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What price to put my cruiser at?
« on: March 08, 2017, 04:11:05 AM »
Yes I have been on a crazy posting thing lately but that's actually because this is the one forum you actually get decent advice from.

We are about to put our 2002 GXV Turbo Diesel Landcruiser on the market. I have been checking carsales and various other sites to get an idea how much we should ask. They appear to be going from anything from 25k to 33k. They made the GXV instead of the Saraha that year so we have the leather seats, cooler centre console and sunroof and I am also lead to believe it was the last year they used the 80's engine.

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Done 430K and just for interest timing belt changed at 330k. Power steering pump replaced and Heavy duty shocks in the last 12 months.

Its got your normal wear and tear bumps and scratches but she has never let us down.

What would you reasonably put it on the market for?
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 05:08:04 AM »
$25k tops IMO. Accessories dont count for much. 15yr old with high kms - sure its a cruiser, but at $35k you can get into a 200 series (i have a dec 07 sahara).
As a reference, 4.5yrs ago my FIL traded in an 02 GXL with aftermarket turbo, was immaculate with zero off road and low kms (160k from memory) and he got $25k then. Not exactly the same, but personally i think $25k is optimistic. But good luck, no harm in listing then see how much interest there is.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2017, 05:15:41 AM »
$25k tops IMO. Accessories dont count for much. 15yr old with high kms - sure its a cruiser, but at $35k you can get into a 200 series (i have a dec 07 sahara).
As a reference, 4.5yrs ago my FIL traded in an 02 GXL with aftermarket turbo, was immaculate with zero off road and low kms (160k from memory) and he got $25k then. Not exactly the same, but personally i think $25k is optimistic. But good luck, no harm in listing then see how much interest there is.

I would be happy with 25. I know that model sells a little higher because of the engine it has but I think 25 is fair
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2017, 05:19:05 AM »
I have been doing a lot of research on Landcruiser prices over the last two weeks.  Some of the adds that have 100s Cruzas with the 1HDTFTE motor have been on the Internet for a while. You kms are pretty high but I reckon I would list your price in the low $30s and hopefully sell in the high 20s.

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2017, 05:34:23 AM »
I have been doing a lot of research on Landcruiser prices over the last two weeks.  Some of the adds that have 100s Cruzas with the 1HDTFTE motor have been on the Internet for a while. You kms are pretty high but I reckon I would list your price in the low $30s and hopefully sell in the high 20s.

I think some of them are over priced for what they are. I know they are a great engine but they are still 15 years old.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 05:42:38 AM »
I guess the other question is: what else is for sale currently in that price range? $25k might be too low if all that is for sale is utes and mid size wagons. There certainly isnt any new 4wd for $25k are there? At least none that are heavy duty.

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2017, 06:13:52 AM »
I reckon with those klms you won't sell it in a hurry at 30 something, but it should sell at mid 20's fairly easily. They aren't huge klms for that engine by any means, price depends how quick you want to sell it. If it was me looking I'd want klms starting with a 2 or very low 3's for any vehicle at 30 something K
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2017, 06:17:15 AM »
I reckon with those klms you won't sell it in a hurry at 30 something, but it should sell at mid 20's fairly easily. They aren't huge klms for that engine by any means, price depends how quick you want to sell it. If it was me looking I'd want klms starting with a 2 or very low 3's for any vehicle at 30 something K


Not in a huge rush would like it gone with in a couple of months. New car arriving in a couple of weeks and we are just using the sale of the cruiser to payoff the camper and get a few drifter goodies for the BT so middle will cover with change.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2017, 07:11:21 AM »

 As good as they are, yours is an old vehicle with a lot of kms on the clock. Take the first reasonable offer that comes along, get it out of your life and move on. At the end of the day it's only worth what someone is willing to pay and you will get sick of looking at it in the driveway while waiting for that extra couple of thousand.

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2017, 07:23:37 AM »
As good as they are, yours is an old vehicle with a lot of kms on the clock. Take the first reasonable offer that comes along, get it out of your life and move on. At the end of the day it's only worth what someone is willing to pay and you will get sick of looking at it in the driveway while waiting for that extra couple of thousand.

Didn't really answer the question, and of course I would take a reasonable offer what I want to gauge is what is reasonable. Not going to give it away just to get it out of my life!!!! I have already moved on new car on its way.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2017, 07:43:09 AM »
Just out of interest, were you offered a price as a trade in, if so add about 2 grand and that is what the car yards would sell it for.

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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2017, 07:46:25 AM »
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They aren't huge klms for that engine by any means,
but that many will put many players off. People on most car sites can search by Klms these days... 430 would be at the end of the scale. If theres others out there for 25-30k with 1/2 the klms...
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2017, 07:55:44 AM »
but that many will put many players off. People on most car sites can search by Klms these days... 430 would be at the end of the scale. If theres others out there for 25-30k with 1/2 the klms...

Seen a few in the 30K's with over 400km on the clock, but I think that is excessive. I suppose those who know this engine know that that kind of Ks is not a big thing.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2017, 08:13:49 AM »
If you detail it within an inch of its life, display a comprehensive service record and maybe sell it with an independent inspection document you will maybe give yourself the best chance possible. I bought my 200 series second hand and had a prepurchase inspection (including compression test) done by a big Toyota dealer. It might be good reassurance for an coming owner for a high mileage vehicle.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2017, 08:28:11 AM »
If you detail it within an inch of its life, display a comprehensive service record and maybe sell it with an independent inspection document you will maybe give yourself the best chance possible. I bought my 200 series second hand and had a prepurchase inspection (including compression test) done by a big Toyota dealer. It might be good reassurance for an coming owner for a high mileage vehicle.

as previously mentioned I am not concerned about getting top dollar, luckily we don't have anything riding on the sale just some wants.

I just really looking for a suggestions regarding a price point. What ever you put people will knock it down anyway.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2017, 08:43:55 AM »
Giving it a full detail will add more to the value than what it cost to do it, been there done it twice so far ;)...third time will be end of this year.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2017, 08:55:00 AM »
Giving it a full detail will add more to the value than what it cost to do it, been there done it twice so far ;)...third time will be end of this year.
Add 2/3 grand more than what your bottom dollar is with ONO and go from there.

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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2017, 08:57:50 AM »
$500 and I can pick it up on Saturday?



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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2017, 09:12:46 AM »
$500 and I can pick it up on Saturday?



Welcome to selling a car privately nowadays...

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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2017, 09:53:47 AM »
One observation regarding the kms - there's way more to a vehicle than simply the engine, to state the obvious.  At those kms there are many other parts that may or may not be nearing the end of their life, and the issue then is not just $ but reliability. Personally i wouldnt buy a car with those k's at tgat price. I know its toyota, but they are not infallible. Even if you have looked after it impecably, potential buyers wont know this. I really think the mileage will be the limiting factor even at $25k. And age. Not trying to have a go, but i would have traded it myself. Hope it goes well, as said above i would take the 1st reasonable offer -anything above $20k maybe.

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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2017, 10:39:21 AM »
One observation regarding the kms - there's way more to a vehicle than simply the engine, to state the obvious.  At those kms there are many other parts that may or may not be nearing the end of their life, and the issue then is not just $ but reliability. Personally i wouldnt buy a car with those k's at tgat price. I know its toyota, but they are not infallible. Even if you have looked after it impecably, potential buyers wont know this. I really think the mileage will be the limiting factor even at $25k. And age. Not trying to have a go, but i would have traded it myself. Hope it goes well, as said above i would take the 1st reasonable offer -anything above $20k maybe.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2017, 10:46:13 AM »
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There certainly isnt any new 4wd for $25k are there? At least none that are heavy duty.

New ones don't have 430k kms on them either, which is why they cost more than $25k.  ???
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2017, 11:44:27 AM »
but that many will put many players off. People on most car sites can search by Klms these days... 430 would be at the end of the scale. If theres others out there for 25-30k with 1/2 the klms...
which is why I mentioned that if I was looking to buy one, I would want a $30K vehicle to have less klms on it then starting with a 4, something in the 200 - 300 range.

Just out of interest, were you offered a price as a trade in, if so add about 2 grand and that is what the car yards would sell it for.
i was offered between 7 - 9 thousand trade in on my last 1HZ Cruiser, sold it privately unregistered for $14K and could have gotten much closer to $20K if I wanted to throw several thousand at it for a roadworthy to sell registered. He'll be ripping himself off if all he adds is a few thousand on top of trade in offers...usually they are closer to half retail value.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2017, 11:59:05 AM »
which is why I mentioned that if I was looking to buy one, I would want a $30K vehicle to have less klms on it then starting with a 4, something in the 200 - 300 range.
i was offered between 7 - 9 thousand trade in on my last 1HZ Cruiser, sold it privately unregistered for $14K and could have gotten much closer to $20K if I wanted to throw several thousand at it for a roadworthy to sell registered. He'll be ripping himself off if all he adds is a few thousand on top of trade in offers...usually they are closer to half retail value.

No we didn't offer it for trade in. Couple of reasons one they give you less then you can see it for (previous Camry offered 4.5k trade in sold it for 8k) plus you usually get a better deal on the new one with out trade in.
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Re: What price to put my cruiser at?
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2017, 12:02:26 PM »

Redbook Values for the GXV 2002

Valuation Prices

*Private Price Guide $25,500 - $29,800
*Trade In Price Guide $18,500 - $22,800
*Average Km 225,000 - 375,000
*Price When New $87,094*
Price Guide (EGC
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