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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2018, 12:00:13 PM »
What is this handbrake you speak of?
Just this morning I had to explain to my wife why the neighbour ‘rudely’ parks his 100 series facing the wrong way with the front wheels turned up the kerb. I’ll bet it’s in low range too.

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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2018, 03:12:47 PM »
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2018, 05:48:16 PM »
On a side note.......
where did you camp for those 12 days on the island? is there somewhere you'd recommend? Planning on a similar time span in Feb.....
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2018, 07:21:14 PM »


    Waddy Point Camp Ground, the top one off the beach. One of only two places you can have a camp fire. Really good toilets and showers and large shady sites. The only downside is that it's a fair way up the island and you have some tracks and soft sand to negotiate which can be a bummer if you are towing.

Not sure where the other camp ground with fires allowed is, but Dili Village allows campfires....has power if needed, good showers and nice grass, as well as fully fenced.
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2018, 07:30:46 PM »
Just this morning I had to explain to my wife why the neighbour ‘rudely’ parks his 100 series facing the wrong way with the front wheels turned up the kerb. I’ll bet it’s in low range too.

I carry a wheel chock, there are some inclines where even when in low range the clutch does slip a bit.

Waddy Point Camp Ground, the top one off the beach. One of only two places you can have a camp fire. Really good toilets and showers and large shady sites. The only downside is that it's a fair way up the island and you have some tracks and soft sand to negotiate which can be a bummer if you are towing.

At low tide you can drive a bit further to the Orchid Beach access and then drive up the beach to Waddy Point camp ground.  This way you avoid that U-turn at the top of the hill where the soft sand is and where morons tend to congregate.

Not sure where the other camp ground with fires allowed is, but Dili Village allows campfires....has power if needed, good showers and nice grass, as well as fully fenced.

Waddy Point Top campground allows fires.
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2018, 06:07:46 AM »
I carry a wheel chock, there are some inclines where even when in low range the clutch does slip a bit.

At low tide you can drive a bit further to the Orchid Beach access and then drive up the beach to Waddy Point camp ground.  This way you avoid that U-turn at the top of the hill where the soft sand is and where morons tend to congregate.

Waddy Point Top campground allows fires.

When I had Toyotas I carried a chock for boat ramps. I see one went in at tin can bay just last week. Dundaburra is the other parks site with fire rings. As far as I know Dilli village is still under private lease. You can have fires anywhere under lease - 2nd valley eurong, orchid, happy valley, dilli etc so long as there isn’t a high fire danger.

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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2018, 06:45:13 AM »
4wd club "training courses" are not worth the time and effort.

They are alway run by the "self appointed" expert and there is always a cost.

Most are not accredited or a Registered Trainng Organisation (RTO). So the trading you receive isn't worth anything.

You are better off giving the clubs a miss and attend a registered and certified off road course.

Funny, all the courses I've been involved in while doing my accreditation the people always come out of it with high praise, and things like
'I never knew my car could do that'
'I never knew I could do that'
'I'd never have had the confidence to go through those areas..."

the clubs you looked at much really suck. but I don't know any Victorian club that has 'self appointed' experts. Having said that, not all clubs currently have trainers.
None of the 4 clubs I've been in have charged for driver training.
Really?
You seen what they charge? Even 4wd Victoria courses are expensive..

Clubs are always worth it for the training, but some clubs politics take over and destroy the life of the club.

Gotta agree with the Birdism.......... :o :o :P

Think you'll find as a directive from the National council (governing body of the state associations and thus all association clubs) that ALL trainers have to be Cert4 accredited. (I do know that is the case in WA).

Also to note Seadoo, there are numerous clubs which are NOT within the association banner and therefore "do as they please". 
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« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2018, 08:45:48 AM »
Also to note Seadoo, there are numerous clubs which are NOT within the association banner and therefore "do as they please".

Don’t you mean there are a handful of clubs STILL in the association?? ;)
Been a mass exodus from QLD and NSW associations over the last few years. 4WD QLD only has a couple of clubs left.

With regards to the driver training. Any training is better then none in my view.

If it’s from an accredited trainer, a “self appointed expert” or just a friend who has a lot of experience, as long as someone can give correct guidance on the basic safety and procedures it’s better then finding out the hard way.

I have attended several training days run by “self appointed experts” and I guarantee all of the novices that came along on these gained extremely valuable knowledge and now have a much greater understanding of the basics to keep them selves and everyone around them out of trouble.

I say if a responsible experienced person is prepared to impart some of their knowledge onto others with absolutely no idea and help save one potentially dangerous situation, that’s a good thing.

If you believe you need to fork out for a full blown 2 day accredited course before you can hit the tracks that’s fine too.

Any knowledge is good knowledge when it comes to safe 4wding.
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« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2018, 09:00:22 AM »
I get alot of training from Russell Coight 😎
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« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2018, 09:23:01 AM »
I get alot of training from Russell Coight
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« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2018, 09:32:09 AM »
Did anybody ever hear any more about his new Series that was supposed to be on TV in 2017 ???
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2018, 09:43:44 AM »
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Did anybody ever hear any more about his new Series that was supposed to be on TV in 2017 ???

They realized it wasn't a poorly named so called renovation "show" or a cooking "show" that are only popularity contests.. so it got shelved.
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« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2018, 09:50:50 AM »
They realized it wasn't a poorly named so called renovation "show" or a cooking "show" that are only popularity contests.. so it got shelved.

Would it be Coightis interuptus ??

Or shelved for good ??   ;D ;D
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« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2018, 10:01:09 AM »
Don’t you mean there are a handful of clubs STILL in the association?? ;)
Been a mass exodus from QLD and NSW associations over the last few years. 4WD QLD only has a couple of clubs left.


Really?  Our club (Mitsubishi 4WD Owners Club QLD) recently ran the annual 4WD QLD Corroboree which involved some 20 clubs and around 600 people.
Still a VERY healthy association..

All our club members do a driving course, either with the club's accredited trainers or with an equivalent organisation. You must do that to be able to participate in club trips and be covered by our insurance.
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« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2018, 10:05:43 AM »
Really?  Our club (Mitsubishi 4WD Owners Club QLD) recently ran the annual 4WD QLD Corroboree which involved some 20 clubs and around 600 people.
Still a VERY healthy association..

All our club members do a driving course, either with the club's accredited trainers or with an equivalent organisation. You must do that to be able to participate in club trips and be covered by our insurance.
were all the clubs that attended actually still in the association?...i know several people that attended the Corroborree from my old club under that clubs banner, and that club is no longer in the association. Maybe they were at the time of the event (as i said I'm not in the club these days to know), but I do know the club has left the association.
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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2018, 10:10:47 AM »
20 clubs today of the 50 that where signed up a couple of years ago.

And the 10 or so the pulled the pin at the end of the last financial year.

I think 4WD QLD has been taking financial advise from Russell Coight lately... ;) ;D

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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2018, 10:19:20 AM »
were all the clubs that attended actually still in the association?...

They would have to have been at the time of the event.
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2018, 10:22:29 AM »
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Would it be Coightis interuptus ??

Or shelved for good ??   ;D ;D

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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2018, 10:58:56 AM »
Our club (Mitsubishi 4WD Owners Club QLD) recently ran the annual .........

Gee, the Mitsie club must be desperate for members if they accept Toyota owners  ;D

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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2018, 11:29:40 AM »
Gee, the Mitsie club must be desperate for members if they accept Toyota owners  ;D

Haha.. Most clubs have a mix of makes.   :cheers:
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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2018, 12:29:05 PM »
I am like Groucho Marx, who once said he would never want to join a club that would have him as a member.

If people  don't have access to professional training the very least they could  do is spend an hour or two on YouTube. There they will find any number of professionally produced videos on recovery techniques.

I am sure some people will take issue with some fine details in individual videos  but all those I have seen are basically in tune with the professional training I have had.   

And even more that show how it should not be done.

This one caught my eye, particularly for the carry on after the recovery.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnCcchwj4_k     

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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2018, 12:47:48 PM »
Really?  Our club (Mitsubishi 4WD Owners Club QLD) recently ran the annual 4WD QLD Corroboree which involved some 20 clubs and around 600 people.
Still a VERY healthy association..

All our club members do a driving course, either with the club's accredited trainers or with an equivalent organisation. You must do that to be able to participate in club trips and be covered by our insurance.

Gawd, this is gonna hurt..............but I agree with Mr Cruza  :o :o    there, I said it........

Fraser clean up is another strong turn out of association clubs and members.

Be interesting if this exodus is reflected in the clean up numbers.

Haha.. Most clubs have a mix of makes.   :cheers:

Bit your tongue kind sir....... ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Fraser Island Idiot Report
« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2018, 01:25:17 PM »
earlier today
3 barges going, apparently line moving pretty quickly




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« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2018, 05:45:54 PM »
in this day of information, ignorance is a choice

Consider this line stolen, because it's 100% true!

Hey Hookie, you need to thank Donny Miller who Topcat stole it from  ;D

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« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2018, 06:46:55 PM »

Gawd, this is gonna hurt..............but I agree with Mr Cruza  :o :o    there, I said it........

Fraser clean up is another strong turn out of association clubs and members.

Be interesting if this exodus is reflected in the clean up numbers.


Despite this supposed exodus the last Corroboree  was the largest ever;-

A total of 276 registrations which translated to 620 people from roughly 20 different clubs
We ran trips for a total of over 410 vehicles over 2 days
Raised $6000 for various charities (RFDS, Cancer Council, Kenilworth 1st Responders)
Ran a Monster raffle with $17,000 in donated prizes

This years Fraser cleanup is also looking to be the biggest on record.

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