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New generator oil
« on: May 09, 2022, 10:33:05 AM »
hi all,

just organised a new generator for Dad... a Yamaha 6.3kVA inverter generator...

just sorting out oil... in the book it says 10W-30 or 10W-40... looks like the 40 is for a bit higher temperatures, which is probably right for where we are (Mackay)...

i can only get the 10w-30 in town... would that be OK to start with?

generator won't be used that often, more for blackout protection.  will be run every other month for a about 30 minutes to keep it ticking over...
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2022, 02:06:23 PM »
Any oil is better than no oil, but the correct oil, is better than the incorrect oil.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2022, 04:52:22 PM »
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 09, 2022, 02:06:23 PM
Any oil is better than no oil, but the correct oil, is better than the incorrect oil.

so, 10W-30 will be OK?  it is specified in the manual as the default choice.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2022, 05:39:33 PM »
It’ll be fine  :cheers:
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2022, 05:43:04 PM »
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2022, 05:58:20 PM »
You went for a quality geni and you can't find the time to swing by a supercheap or bursons?
The 40 becomes important if running for days under high load in hot conditions ie.. what you bought it for.
It will only be 400 -600ml.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2022, 06:50:31 PM »
Quote from: 2Strokeit on May 09, 2022, 05:58:20 PM
You went for a quality geni and you can't find the time to swing by a supercheap or bursons?
The 40 becomes important if running for days under high load in hot conditions ie.. what you bought it for.
It will only be 400 -600ml.
I’m asking whether there is much of a difference between the two…

Thought it better to ask for some advice…

I haven’t bought the oil yet… generator takes 1.3L to fill…


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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2022, 07:14:56 PM »
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2022, 07:47:01 PM »
Quote from: Bird on May 09, 2022, 07:14:56 PM
https://www.repairsmith.com/i/blog/10w30-vs-10w40/

FWIW, It'll be fine.
Thanks for that… that is similar to other articles I have read on the topic…

Might go with the 10w-30 for now… easier and cheaper to get locally…


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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2022, 07:54:39 PM »
Does your old man have mechanical sympathy or set and forget.
My old man got me to get him 2 Honda's linked by a cord for same purpose,  only gets serviced when I visit.
Run the 10w30 and if at the first oil change it looks the same as the new oil going in then the engine isn't stressed.
I run syn 5w30 in 2 4wds and small car and 5w40 in a wakeboard boat under constant heavy load.
Consensus seems to be it doesn't matter.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2022, 08:14:24 PM »
Quote from: 2Strokeit on May 09, 2022, 07:54:39 PM
Does your old man have mechanical sympathy or set and forget.
My old man got me to get him 2 Honda's linked by a cord for same purpose,  only gets serviced when I visit.
Run the 10w30 and if at the first oil change it looks the same as the new oil going in then the engine isn't stressed.
I run syn 5w30 in 2 4wds and small car and 5w40 in a wakeboard boat under constant heavy load.
Consensus seems to be it doesn't matter.
His health dictates that he won’t be able to service it  himself regularly…

I have found a local supplier of Penrite 10w40, which also fits the required spec (API SE or higher, which I know is obsolete… current spec is SP, which the Penrite oil fulfills…)

I might be overthinking, but I just want to get on the right footing straight away…


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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2022, 02:38:30 AM »
grab the Penrite, great oils, i won't use anything else.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2022, 05:56:09 AM »
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 10, 2022, 02:38:30 AM
grab the Penrite, great oils, i won't use anything else.

i use penrite in my cars... so, will go for their 10w-40...
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2022, 09:12:50 AM »
We used Penrite in every 4 stroke we have/had.

Boats, cars, motorbikes.... the works.

Lucas Oil Products make excellent additives as well.

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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2022, 09:15:11 AM »
If going with Penrite, I'd look at using HPR 5 - 5W40, although it has API SP approval, it also has MB 229.5 approval which is an excellent oil spec (far better then SP on its own)
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2022, 07:51:01 AM »
Not sure if it’s applicable to the Yamaha but with the Honda I bought an attachment that goes into the oil filler and extends it making draining the oil a much less messy affair.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2022, 09:26:14 AM »
Hi,
   The generator I bought is messy to drain, oil goes everywhere. An Oil syringe totally fixed the problem.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2022, 07:45:11 PM »
It will be fine. I currently have a Yamaha EF2000is. I saw the WEN 56200i on hot deals recently https://houseandbeyond.org/best-generators/ the first one and couldn't pass it up for the price. I could have bought two of these and had change for what I paid for the Yamaha. The reason that I purchased the WEN is that the engine is a Yamaha clone, it's very similar inside, and the wiring diagrams are virtually the same so that I believe I can parallel the two generators. It's made in China, but the Yamaha has a label inside that it's made in China also. Smarter tools also has the Yamaha engine but they lablel theirs "Powered By Yamaha". I don't know if WEN licenses this engine or if it's a knockoff. I'm betting that both units might be made side by side in the same Chinese factory.
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2022, 07:53:26 PM »
Quote from: PhilWynn on October 28, 2022, 07:45:11 PM
It will be fine. I currently have a Yamaha EF2000is. I saw the WEN 56200i on hot deals recently https://houseandbeyond.org/best-generators/ the first one and couldn't pass it up for the price. I could have bought two of these and had change for what I paid for the Yamaha. The reason that I purchased the WEN is that the engine is a Yamaha clone, it's very similar inside, and the wiring diagrams are virtually the same so that I believe I can parallel the two generators. It's made in China, but the Yamaha has a label inside that it's made in China also. Smarter tools also has the Yamaha engine but they lablel theirs "Powered By Yamaha". I don't know if WEN licenses this engine or if it's a knockoff. I'm betting that both units might be made side by side in the same Chinese factory.

Where'd you get the Wen from?
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Re: New generator oil
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2022, 08:40:21 PM »
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