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Title: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 09, 2011, 03:50:51 PM
I have a Jayco Flamingo Outback Camper on it's way, and wondering if I will need towing mirrors? I will be towing with an ML Triton dual-cab tray-back.  ???

Cheers
Flem
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: D4D on July 09, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
...wondering if I will need towing mirrors?


Yes, I have these
http://www.mycaravanparts.com.au/products/car-accessories/towing-mirrors/xl-clip-on-tow-mirror.aspx (http://www.mycaravanparts.com.au/products/car-accessories/towing-mirrors/xl-clip-on-tow-mirror.aspx)
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Slydog on July 09, 2011, 04:17:33 PM
I have spoken to a few people about the same topic and they all say yes also because of the width of the camper you can't see anything behind you.  8)
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: GSK33 on July 09, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
I have a Jayco Flamingo Outback Camper on it's way, and wondering if I will need towing mirrors? I will be towing with an ML Triton dual-cab tray-back.  ???

Cheers
Flem
yeah mate you will need at least one. We own a Swan and we bought one for the drivers side. If you drive in double lanes alot you may need two. There are some crap mirrors on the market though so choose wisely.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: GSK33 on July 09, 2011, 04:39:02 PM
Yes, I have these
http://www.mycaravanparts.com.au/products/car-accessories/towing-mirrors/xl-clip-on-tow-mirror.aspx (http://www.mycaravanparts.com.au/products/car-accessories/towing-mirrors/xl-clip-on-tow-mirror.aspx)
hi d4d. How do you find you mirrors at 100km/h or when a semi passes you? We also own a Prado.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: D4D on July 09, 2011, 04:51:55 PM
How do you find you mirrors at 100km/h or when a semi passes you?

When I bought them at Bayswater Jayco they threw in some extra straps. These straps attach to the towing mirror and the top door hinge on the prado. This stops them from being blown back by trucks coming the other way.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: NewcastleKnight on July 09, 2011, 05:29:48 PM
When I bought them at Bayswater Jayco they threw in some extra straps. These straps attach to the towing mirror and the top door hinge on the prado. This stops them from being blown back by trucks coming the other way.

How do you find the vibration that's what annoyed me with those types.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: D4D on July 09, 2011, 05:31:15 PM
How do you find the vibration that's what annoyed me with those types.

Not that bad with the extra strap. I wasn't prepared to pay $200 each for the Aussie Truck for the amount of times I use them.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Swogjb on July 09, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
Yes, I have these
http://www.mycaravanparts.com.au/products/car-accessories/towing-mirrors/xl-clip-on-tow-mirror.aspx (http://www.mycaravanparts.com.au/products/car-accessories/towing-mirrors/xl-clip-on-tow-mirror.aspx)


I have the same ones as D4D, they work well on the Hilux because the mirrors are quite rigid and don't move easily. I don't believe they would work as well if the cars mirrors moved easily.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 09, 2011, 06:28:12 PM
Iv'e been looking at these from Super Cheap

http://media.supercheapauto.com.au/sca/images/214982.jpg
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: NewcastleKnight on July 09, 2011, 06:34:36 PM
Not that bad with the extra strap. I wasn't prepared to pay $200 each for the Aussie Truck for the amount of times I use them.

Fair enough, I got one of the aussies that I used on the right and side and I use one like yours on the left.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Bushman on July 09, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Not that bad with the extra strap. I wasn't prepared to pay $200 each for the Aussie Truck for the amount of times I use them.

I wouldn't pay $200 each either, I got mine for $160 the pair.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Bushman on July 09, 2011, 06:42:42 PM
I have a Jayco Flamingo Outback Camper on it's way, and wondering if I will need towing mirrors? I will be towing with an ML Triton dual-cab tray-back.  ???

Cheers
Flem

Yes you will.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Burnsy on July 09, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
I use the same ones as D4D but usually only on the drivers side. Mind you the cruiser is probably a bit wider than the triton.  I would really like a set of the oversized original replacement mirrors but I don't think they make them for 80 series yet (can't remember the company that does them).
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Bushman on July 09, 2011, 06:47:52 PM
 I would really like a set of the oversized original replacement mirrors but I don't think they make them for 80 series yet (can't remember the company that does them).

Clearview, seen a few of them getting around now, but $600 a pair ???
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Robbo on July 09, 2011, 07:02:23 PM
You can get a set of these from FleaBay for just $59-99  I have used similar ones to these in the past and they have been more than satisfactory.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CARAVAN-TOWING-MIRROR-H-DUTY-RATCHET-STYLE-PAIR-/250846945329?pt=Caravan_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a67a4a031
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 09, 2011, 07:38:20 PM
I was trying to avoid the extra arm coming down the door. Even though there obviously must be less vibration when you go that way.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: crackacoldie on July 09, 2011, 07:45:08 PM
The legal answer in SA is:

If you stand at the rear of the towed load (camper) with the tow vehicle and load in a straight line and cannot see the etire side mirror of the tow vehicle, additional extension mirrors will be required.

Remember (a learning from 2 demerits and $160) this applies to BOTH sides of the vehicle.

 :cheers: Cracka
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Burnsy on July 09, 2011, 08:10:24 PM
Clearview, seen a few of them getting around now, but $600 a pair ???

Yep, that's them.  $600 is not to dear when you consider I paid $290 for a second hand 80 series electric mirror early last year to replace a busted one (internal mounts died, then mirror face).  If I brake another and the clearview are available for the 80 I will consider them as I think have big arsed wing mirrors around town would help in merging traffic as well.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: margsie on July 09, 2011, 09:34:51 PM
why not a wireless reverse camera, wired into the side lights with a screen on the dash. Its what i use and it works a treat, gives you great vision and helps with reversing aswell.
You can get them on ebay for a great price and some include a gps function.s
Got to be better than big fugly mirror
First post!!! :D
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: D4D on July 09, 2011, 09:38:24 PM
why not a wireless reverse camera, wired into the side lights with a screen on the dash. Its what i use and it works a treat, gives you great vision and helps with reversing aswell.
You can get them on ebay for a great price and some include a gps function.s
Got to be better than big fugly mirror
First post!!! :D

Welcome to myswag margsie :)
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flamingo on July 10, 2011, 07:54:01 AM
Hi Flem How did you go with the mirrors?  Ive been looking around and i dont want mirrors with arms and such.. The ones you saw at supercheap look ok.. Gonna go look at some myself. I found towing our Flamingo with a Navara i need a little more mirror!!  The more you can see the better!!   :cheers: Phil  ps pics of your Flamingo??
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 10, 2011, 08:43:37 AM
Hi Phil,
I think I will try the Super cheap mirrors, @ $25 each it's worth a try. It's all I can do getting the Triton ready to tow, while I'm waiting for the camper to be ready early September. I don't know how you put up with the wait when you got yours, I could see through your post it was touch and go.  :D The next thing I've got to do is wire up the brake controller (hope its not too hard). How do you plug your camper in at home? do you have a 15 amp outlet. I have been looking at these -
 http://www.ampfibian.com.au/productsRV01.htm

How has yours been going have you got any more Pic's

 :cheers:

Flem
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: RebsWA on July 10, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
why not a wireless reverse camera, wired into the side lights with a screen on the dash. Its what i use and it works a treat, gives you great vision and helps with reversing aswell.
You can get them on ebay for a great price and some include a gps function.s
Got to be better than big fugly mirror
First post!!! :D

Agree, but is a rear view camera a legal substitute for mirrors... yet?
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: theflyingbadger on July 10, 2011, 05:02:32 PM
Agree, but is a rear view camera a legal substitute for mirrors... yet?

nope
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flamingo on July 10, 2011, 05:18:45 PM
  Gday Flem I posted a reply in the our camper trailer thread. The mirrors i ended up with have only 1 arm. What state are you in? We got our Flamingo from Bayswater in Vic. We used thier auto elec.to fit the brake controller. Did a top job. Looked a lot of work. They also fitted the anderson plug to. We fitted a Prodigy P2. This is the mirrors i got..  :cheers: Phil


http://i51.tinypic.com/n4dqiu.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 10, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
G'day Phil,
              I saw your other thread thanks mate. I am in Gladstone QLD but ordered my camper through Brissy at the Caravan Camping show. I'll see how hard the controller is to install and may do the same as you, if it's too hard. The Mirrors you picked up look like they will do the job, and a good price to. 

Flem
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: darren on July 10, 2011, 07:13:04 PM
I didn't think caravan drivers used mirrors. I know every time i come up behind them and they're doing 80 in a 100 zone they never, ever pull over and let me past???????
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 10, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Lucky we tow Camper Trailers  :angel:
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Nutto on July 10, 2011, 07:46:29 PM
 Gday Flem I posted a reply in the our camper trailer thread. The mirrors i ended up with have only 1 arm. What state are you in? We got our Flamingo from Bayswater in Vic. We used thier auto elec.to fit the brake controller. Did a top job. Looked a lot of work. They also fitted the anderson plug to. We fitted a Prodigy P2. This is the mirrors i got..  :cheers: Phil


http://i51.tinypic.com/n4dqiu.jpg[/IMG]


Gidday Phil / Flem
I've used these mirrors for the past few months on my vehicles,   got em at supercrap.
On the first tug, the old hilux,  the mirrors were the old small style that adjust by hand, so they struggled to stay put when a semi went past on the hwy (they blew in a bit)  I had to jerry rig a wire support stay when I first used them.
On my new tug (the d-max), the mirrors are better moulded etc, so don't move.
What I did do is turn the extended mirror 90 degrees so I could overlap the extended mirror slightly with the car mirror whilst still having the mirror stick out far enough to see well down the side.  This just gives a bit more rigidity to the whole thing, as they do wobble a bit sometimes.

 :cheers:
Nutto.

P.S,  check one of my earlier threads on the door vent issue.
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=11391.msg169466#msg169466
Although the newies have a different door, the vent is the same, and one I saw at a recent show was exactly the same as mine....
As a follow up this this earlier post, Teabag just had his door replaced under warranty from water damage.  May pay to check yours & look for sealant between the 2 vent panels?
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 10, 2011, 07:53:16 PM
Thanks Nutto, appreciate your advice.

Flem
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Hairs on July 10, 2011, 09:35:43 PM
We use one of these on the drivers side only on the Cruiser.
(http://media.supercheapauto.com.au/bcf/images/164899.jpg)
http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Towing-Mirror-Multi-Fit-Heavy-Duty.aspx?pid=164899#Description (http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Towing-Mirror-Multi-Fit-Heavy-Duty.aspx?pid=164899#Description)
Still doesn't stop idiots sitting up ya arse. >:(
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 10, 2011, 09:38:31 PM
It looks good, does it vibrate much at high speeds or with trucks passing?  ???
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Hairs on July 10, 2011, 09:42:45 PM
It looks good, does it vibrate much at high speeds or with trucks passing?  ???
I haven't noticed, had it for about two years now.
I get a bit of vibration out of the factory Cruiser mirror, not the frame just the glass bit.
There are two rubber straps that hold it in place. Tighten the big plastic nut at the back, that stops the wobble a fair bit.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Geoffwin on July 11, 2011, 07:11:05 PM
You can get a set of these from FleaBay for just $59-99  I have used similar ones to these in the past and they have been more than satisfactory.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CARAVAN-TOWING-MIRROR-H-DUTY-RATCHET-STYLE-PAIR-/250846945329?pt=Caravan_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a67a4a031


I just ended up with a pair of these at $59 + $20 postage.

Looked up a couple of local stores websites and saw the price to be $89, so I thought I would buy local, went in and they did not have any BUT the price was for each. Also went to a couple of automotive chain stores and they ranged from $89 to $119 EACH.

I would like to do the local thing but at $40 each ebay was used. From what I could see they are exactly the same thing (of course I might have a different opinion when they turn up)
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 13, 2011, 06:51:29 PM
I bought the mirror the same as 'Hairs' from BCF  for my ML Triton but found the way it adjusted didn't suit the tapered shape of the Triton mirror.

back to the drawing board
Flem
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Hairs on July 13, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
back to the drawing board
Flem
I'm sorry to hear that. Just the wrong shape for the Triton?
Damn. Can ya return them?
Be good if you can.
 ;D


Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 13, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
Yeah mate I returned them today so it's all good. I will go down to Super-cheap on the weekend and have a look if their's will suit the Triton shape.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: flemtina on July 15, 2011, 06:59:03 PM
I picked up this mirror yesterday and it seems to suit the Triton's tapered shaped mirrors better IMO. Might be handy info for other Triton owners.

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Towing-Mirror-SCA-Dual-View-Adjustable-Single.aspx?pid=214982#Description

Flem
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Geoffwin on July 18, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
Turned up today

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250846945329

Must admit they are pretty good for the price, very solid on the door. The only possible weak spot would be the tension adjuster on the mirror itself, these are only a pressure fitting with 3 small screws. I have known them to rust up, and the rubber insert to perish and then the mirror has to be that tight it cannot be adjusted or it flaps around everywhere..

Anyway they will do fine, will be good to be able to see behind the camper for a change. Bit disconcerting not be able to see vehicles behind until they start to over take.
Title: Re: Towing Mirrors with Jayco Camper
Post by: Hairs on July 18, 2011, 09:07:01 PM
Bit disconcerting not be able to see vehicles behind until they start to over take.
Hmmm Yeah, Bloody frustrating at times, I can fully understand why truckies get the S%$ts at times.
Traveling(@90kph) between Woodenbong and Kyogle after Easter in the pouring rain, a dark grey dual cab Hilux 2wd was sitting up my bum(without lights on) I didn't know they were there until Navara04 told me over the UHF, then I saw a blinker flash as they pulled out of my spray and they over took on double whites heading into a sharpish 75kmp corner.
Even with the mirrors on, they seem to sit that close that at times I am so tempted jamb my brakes on. I have a huge toolbox and the two spare wheels on the back and some descent bar work.
 >:D