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Towing a kk without a brake controller
« on: May 18, 2017, 07:33:06 PM »
Hi guys, finally purchased a 2015 kk platinum, however its located in Wollongong and im in melbourne. My problem is i don't have a brake controller as im in the process of selling my MN triton and picking up a 200 series. Unfortunately the order of acquisitions have gone to plan.
Is there any real big issue of towing it back to Melbourne  carefully before i get the landcruiser and brake controller?

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 07:36:48 PM »
If you have an accident or incident and are over the vehicle's approved towing capacity without trailer braking, you could void your insurance. Something to bear in mind
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 07:42:35 PM »
Illegal to tow the KK without brakes..Has it got override brakes? Many do.  Otherwise wait until you get the set up in the 200. Borrow a mates car.

You know about Murphy,s Law dont you? 

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 07:46:44 PM »
That's what i was thinking, unfortunately the trailer was too good to pass up (imo) and the cruiser another 2 months away. Its totally over 750kg so as suggested, borrowing a mates car maybe best option.

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 07:48:34 PM »
You are probably pretty much towing close to a tonne and a half of trailer, it is doable, but you wouldn't want to have to stop in a hurry or get caught doing it if something goes wrong.
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 07:55:35 PM »
Just get a brake controller installed in the triton and rip it out when you get back.

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 07:59:57 PM »
Buy this kit for $105.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111073104798

Or the controller you want for the cruiser.

Temp install on the Triton. Double sided tape, zip ties, don't cut wiring to length, etc.

Remove when done and fit the whole shebang to the new car.

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 08:03:15 PM »
If you had the cruiser I wouldn't hesitate towing without brakes. In the triton I would be worried.
Either dummy the brake controller into the triton and rip it out when you get home. Or buy a override hitch to fit to the KK and you should be able to put a joiner in the brake line off the back of the hydraulic pack and a quick brake bleed and you are away. Wouldn't cost to much for a standard ball override hitch and brake fluid resivor with some brake hose and a joiner.
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 08:04:24 PM »
I've towed our loaded kk with our amarok on the blacktop back down from the vic high country with my brake controller not working and it was no big drama however don't think I would have had any insurance should anything have had happened.  If ya just take ya time and consciously think about when you need to brake ya should be fine.


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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 08:20:53 PM »
I was looking at having to tow a car trailer with car recently and don't have a brake controller. There was a company up here who could rent me one.......I didn't end up buying the car so didn't look into it any further but maybe hiring a portable one from somewhere could be an option. Alternatively hire a vehicle with a controller to to the trip
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 08:27:38 PM »
Quote from: kylarama on May 18, 2017, 07:59:57 PM
Buy this kit for $105.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111073104798

Or the controller you want for the cruiser.

Temp install on the Triton. Double sided tape, zip ties, don't cut wiring to length, etc.

Remove when done and fit the whole shebang to the new car.

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Hey melba,

Whereabouts in Melbourne are you?
I have a spare PrimusIQ and loom that you're welcome to use....

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 08:35:24 PM »
Some or all of the Platinums had electric over hydraulic brake units that are only compatible with some controllers. Best to check with the seller 1st.
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 08:38:31 PM »
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2017, 09:01:01 PM »
I know a guy with a truck - big truck .
Runs Syd - Melb taking caravans up and back . Pm me if you want his details .

I tow a lot and wouldn't dream of towing KK without brakes - only takes one goose and ya cooked - also the Hume is inhabited by govt employees only to happy to take your money .

Ps one of my colleagues received a $660.00 fine for ' tyres not correct rating ' last week .

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2017, 09:08:10 PM »
Thanks eveyone for your response such great feedback with varying viable options. Totally agree i must in one way or another get a brake controller fitted.
Geoffa im based in rowville, is that controller a plug and play type controller?

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2017, 09:13:57 PM »
Quote from: melba on May 18, 2017, 09:08:10 PM
Geoffa im based in rowville......

I'm in Werribee, but work in the CBD.

Quote from: melba on May 18, 2017, 09:08:10 PM
......is that controller a plug and play type controller?

Is there such a beast?
The one I have would need to be wired in, if only temporarily....

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2017, 09:27:10 PM »


Quote from: melba on May 18, 2017, 09:08:10 PM
is that controller a plug and play type controller?


Hayman Reese do a 'plug n play' wiring harness for their rebadged Tekonsha controllers.  At $100+ they cost more than the Primus IQ controller.



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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2017, 09:35:26 PM »
Quote from: gronk on May 18, 2017, 08:35:24 PM
Some or all of the Platinums had electric over hydraulic brake units that are only compatible with some controllers. Best to check with the seller 1st.

Good advice gronk....
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2017, 09:42:22 PM »
I'll call kimberley tomorrow and find out and organise hopefully my mechanic on monday servicing my car if he can do a temp install as well. Thanks geoffa for your generosity. I mite just get the controller now for the cruiser and swap it later. As we leave next friday to pick it up.

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2017, 09:52:30 PM »
No probs. Good luck with it.
Enjoy the new toys... :cup: :cup:

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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2017, 12:10:23 AM »
My brake controller died on the way back from Exmouth to Perth (approx 1200km). Not sure where/when it died, I only noticed maybe 400km from home. As above, if I needed to emergency brake it would have taken longer to stop but still pulled up OK even in city traffic. I just left a lot of room to the car in front. Camper weighs approx 1.5T.
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2017, 12:23:41 AM »
Kimberley use Hydrastar HBA Electric/hydraulic actuators, which can be a little fussy about the controller hooked up to them.
See this link from the aussie Hydrastar distributors before buying a controller:
http://www.hydrastar.com.au/brake-controllers/hydrastar-compatibility/
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2017, 11:47:31 AM »
A bit of a problem. I'd do it for a short trip across town, or if my controller failed but not a long planned trip. I haven't got a controlller in my ute yet and should borrow the Mrs' car to tow. She's not keen on using the ute!

Surely there is a market for a wireless controller. Something you could connect inline with the trailer plug, on the trailer, and use a wireless controller in the cab. would mean you could buy one controller for the trailer and switch it between tugs in a few seconds.
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2017, 12:03:07 PM »
With the current weather forecast for eastcoast, I'd want all the brakes I could get
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Re: Towing a kk without a brake controller
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2017, 12:03:31 PM »
You might search around for quotes on having it delivered and compare that with what it will cost you to fetch it-
http://automover.com.au/
http://www.opsl.com.au/interstate-transport-services/trailer/
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