Gas mains relocation

[rockrat]

Has anyone had recent experience getting their gas mains from the street to the meter relocated? If so, was it easy to organise and what did it cost?

Looks like I’m going to need to have mine buried deeper somI can get the new driveway where I want. As it is the installation doesn’t comply with standards - large sections are less than the 450mm standard with no marker strip at all!


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[ronmac]

I believe the onus is on you for relocation, First time set up from the curb to the front corner of the house was free then it required a plumber cum gas fitter to connect to your required locations inside the house. See if you can contact a plumber/ gasfitter , for a better classification. Good luck with that. cheers Ron.

[rockrat]

Thanks Ron, i spoke with the gasfitter and he said everything up to  the meter has to be done by APA. That said, may have come up with a plan that doesnt involve moving the line.


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[Pete79]

I thought you might have got a few more knowledgeable responses on this one.
My experience is only industrial/commercial and it is all bad whenever anything street side of the meter is required.

Guaranteed way to delay a project is to get any gas authority in any state involved.
All I can say is if you do need to move your meter it’s probably a good time to practice some meditation and stay calm as you deal with the run around you’re going to get....

[rockrat]

I thought you might have got a few more knowledgeable responses on this one.
My experience is only industrial/commercial and it is all bad whenever anything street side of the meter is required.

Guaranteed way to delay a project is to get any gas authority in any state involved.
All I can say is if you do need to move your meter it’s probably a good time to practice some meditation and stay calm as you deal with the run around you’re going to get....

Origin rang back today. Apparently Australian Gas Networks owns the network and line right up to the meter. For a non-refundable $80 I can get someone to come out and give a quote (within 10 business days) to relocate the line. Then if I accept the quote it would take up to 20 business days to get line moved. Or it would appear I can pay $80 to “abolish” the connection and potentially $0 to reconnect. But that could mean no hot water for 20 business days so not really a good option.

I’ve also decided to contact AGN directly to point out the current service line is not installed in accordance with Australian Standards (one advantage of being an engineer and working for a company with full access to all Australian Standards) and they should fix it as it could be a safety issue. They have committed to getting back to me by Friday.

But if all else fails, I’ve probably got a solution that leaves the gas line where it is.


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[rags]

Rockrat, unfortunately my QLD gas licence does not extend to work on the network side of the meter ( unlike my NSW licence) so cant help you

I am guessing your on the poor side of the river given your conversation with APA as APA control the network on the south side of Brisbane whereas if falls to Australian Gas Networks on the north side.
Yes it is required to get either of these organisations ( dependent on which side of rive) to install, maintain a service on the network side of the meter as it is their infrastructure. They will use a contractor.

Interested in which AS you are reading.

Is it your intention to put a drive over the service as I’m wondering if you can “gently” lower it.
Do you know what material the existing is? I suspect it maybe yellow Rilsan polymer pipe, which is super easy to repair a live service but I can’t share how you do this on this forum.

If you want send me a message.

[rockrat]

Rockrat, unfortunately my QLD gas licence does not extend to work on the network side of the meter ( unlike my NSW licence) so cant help you

I am guessing your on the poor side of the river given your conversation with APA as APA control the network on the south side of Brisbane whereas if falls to Australian Gas Networks on the north side.
Yes it is required to get either of these organisations ( dependent on which side of rive) to install, maintain a service on the network side of the meter as it is their infrastructure. They will use a contractor.

Interested in which AS you are reading.

Is it your intention to put a drive over the service as I’m wondering if you can “gently” lower it.
Do you know what material the existing is? I suspect it maybe yellow Rilsan polymer pipe, which is super easy to repair a live service but I can’t share how you do this on this forum.

If you want send me a message.

Hi Rags, I’m in the inner west so technically north of the river and yes I have since found out it is AGN not APA. Don’t quote me but I think it was AS4645.3 (edited which covers networks but there are other gas piping codes as well.  The short section I’ve uncovered is a combination of metal near the meter and there is a bend of yellow striped black poly with a thicker yellow covering.
I plan to do exactly as you suggest and if need be try and lower it.





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[rags]

Hi Rags, I’m in the inner west so technically north of the river and yes I have since found out it is AGN not APA. Don’t quote me but I think it was AS4645.3 (edited which covers networks but there are other gas piping codes as well.  The short section I’ve uncovered is a combination of metal near the meter and there is a bend of yellow striped black poly with a thicker yellow covering.
I plan to do exactly as you suggest and if need be try and lower it.





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I wondered about the standard as there is 5601 but it is only for the property side of meter; 4645 for network stuff and 2885 for network in excess of 1050 Kpa.
The yellow stripe pipe is hdpe, so similar to rilsan can be worked on live it is just you need a tool like this
https://www.cadia.com.au/product-group/31198-prospec-poly-shut-off-tool-mini/category/3797-pipe-shutdown

[rockrat]

I wondered about the standard as there is 5601 but it is only for the property side of meter; 4645 for network stuff and 2885 for network in excess of 1050 Kpa.
The yellow stripe pipe is hdpe, so similar to rilsan can be worked on live it is just you need a tool like this
https://www.cadia.com.au/product-group/31198-prospec-poly-shut-off-tool-mini/category/3797-pipe-shutdown

It just happens I’m running a project at work that involves modifying an industrial LPG network that’s why some of the standards are a bit fresher in my mind.  But I know my limitations!


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[rags]

It just happens I’m running a project at work that involves modifying an industrial LPG network that’s why some of the standards are a bit fresher in my mind.  But I know my limitations!


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Hi pressure LPG installations was my specialty back in the day, but QLD don’t recognise advanced LPG as a license class unlike NSW, I now I specialise in hooking up swap n go bottle to the BBQ , while doing the odd caravan install and drive a desk chair these days for my day job.

[Pete79]

Hi pressure LPG installations was my specialty back in the day, but QLD don’t recognise advanced LPG as a license class unlike NSW, I now I specialise in hooking up swap n go bottle to the BBQ , while doing the odd caravan install and drive a desk chair these days for my day job.

I don’t think your NSW desk chair license is recognized on the good side of the boarder either....

Might need to book in a weekend re-training course for that one.
I’m doing a re-training course this weekend myself. Hopefully 4 days sitting looking at the ocean on Fraser should have me all up to speed again.