Considering a Electric fat bike for tracks and areas where I camp

[weeds]

Yeah good bits of kit, don’t know why we stuffed around with the old style hanging type carriers.


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[cyberess]

I did actually purchase a Fat Ebike http://voltbike.com.au/product/jumbo-plus-m620-premium-snow-sand/ but the deal sort of fell down, as I think I was just a bit early with this bike -- as they appeared to be still sorting out this bike, and I thought I am a bit far away, still thinking bout this one and Volt bike appears to been quite honest about what's going on, but a bit confusing.

Some bikes that I have under consideration:
The Zoco Xtreme 250W / 500W Dual mode Electric

https://www.aseakoelectricbikes.com.au/product/zoco-xtreme-250w-500w-electric-bike-nuvinci-optimised/ Bike
For:

• The bike has a 500W motor  that selectable modes which means that the bike can swap between Street mode and off road mode and the very big plus it has a hand throttle which can be used in off road mode
• Lots of reviews, and plenty of happy customers but the look of it https://www.productreview.com.au/p/aseako-electric-bike/m/zoco-xtreme.html and https://www.productreview.com.au/p/aseako-electric-bike.html
• A great video review
• https://youtu.be/Xp7rLKl-Vdw
• NuVinci CVT gearing system --  I count this as a big plus
• Decent suspension with Rock Shocks
• Built in back rack

Against:

• Could be a bit top heavy
• Mechanical Disk Brakes
• Batteries are expensive
• A not so good review at ElectricBikeReview.com https://youtu.be/Hn5RM0oFiy0  although this was a 2014 review for a 250W version

Blade BigBoy 26

https://bladebikes.com.au/product/bigboy-26/
For:

• Looks like a nice setup with fat tyres etc
• Large Battery, and the guys selling extra batteries for $395, which is very reasonable.
• Being 48V setup is better than 36V setup
• Front forks are air forks
• Should be O.K. to mount a rack to
• Reasonable price
• Reasonable shipping
• Hydraulic Brakes

Against:

• 250W motor -- I would prefer a larger motor
• Lack of any reviews
• No hand throttle at all
• Fat tyres could be prone to puntures -- although I will be converting the tyres to a tubless setup

2018 Powerider Charger 26X4.0 Fat Boy

http://www.justride.com.au/product/powerider-charger-26x4-0-fat-boy/

For:

• Looks like a nice setup with fat tyres etc
• Should be O.K. to mount a rack to
• Reasonable price
• Reasonable shipping
• Hydraulic Brakes
• Good reviews of the companies other offerings https://youtu.be/cj0JRNy_WEM and at https://www.productreview.com.au/p/powerider-thunder.html

Against:

• 250W motor
• Lack of any reviews
• No hand throttle at all
• Only spring front shocks
• Fat tyres could be prone to puntures -- although I will be converting the tyres to a tubless setup

There is certainly a lot to select from -- just like working out which 4WD to purchase 

 

[tryagain]

Have you had a look here https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=21

[cyberess]

The bike here --  came in the post 



I eneded up with a Blade BigBoy 26 -- I have to say Blade bike have been real easy to deal with



Very well packaged, and easy to put together, just bolt on the the front wheel and the peddles  -- It's certainly a huge bike, already tested the bike up a few hill, yeah it's a 250W 48V, completely legal and seems to go well, I will take it for a few rides over the weekend.

 

[Foo]

 

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[cyberess]

Tubeless conversion done 

I used a Ghetto Tubeless a with split tube method as inspired by this Youtube  video https://youtu.be/Omj1_-TNovg
and I used a standard automobile puncher sealant

as inspired by https://youtu.be/3LAqubBLzYc

The Ghetto Tubeless a with split tube method, is that you use a smaller tube wide tube -- I was thinking of a 20" x 3" BMX bike tube, I have read of a couple of bike forums that is a optimal size, I dropped into a  bike shop, ask and asked about obtaining a wide tube for 20" wheel or a 24" wheel and they didn't actually have any  -- and when I explained what I was planning on doing, gee did they ever look at me strangely -- thought I was a bit weird. The reason the tube needs to be tight is that needs to be tight on the rim once the the tube has been split.

After leaving the bike shop with nothing, I had a bit of a brain wave, what about a motorbike tube, dropped into a motorbike shop, picked up a couple of 21"x 2.45/3.00 tubes.


What I liked about these tubes is the valve stem setup, it's particularly useful for this style of conversion, as the valve stem is threaded all the way.


Tube split and installed on my before the excess tube is trimmed trim.


The finished result.


What has surprised me on how easy the conversion actually was, and now I ride knowing a puncture from a thorn, or a nail should not stop me.

 




 

[cyberess]

My first larger ride, 50km ride on the fat Bigboy bike from Darwin to Howard Springs and back. I love it I can just stick to bike tracks  .

What has surprised me is how little power i used, only about 20% of the battery was used, I did mainly ride out on peddle assist level 2, out of 5 which is max, and on the way out I found myself riding at 28km/h on the flat, The bike is limited to 25Km/h so riding at 27km/h I think that's mainly my own leg power . On the way back, a head wind I was sitting 24.5Km/h and on peddle assist 3.  Only 20% power used for 50Km not bad, I am going to have some range.

What's a ride without photos:




 

[plusnq]

Tubeless conversion done 

I used a Ghetto Tubeless a with split tube method as inspired by this Youtube  video https://youtu.be/Omj1_-TNovg
and I used a standard automobile puncher sealant

as inspired by https://youtu.be/3LAqubBLzYc

The Ghetto Tubeless a with split tube method, is that you use a smaller tube wide tube -- I was thinking of a 20" x 3" BMX bike tube, I have read of a couple of bike forums that is a optimal size, I dropped into a  bike shop, ask and asked about obtaining a wide tube for 20" wheel or a 24" wheel and they didn't actually have any  -- and when I explained what I was planning on doing, gee did they ever look at me strangely -- thought I was a bit weird. The reason the tube needs to be tight is that needs to be tight on the rim once the the tube has been split.

After leaving the bike shop with nothing, I had a bit of a brain wave, what about a motorbike tube, dropped into a motorbike shop, picked up a couple of 21"x 2.45/3.00 tubes.


What I liked about these tubes is the valve stem setup, it's particularly useful for this style of conversion, as the valve stem is threaded all the way.


Tube split and installed on my before the excess tube is trimmed trim.


The finished result.


What has surprised me on how easy the conversion actually was, and now I ride knowing a puncture from a thorn, or a nail should not stop me.

 

Great stuff. Thanks for sharing that. I'm impressed with the solution and the bike's range. 

[Fizzie]

& for a bit of breaking news, that may not have made it to the NT yet

Somewhere about 46 years ago, the rest of Australia got rid of them mile things & replaced 'em with kilometres

[plusnq]

& for a bit of breaking news, that may not have made it to the NT yet

Somewhere about 46 years ago, the rest of Australia got rid of them mile things & replaced 'em with kilometres

Yeh. But then everyone had further to ride....


 

[cyberess]

Yeah -- I think that's in miles, as to be historical, as the bike track was the old narrow gauge railway line.

Just a quick note if anyone planning on following the Ghetto Tubeless a with split tube method as I have done as following the Youtube  video https://youtu.be/Omj1_-TNovg -- I didn't use any foam strip as the guy had in video, it would have would have been just too tight, I think my tyres are different as having a wired bead and the tyres were able to be pumped up by a normal floor bike pump -- just had to pump a bit quicker till the tyre completely sealed. I actually did purchase a foam fitness to chop up to use as a foam filler for $5 as from BigW, have to say the cheapest way of buying hi density foam -- Maybe I will just use the mat for fitness, nar not likely to happen  .

Now what I have done with the old tube -- I have wrapped it around the hub to carry as a spare, just in case -- it might get me out of trouble some day.


 

[speewa158]

Can you get an Electric Zimmer Frame  when you get ,,,,,older     

[cyberess]

Can you get an Electric Zimmer Frame  when you get ,,,,,older     

I haven't quite worked out where this fits into this conversation  -- maybe a reference that ebike are only for old people or something.

Came across a fairly interesting story of a chap that traverse the Canning Stock Route on a solar powered Fat Ebike, certainly a bit die hard.

https://rideonmagazine.com.au/ebiking-the-outback/

Me and my fat ebike well it just fun to be out there -- can't say that I can't see myself doing the Canning Stock Route on a ebike, but that article is a interesting read https://rideonmagazine.com.au/ebiking-the-outback/.