Hi gronk, that does sound tasty, It just a memory for me now to, We sold our house block and our share of the family farm at Cootharaba too my older brother, we live in Cooroy now, Misses was sick of living there I was sick of my brother, So we ate the last of our steers last year, gee I miss great meat, If we buy meat now We just buy MSA rib filet from my butcher in Gympie, and do buggers or salad with it, its very nice but not as good as home killed meat, Craig