Thanks Wayne for that. I am still pondering what to do, As my mate Murray can get me one at trade price, buts its still $760 and the freezer in the top is the same size as the 55lt I have, the cheap 55lt upright fridge its great for the black top touring we have done but I am worried when we go up the Cape next year it mite not handle the Corrugation, Then we have the 100lt trailblazer chest freezer its great for extended stays but a bugger to get the lid open in the back of the 80 series, I Just thought maybe I just take a light weight work horse to pull the trailblazer out a bit and sit it on it, so we can open it, Yes I think I will do that as we can take all our meat and and snags and bacon and put a bit of ply half way up and still have enough room for drinks and milk and bread and unfrozen tucker, They look a good fridge, Oh mate mate had the new Engal 80 or 90lt up right at his shed in a Ally canopy he just finished it looked like all the control panel was moulded and not fixable and no fuses anywhere, Thanks Craig