Transport compliance - Inskip Pint

[#jonesy]

I thought it was based on the truck gvm. If it registered as 4495t then a car license is ok. If you have a truck license it still doesn't allow you to carry more.

As said already it is on GVM a max of 4.5t. Which is the maximum it is allowed to weigh, and not what it weighs at the time. So an empty truck weighing 4.4t CANNOT be driven on a car licence if it's GVM is 6t


Trailer limits is a whole other story and relates to the actual weight of the trailer

[BBull]

Ahhh. Good old GVM talk. Nearly as good as rated recovery point discussions.

[gronk]

So an empty truck weighing 4.4t CANNOT be driven on a car licence if it's GVM is 6t

You're right, BUT, if a truck has a plate with 4.4T GVM, ( just like the truck I drive ) how do you know it's under 4.4T when fully loaded ? Without knowing the tare, how do you keep under the GVM ?

[gordo350]

The tare is on the plate too. Subtract that from the gvm. Thats your payload max

[gronk]

The tare is on the plate too. Subtract that from the gvm. Thats your payload max

Had a look today, couldn't see a tare on the plate ! I'll have another look tomorrow !
Looking a few sites, and truck tare seems to be bare chassis, so to arrive at GVM, you add the body ( be it pantech, tray, tipper etc ) plus the load ( including passengers of course ), so not as easy as it seems ?

[gordo350]

It used to be on the rego sticker but soms of us dont get them anymore.  Will definitely be on the rego papers as it would've had to of had a weigh bridge ticket  when presented for inspection

[Paddler Ed]

Had a look today, couldn't see a tare on the plate ! I'll have another look tomorrow !
Looking a few sites, and truck tare seems to be bare chassis, so to arrive at GVM, you add the body ( be it pantech, tray, tipper etc ) plus the load ( including passengers of course ), so not as easy as it seems ?

If it's NSW rego, put the rego into the NSW Rego checker and you'll get the Tare weight and the GVM - for my Land Cruiser it's recorded as 1960kg and 3040kg respectively, whilst my 4Runner is 1,720 kg and 2,520 kg... however, I think it's nearer 2000kg unladen, but that does include me (100kg) and some metal work and slightly bigger wheels and tyres (31x10.5R15 vs 205R16).

[gronk]

It used to be on the rego sticker but soms of us dont get them anymore.  Will definitely be on the rego papers as it would've had to of had a weigh bridge ticket  when presented for inspection

Ha, might be a bit suss asking the boss for a look at the rego papers !!

Small trucks under 4.5T GVM  don't need a weigh bridge ticket for rego.

[Paddler Ed]

Ha, might be a bit suss asking the boss for a look at the rego papers !!

Small trucks under 4.5T GVM  don't need a weigh bridge ticket for rego.

They do for first registrations or blue slip though... just like a tray back ute does.

[gordo350]

If you are driving a truck for a living then it's your responsibility to know the weights.  If you are overloaded you  will get the fine. Go to a weigh bridge and find out

[r0bl]

I guess these will start to become a essential accessory ..

http://intertradeholdings.com.au/towsafe-caravan-and-vehicle-weight-control-platform-scales.html

[Bird]

If you are driving a truck for a living then it's your responsibility to know the weights.  If you are overloaded you  will get the fine. Go to a weigh bridge and find out

AGREE! Even the blokes at the weighbridge can tell you or help you with limits.

Also up to you to know your heights... When I worked at Chemtrans, the boss used to scream that I was stalling in the yard cause I dug out my tape measure to measure height and length of the unit for that day.
It wasn't so bad once you had 'your own' prime mover, but when you were chopping and changing it was always different. Specially when doing hazmat.
Then it was straight to the weighbridge at the front gate for all weights.

Then I was happy to leave the yard - total time "stalling" 20 minutes.

[Johnnos3003]

I guess these will start to become a essential accessory ..

http://intertradeholdings.com.au/towsafe-caravan-and-vehicle-weight-control-platform-scales.html

they are cheap, lot cheaper than I would have thought

[Fizzie]

I guess these will start to become a essential accessory ..

http://intertradeholdings.com.au/towsafe-caravan-and-vehicle-weight-control-platform-scales.html

But wouldn't you need 2 of them (or = the number of tyres) at once?

[r0bl]

But wouldn't you need 2 of them (or = the number of tyres) at once?

You just do each wheel then add it up.  For vans/trailers each wheel and towball weight, usually via jockey wheel.  And I noticed you can get a "REICH Caravan Weight Control" scale for around $300.. but it does have mixed reviews on Amazon..

- Rob

[Bird]

they are cheap, lot cheaper than I would have thought

still 470 for something you'll use once and chuck in cobweb corner in the shed is a waste of cabbage.

[gronk]

If you are driving a truck for a living then it's your responsibility to know the weights.  If you are overloaded you  will get the fine. Go to a weigh bridge and find out

In my case, I cart around small loads......biggest load would be approx 1 ton.

[Brij]

You're right, BUT, if a truck has a plate with 4.4T GVM, ( just like the truck I drive ) how do you know it's under 4.4T when fully loaded ? Without knowing the tare, how do you keep under the GVM ?

Same way you keep your 200 and camper under their respective mass limits.

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

Now we don't have rego stickers in Vic. and NO-one puts the tare weight on the outside anymore.
You have 'buckleys of knowing what the Tare is unless your holding the Rego papers.
Unless you have it sitting on a weighbridge empty.

[BBull]

Same way you keep your 200 and camper under their respective mass limits.

Keeping a 200 and camper under. What do you mean?
Is there a way of doing this

[MadMarv]

Ha, might be a bit suss asking the boss for a look at the rego papers !!

Small trucks under 4.5T GVM  don't need a weigh bridge ticket for rego.

Rego papers arnt always right ..... vic roads says for a heavy ridgid truck max weight for a leaf spring suspension is 22.5 ton but on the rego sticker it states max vehicle weight 28 ton .... truck is a i guess a 15 year old scania heavy ridged .... you have to actually know what your state says is legal

Its easy to get weights checked ..... look up public weighbridges .... also Tips weigh trucks in so you could also use one off those places too

[gronk]

Same way you keep your 200 and camper under their respective mass limits.

I don't......care that is !!    Have a bullbar and winch, carry almost nothing and towball weight is 140kg..

It's something I don't really think about !! 

[GGV8Cruza]

Keeping a 200 and camper under. What do you mean?
Is there a way of doing this

Yes there is, clever planning and a GVM upgrade. Although at a guess 95% of owners do not have any idea of the weight of there set up or decide to let it just fade away and not worry

GG

[Charlie Brown]

Been several recent accidents involving caravan rollovers north of Brisbane.  Most, maybe all, have been 200 series LCs.  Maybe overloaded tugs are to blame?

[BBull]

Yes there is, clever planning and a GVM upgrade. Although at a guess 95% of owners do not have any idea of the weight of there set up or decide to let it just fade away and not worry

GG

What is this GVM upgrade you speak about?