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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2020, 07:44:33 PM »
Quote from: lloydus67 on August 12, 2020, 07:17:09 PM
Chances of 2 drives Fukien up on same day, slim, unless say your house burns down in a bushfire or something dramatic like that.
How safe or secure are clouds. Unless you are worried that your explicit photos are able to be viewed by some 3rd party? It’s more about you being able to one day access those valuable memories should the worst happen to your other copies


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Yeh, no explicit photos...not of me anyway !! Or the wife !!   ;D ;D

I filled up onedrive yrs ago with a windows phone I had....don't even know if or how to access it anymore, or if they're still there ?

I'll probably have to jump into the 22nd century and upload the pics !!   ;D


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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2020, 07:47:43 PM »
Quote from: paceman on August 12, 2020, 07:30:16 PM
Slim, yes... but plenty of things can knock out two local drives at once...

Power spikes or sudden blackouts
Drives bought from the same faulty batch
Buggy automatic firmware upgrades
Computer being bumped
Insect or rodent issues
Software issues on NAS or PC where they are installed
Malware locking access to drives

For a very small outlay, why take the risk... ?

Storage is cheap nowadays.  I would be gutted if I lost all my photos because I was a tightarse or wore my tin foil hat too tightly.


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 I thought it would be pretty slim ( or almost impossible ) for any of that to happen to 2 hard drives sitting in a drawer that would only get powered to upload a few photos once a year !!
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Laptop has died
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2020, 07:51:55 PM »
Quote from: gronk on August 12, 2020, 07:47:43 PM
I thought it would be pretty slim ( or almost impossible ) for any of that to happen to 2 hard drives sitting in a drawer that would only get powered to upload a few photos once a year !!
Not a great thing to do with drives either, to be honest... drives are designed to be used and random handling can cause its own issues...

But hey, do what you want... we’ve tried to offer advice on a cheap, reliable and relatively easy option for backups...

In the end, they’re your photos...


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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2020, 07:52:29 PM »
Quote from: gronk on August 12, 2020, 07:47:43 PM
I thought it would be pretty slim ( or almost impossible ) for any of that to happen to 2 hard drives sitting in a drawer that would only get powered to upload a few photos once a year !!

More the chance of the motors/integrated circuits failing due to lack of use. Also the drives can degauss over time as they are not an archival media.
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2020, 08:40:24 PM »
Quote from: paceman on August 12, 2020, 07:51:55 PM


But hey, do what you want... we’ve tried to offer advice on a cheap, reliable and relatively easy option for backups...

In the end, they’re your photos...


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I'm waiting for a REALLY cheap solution !!   ;D

It'll take me weeks to procrastinate over who is better and cheapest ??
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2020, 09:19:16 PM »
Really cheap, Amazon Glacier. It's more cold storage because it can take a while to get the data out, but it's cheap...
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2020, 09:36:15 PM »
Quote from: Onion on August 12, 2020, 09:19:16 PM
Really cheap, Amazon Glacier. It's more cold storage because it can take a while to get the data out, but it's cheap...

Sounds OK....wouldn't matter if it took a day to get stuff out. How long do you mean ?
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2020, 07:07:42 AM »
$1US / Terabyte / month.
https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2020, 09:53:47 AM »
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$1US / Terabyte / month.
https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/

Hes waiting for a REALLY cheap solution :P
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2020, 11:34:20 AM »
REALLY cheap solution = loose you pics again, for good this time.
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2020, 01:11:05 PM »
Don't know about really cheap ::), but for apparently a really good solution ;D

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/github-code-vault-in-artic-svalbard-safeguards-against-calamity/12517948
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2020, 06:21:34 PM »
Quote from: Bird on August 13, 2020, 09:53:47 AM
Hes waiting for a REALLY cheap solution :P

Mate, seeing as nothing is for free these days....I suppose $1 /mth isn't too bad !!  ;D
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2020, 07:04:57 PM »
Quote from: gronk on August 13, 2020, 06:21:34 PM
Mate, seeing as nothing is for free these days....I suppose $1 /mth isn't too bad !!  ;D
That’s just for the storage...

If you ever need to recover files, it will cost you...

Might need to do a bit more research as to a suitable solution...

Things like Glacier and Backblaze usually require separate client software to allow files to be uploaded to the cloud, or specific scripting time be written.

For your scenario, I’d be looking at OneDrive or Google Drive...

Easy to setup and troubleshoot, if necessary...


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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2020, 07:20:36 PM »
Quote from: paceman on August 13, 2020, 07:04:57 PM
That’s just for the storage...

If you ever need to recover files, it will cost you...

Might need to do a bit more research as to a suitable solution...

Things like Glacier and Backblaze usually require separate client software to allow files to be uploaded to the cloud, or specific scripting time be written.

For your scenario, I’d be looking at OneDrive or Google Drive...

Easy to setup and troubleshoot, if necessary...


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Yeh, you lost me with the computer lingo....the simple solution sounds best !!
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #64 on: October 14, 2020, 07:15:15 PM »
OK smart fellas amongst you all.....stupid win10 has lately decided I need to enter my password on start up.

I've googled it weeks ago and entered the netplwiz in the box and unticked the sign in required box ( it was already unticked , but I ticked it and unticked it ).

Sometimes it doesn't ask for a password, but lately it does ....checked the netplwiz stuff and still unticked.

Has anybody got their win10 NOT asking for a password, and what did you do to make it perform like a "normal" computer ?
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2020, 08:54:41 PM »
Quote from: gronk on October 14, 2020, 07:15:15 PM
Has anybody got their win10 NOT asking for a password, and what did you do to make it perform like a "normal" computer ?

Set mine up when I built it years ago to not ask for a password and it hasn’t asked for one since...

Can you actually log in with a password?


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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2020, 09:30:09 PM »
Quote from: paceman on October 14, 2020, 08:54:41 PM
Set mine up when I built it years ago to not ask for a password and it hasn’t asked for one since...

Can you actually log in with a password?


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Yep, I have to . When I 1st installed win10 it never asked for a password. Then a month or so ago, it asked for a password. I unticked the box, and it stopped it. Now it's asking every time I start the computer, even though I've supposedly told it not to ?

Some people may think it's a minor inconvenience, but I think it's a pain in the ar*e !!
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2020, 12:28:31 AM »
My pc always asks   >:( but my laptop behaves  :cheers:
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2020, 07:01:15 AM »
might be worthwhile changing your password and then trying the netplwiz option again...

could be an issue with the current security token...

disclaimer:  please remember to record your passwords that you change, both old and new... not responsible for a non-accessible laptop... :)
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2020, 12:41:55 PM »
Quote from: gronk on October 14, 2020, 07:15:15 PM

Has anybody got their win10 NOT asking for a password, and what did you do to make it perform like a "normal" computer ?

Normal?.... Big ask on win10 LOL..
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2020, 01:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Troopy_03 on October 15, 2020, 12:41:55 PM
Normal?.... Big ask on win10 LOL..

if my 75yo mum can use windows 10 without issues, then 'normal' is eminently achievable...  ;D

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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2020, 02:06:36 PM »



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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2020, 02:22:07 PM »
Quote from: paceman on October 15, 2020, 07:01:15 AM
might be worthwhile changing your password and then trying the netplwiz option again...

could be an issue with the current security token...

disclaimer:  please remember to record your passwords that you change, both old and new... not responsible for a non-accessible laptop... :)
https://www.useapassphrase.com/
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #73 on: October 15, 2020, 05:49:30 PM »
Quote from: Bird on October 15, 2020, 02:22:07 PM
https://www.useapassphrase.com/

Ha ha...I haven't got any issues with the password being hacked etc...I'm just trying to have no password..
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Re: Laptop has died
« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2020, 08:31:32 AM »
Quote from: paceman on October 15, 2020, 01:46:35 PM
if my 75yo mum can use windows 10 without issues, then 'normal' is eminently achievable...  ;D

I'm not saying it's not usable, it's just such a PITA. I use win10, win7 and Linux MInt 19.3.. Any time I want to do something with as little hassle as possible, I always go to the Mint laptop. And If I absolutely need to use windows, I use Win7 Ultimate, running as a virtual machine on the Linux Laptop, Win 10 only does two jobs that I can't do using Linux or Win7 (easily).
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