lot off so they were within $15 of the UK ones so we spent our dollars locally..
Time to print off the internet price and let the locals compete.... For a few extra dollars it's better to keep you money here...
I agree but I wonder how much the locals will drop.
I priced Cooper ST Maxx tyres at the Adelaide Caravan and Camping Show which was on this weekend at $428ea - cheapest I've found on the net is US$219.
In saying that a Timbuk2 backpack that I wanted was at Anaconda for $120 and I found it on the net for US$79. Anaconda were good enough to match that - and we both agreed that we would forget about the exchange rate.