How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

[Paddler Ed]

...the bigger issue is that the Dunning Krueger effect seems to be in full swing in the broader public.

Just remember that 50% of the population are of below average intelligence, and they have to legislate for that...

However, in saying that, the Sydney Eastern Suburbs seem to be a breeding ground for C-19 in part due to a lack of common sense... but that was already quite well known...

[tryagain]

Just remember that 50% of the population are of below average intelligence, and they have to legislate for that...

However, in saying that, the Sydney Eastern Suburbs seem to be a breeding ground for C-19 in part due to a lack of common sense... but that was already quite well known...

The other probably bigger issue that leads to the Dunning Krueger effect is people getting their "news" from social media, take in too much of that and anyone could get confused/wrong.
With the eastern suburbs (and northern) getting it the worst, my guess is that those areas have a greater proportion of overseas travelers which leads to them getting worse first as that is where 2/3 of cases have come from so far, the other 1/3 is mostly direct contact of them.

[gronk]

Just remember that 50% of the population are of below average intelligence,

Do you know what the average IQ is ? I want to know if I just sneak into the above average ??   

[Bigfish]

Do you know what the average IQ is ? I want to know if I just sneak into the above average ??   

At  the moment there are many out there with the I.Q. of a shoe.  They have a room full of dunny rolls, 2 freezers full of mincemeat, hold corona virus parties, take the kids shopping  and insist that rules dont apply to them..

[Kangaron]

The most number of cases in Melbourne are centered in the Stonnington municipality, the most affluent in Victoria.

[Fizzie]

The most number of cases in Melbourne are centered in the Stonnington municipality, the most affluent in Victoria.

That goes to the opposite end of the same problem - I'm rich, so rules don't apply to me, & so I can continue to do whatever I like

[rockrat]

No doubt our politicians are listening to the experts they choose to listen to, but there are experts out there with a contradictory view. You just need to see the different responses of different governments all around the world, all of which I am sure are based on the expert advice provided to them (notwithstanding the fact that Trump always has and always will march to his own beat).

The biggest problem with our politicians is the lack of clarity and consistency. Compare them to Jacinda Adern and it is clear to see. NZ may or may not be going down the right path, but at least that path seems clear.


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[plusnq]

The most number of cases in Melbourne are centered in the Stonnington municipality, the most affluent in Victoria.

Probably international travel related.

[alnjan]

Said it before and I'll say it again. We are a nation of selfish pricks.
Next step total lock down and they will wonder why.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8162569/Oblivious-sunbathers-popular-beach-ignore-blatant-warnings-amid-coronavirus-pandemic.html

Cheers Glen

Pretty sad to think the Governments have believe in the people would listen and do the 'right' thing and some of the people showed just how irresponsible they can be.  No wonder we have bans and restrictions with a total lockdown to come. 

[Fizzie]

Pretty sad to think the Governments have believe in the people would listen and do the 'right' thing and some of the people showed just how irresponsible they can be.  No wonder we have bans and restrictions with a total lockdown to come.

& when that happens, you'll still find the same people out wandering, going to the beach, each other's places & so on.

Then when they (hopefully ) get pinged for it, just wait for it - Us What do you mean, the rules apply to everybody Nobody told me

[Hairs]

It isn't that hard.
Home delivery.
Adapt, deal wirh it, overcome it.

[Kangaron]

Probably international travel related.

Spot on, that is why the local schools, St Catherines, Loretto Mandeville etc closed early.My girls went to Loretto and constantly complained that we went to Eildon or the beach on a the holidays and all their class mates went to the Greek islands for the week.

[Brij]

Probably international travel related.

Pretty well correct.

This site has been down all day
https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODBmMmE3NWQtZWNlNC00OWRkLTk1NjYtMjM2YTY1MjI2NzdjIiwidCI6ImMwZTA2MDFmLTBmYWMtNDQ5Yy05Yzg4LWExMDRjNGViOWYyOCJ9 but I have been watching the figures as the numbers increase.

From memory yesterday about 92% of Victoria's infected people had either just returned from overseas, or had aquired the virus from someone who had just retruned from overseas (ie assume mainly family members).

I think only 20 people had been confirmed as picking up the virus locally, from unknown sources, but about 100 still under investigation. 

I also looked at NSW government website last night. It showed similar percentage.

Listening to the Qld premier this morning she gave me the impression they didn't have any community infections yet. All positive results were confined to overseas travellers, or infected by the returning travellers.

[gronk]

(notwithstanding the fact that Trump always has and always will march to his own beat).




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Trump is good at talking himself up, and shoots from the mouth, not the brain, but a day later rolls over and complies with his own medical advice.

[rockrat]

Trump is good at talking himself up, and shoots from the mouth, not the brain, but a day later rolls over and complies with his own medical advice.

Yep, he's the master of throwing a few scraps of red meat to his supporter base!

[plusnq]

Yep, he's the master of throwing a few scraps of red meat to his supporter base!

Reminds me of Keating

[alnjan]

?? BREAKING NEWS - SUNDAY 29/3 - 7PM ??

?? UPDATE FROM THE PM & NATIONAL CABINET:

Following tonight’s National Cabinet meeting, the PM and Chief Medical Officer have announced the following:

🚫 Further restrictions will be introduced on public gatherings

🚫 Public gatherings should be restricted to no more than 2 people (down from 10 currently) outside of your household and except for employment and education which should take into account appropriate social distancing.

🚫 In public areas, public playgrounds and skate parks will be closed from tomorrow.

🛑 People aged 70 and over should stay at home and self-isolate for their own protection to maximum extent possible.

?? On commercial tenancies:

- State and territories will be moving to put a moratorium on evictions of persons as a result of financial distress for next 6 months.

- We want landlords to engage with their tenants: on other side of this, we want landlord to have a tenant that can pay rent and for the business to be able to go on and operate and employ people

💉 Latest medical advice is:
For individuals, strong advice is you must stay at home except to
👉 shop for what you need, food and other essential supplies and do it as infrequently as possible;
👉 get medical care or for compassionate needs
👉 to exercise
👉 for work and education if you cannot work or learn remotely.

👉👉👉 Details on all the above to follow as they come to hand.

?? 16 people have now lost their lives to the coronavirus including 2 deaths today

?? We have the highest rates of testing in the world and one of lowest positive test rates – we are confident we are testing the majority of cases in Australia.

?? About 1600 people went into quarantine today after arriving back from overseas.

?? The daily rate of increase is falling – from 25-30% last week to 9%. But it’s not enough and we have to slow it further - we need to continue to do things that will save lives and livelihoods.

🛑 And for these kind of interventions to work, we need more than 90% of the population to follow them

💻 Tech is helping us get important messages out around coronavirus:

?? You can download a new Coronavirus app for both Apple and Android or join the WhatsApp channel aus.gov.au/whatsapp

[Hairs]

While having a few cold ones of Coopers Pale Ale(shameless plug for an Australian company ) I did a ring around of our 4wd club members, just to ask, R U OK.
Look out for each other.

[Bad Scott]

Onya Hairs. That's the Aussie spirit.

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[Hairs]

Onya Hairs. That's the Aussie spirit.

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As simple as it may seem,
A phone call can mean so much to someone.
Sheeesh, it even does wonders for my own sense of worth & wellbeing.
Makes my day.

Cheers mate.
Thank you.

[Bigfish]

Just watching a specialist on disease being interviewed on channel 7 and he said that  we will be at least 6 months with the conditions imposed on us at the moment.  He said that there are just so many unknowns that it is even possible we may be 12-18 months living in the same state as we are now...no easy or quick fix.  Just have to hope a vaccine can be found and produced asap....not real good news eh?

[Hairs]

Just watching a specialist on disease being interviewed on channel 7 and he said that  we will be at least 6 months with the conditions imposed on us at the moment.  He said that there are just so many unknowns that it is even possible we may be 12-18 months living in the same state as we are now...no easy or quick fix.  Just have to hope a vaccine can be found and produced asap....not real good news eh?

We, Australians have this awesome thing, freedom of movement.
This is farken with people like nothing has for over 75 years.
We, all of us have to come to terms with a change, a reset, our world has changed.

[tryagain]

Just watching a specialist on disease being interviewed on channel 7 and he said that  we will be at least 6 months with the conditions imposed on us at the moment.  He said that there are just so many unknowns that it is even possible we may be 12-18 months living in the same state as we are now...no easy or quick fix.  Just have to hope a vaccine can be found and produced asap....not real good news eh?

This is what those who call for a lockdown don't seem to get, it's not shut down for a few weeks and then back to normal, whatever we do needs to be for the long haul, If you can believe China, they got on-top of it but that took 2 months of total lockdown to the point of welding people's doors shut so they couldn't get out, now they have pulled back the restrictions somewhat, but they are still far more severe than we have here.

NZ seem to be having a shot ar the eradication route, will be interesting to see if it's successful.

[Bird]

If you can believe China, they got on-top of it but that took 2 months of total lockdown to the point of welding people's doors shut so they couldn't get out,

can I phone a friend, or swap questions please. 

NZ seem to be having a shot ar the eradication route, will be interesting to see if it's successful.

I hope we arent waiting for the results..

[GGV8Cruza]

The most number of cases in Melbourne are centered in the Stonnington municipality, the most affluent in Victoria.

Just where I am working at the moment. Go from a place of isolation and quiet on the weekend at our place and drive into this madhouse.

GG