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Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« on: January 31, 2017, 07:10:59 PM »

What a load of bulls#!t .


Starting tomorrow (the 1st of Feb), you won’t be able to smoke in Queensland National Parks within 10 metres of in-use camp sites or public facilities like picnic tables, barbecues, shelters, toilet blocks, visitor information centres, jetties or boat ramps.
For more information about the new smoking laws you can visit the Queensland Health website (www.health.qld.gov.au/public-health/topics/atod/tobacco-laws).


https://www.facebook.com/qldnationalparks/photos/a.422645281196564.1073741828.409751825819243/1065331063594646/?type=3&comment_id=1065396836921402&notif_t=like&notif_id=1485853433246494



They ( Nat park officers ) do not police the camping permit / camp site anywhere near enough . Always people camping without having a permit , so I can't see how they can police this crap.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 07:19:50 PM »
Are you a Smoker Duggie?
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 07:20:40 PM »
I better make sure no one comes too close to my campfire. I might have to have some special tape to stop people coming within 10 metres of it.

Only in QLD  ;D

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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 07:23:56 PM »
I think there will be certain places where they will be actve with the rule like round Springbrook, or Dandibah, but the more remote spots forget it I think
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 07:26:28 PM »
Quote from: Hairs on January 31, 2017, 07:19:50 PM
Are you a Smoker Duggie?

Yes I am .


But my argument is that the park rangers do not police the camp permit rule up through the northern part of Queensland  , how the bloody hell are they going to police this new ruling .


BTW , I am quite happy to put my camp chair 10.5 metres away form my camp site so that I could indulge in a durrie.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2017, 07:33:09 PM »
NO smoking in NSW nat parks !! That means nearly everywhere !!

From 1 May 2016 the smoking ban applies to all parks, with some exceptions.

It applies to picnic areas, campgrounds, accommodations, beaches, lookouts, walking tracks, and on national park roads. The ban doesn't apply to some commercial lease or licence areas, or to private residences located within a park.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 07:37:03 PM »
Quote from: duggie on January 31, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
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BTW , I am quite happy to put my camp chair 10.5 metres away form my camp site so that I could indulge in a durrie.

....and I'll sit back there with ya duggie.

I've never been a smoker, but it's a silly law....
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 07:49:55 PM »
I don't mind a durrie with an ice cold Great Northern after a nice BBQ dinner around the camp fire.

I don't think I will change, I might be a little bit naughty and rebellious and still do it anyway......



What does really sh1t me though, the entire anti smoking thing. When was the last time some one was king hit because he had one to many Winnie Blues at the pub?

Or loosing control of a vehicle, killing and innocent family on his way home from a party at 3am, because he had a durrie before he jumped in the car........

It is socially acceptable to be a piss head and make an arse of yourself, but you are labeled a complete  ar5e hole if you have  a smoke in a park by yourself with your morning coffee reading the paper.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 07:58:12 PM »
Quote from: duggie on January 31, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
Yes I am .
I don't have a problem with that.
You are right about how, are they going to police it?
They do struggle to police many other regs.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2017, 08:02:40 PM »
Being an x smoker....this law is b/chit and will never be enforced.......i say do what you normally do to the smokers..." live and let live ".....most smokers are reasonable and polite and thinking people.....  just my 2 bobs worth...

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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2017, 08:49:30 PM »
Qld health are the only people who can issue a infringement for smoking, that's why no one every seems to be fined. :police:
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 06:21:37 AM »
I am a smoker. I was happy with the decision to ban smoking from inside of pubs, clubs, restaurants, shopping centres etc.

Some of these decisions are getting ridiculous why not ban smoking altogether in Austalia.  Taxes on tobacco is nearly 10billion dollars a year. That is a lot of extra tax for non smokers to make up for in the budget.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 06:47:16 AM »
Hi All, About fire trucking time, and alcohol should be next, sick of dunken smoking ice holes leaving the cans and bottles and butts everywhere in every park I have visited, and when I go to put up a camp site we have to clean up that rubbish first, flaming disgracefull.  Craig
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 07:02:05 AM »
Doesn't seem anything more than a warm and fuzzy law to make it appear they are doing something...

They will police the Visitors Centers again to make it appear they are doing something.. but the rest pfft.

If I was a ranger I'd ask them where I would find the time to drive around 5000klm of land to police 1 bloke on the other side of the park sucking off his cancer stick.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 07:33:56 AM »
Ex smoker so I think we are the worst for complaining about smokers, sorry.
Yes, there is no way the poor Nat Parks people will be able to enforce the laws.  The number of them has been reduced and they do not have the time and resources to manage camping now.   But I totally agree with the bans.  There are so many beautiful camping spots that have disgusting cigarette butts on the ground.  Larger bits of rubbish at least you can pick it up, as we and others do, and dispose of, but buggered if I am going to get down and pick up cig butts.
I have found that the vast majority of travellers that smoke are very courteous and mindful of non smokers.  It is just that few and then there are the locals that, as usual, ruin it for all.
I wish the authorities would do something about shopping centres and where smokers congregate just outside the entrance and within the laws. You then have to navigate through this group and the cloud of smoke.  Disgusting.   
But I do feel sorry for smokers and I believe it is still legal to smoke cigarettes. But it is your choice and there is certainly a lot more information about the effects of smoking now compared to years ago.    Kevin
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2017, 07:57:09 AM »

I'm a smoker. Those that know me will attest that there will be absolutely no evidence that I was smoking. Not 1 single butt will adorn the area that I camp. I have numerous receptacles in which said butts are relinquished including one attached to my camp chair.

If some pimply unedumacated clown in a candyass ranger suit comes to tell me to remove myself from a campground that I PAID for (eg. Bribie, Morton etc) they'll cop a right edumacation on the rights of the customer (of which I am by PAYING) to adorn their over regulated and in some cases poor attempt at a camp site. Don't get me started on the campground "types" at Bribie...........either a campertrailer or tent. Nothing inbetween for vehicle based camping (RRT etc) and trying to explain to the powers that a willing to cashgrab ya that you DON'T NEED a CT site or walk 200m to a tent site that IS NO GOOD FOR A RRT.............................GGGGGRRRRRRRRRR.............
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2017, 08:50:55 AM »
Quote from: muzza01 on February 01, 2017, 06:21:37 AM
I am a smoker. I was happy with the decision to ban smoking from inside of pubs, clubs, restaurants, shopping centres etc.

Some of these decisions are getting ridiculous why not ban smoking altogether in Austalia.  Taxes on tobacco is nearly 10billion dollars a year. That is a lot of extra tax for non smokers to make up for in the budget.

Agree x1000000000
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2017, 10:10:37 AM »
Quote from: Craig Tomkinson on February 01, 2017, 06:47:16 AM
Hi All, About fire trucking time, and alcohol should be next, sick of dunken smoking ice holes leaving the cans and bottles and butts everywhere in every park I have visited, and when I go to put up a camp site we have to clean up that rubbish first, flaming disgracefull.  Craig
And to take it to the obvious conclusion, ban every other product, that the wrappers and packaging is left laying around, by the same grubs too.
That would include a lot of stuff to be banned. Sorry all you Coke drinkers, chip eaters, McDonalds Scofferes etc, etc, etc.... it's all banned. We should install some bl@@dy bollards to keep these grubs out of N.P.s I reckon.....
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2017, 11:55:45 AM »
I was just having a thoughtie about all this .


I have paid my fees to camp in xyz Nat Park.

Am I renting this site , by way of payment ?

If I am renting then under the Australia Tenancy Laws , I can't be banned from smoking .

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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2017, 12:09:39 PM »
 Great Idea, If they can not keep it clean they are not welcome, Craig
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2017, 12:46:39 PM »
Not a smoker but the missus smokes.

I think its probably more likely to be policed if someone makes a complaint from a neighbouring campsite. For example at Teewah, over Xmas, where people get packed together like Sardines.  I doubt they are going to do anything to you for smoking in your own campsite if it doesn't affect someone outside the group.   The exception to this would be where the camper is already causing trouble such as site not booked, fire bans broken, litter or non-secure food attracting dingos on Fraser.  Give them a bit of lip and watch the ticket book come out to pile on the deserved pain.

At least I could still take the family camping with this.  I can't take my family anywhere in NSW parks with their rules.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2017, 03:25:43 PM »
Quote from: muzza01 on February 01, 2017, 06:21:37 AM
I am a smoker. I was happy with the decision to ban smoking from inside of pubs, clubs, restaurants, shopping centres etc.

Some of these decisions are getting ridiculous why not ban smoking altogether in Austalia.  Taxes on tobacco is nearly 10billion dollars a year. That is a lot of extra tax for non smokers to make up for in the budget.

That's exactly why they're not banning it.
Why would you cut off a revenue stream, even if it has a close relationship to deaths and Cancers.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2017, 03:47:14 PM »
Nothing worse than copping a gob full of second hand smoke drifting into your pristine campsite full of piles of dunny paper scattered around by lazy squatters in need of a piss ;-(   Even the Rangers smoke in the parks.
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2017, 03:50:00 PM »
Quote from: Cruiser 105Tvan on February 01, 2017, 03:25:43 PM
That's exactly why they're not banning it.
Why would you cut off a revenue stream, even if it has a close relationship to deaths and Cancers.


Smoking costs the community about 3 times that tax income, so banning tobacco completely would actually save the government money.

http://www.health.gov.au/tobacco
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Re: Smoking in Queensland National Parks
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2017, 04:37:28 PM »
What happens if you have a Smokey camp fire  ??? should we sit 10.5m away from it  ??? ???
 lf Bad/Good Scott have anything to do with you wouldn't get that close to it even to chuck on another log . Dose that count Ummmmmmm ???                               :cheers:
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