Tow car / 4x4 / comfort - possible to have it all?

[Pete79]

Same with the px/px2 ranger/mazda. Apart from the grotesquely bent blue one on the net that looks like it was dropped from heaven. All of the current/new ones seem to be kicking goals in that department.

[DrewXT]

Not heard of one on our Isuzu forums as yet.

If my memory serves, it was somewhere in the Pilbara, and I think it was a mine vehicle, so all bets are off on that environment!!

The DMax was my second of two choices when I got the Rok, but I couldn't find a dealer interested in selling one... 

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[GBC]

That's an old pk mate

[RebsWA]

How much more on dual cab bent chassis?
IMO any of the brands will bend cos they are weak to start with, overrated for tow capacity (to aid sales), and the bent ones subject to more stress than ever designed for, for various reasons.
I am sure the OP has got the drift.

[ScarpsD40]

How much more on dual cab bent chassis?
IMO any of the brands will bend cos they are weak to start with, overrated for tow capacity (to aid sales), and the bent ones subject to more stress than ever designed for, for various reasons.
I am sure the OP has got the drift.

Agree

[Wortho]

The new/updated DMax MUX which should be on the floors end of Feb is going to be the vehicle to be in.

I find the 6 month servicing intervals a bit off putting so hopefully they extend this to 12 months as seems to be overkill and a cash grab. Not real happy about the DPF as a mate just had to have his replaced (VW Golf) and they wanted $5000 for OEM. I guess will have to get used to DPF as it appears all new diesel vehicles will need one from this year I understand. The rear diff lock is a big plus for me though!  Any cooling issues with the Auto when towing, is the standard Auto cooler a decent size?  I have fried a gearbox when towing before so next vehicle I buy will either be a manual or Auto with decent size cooler.
Cheers
Wortho

[Paddler Ed]

Some musings' for the OP:
1) Factory sat nav is nice... But the maps cost a fortune to update and may not include the bush trails that you need. My thought on this: Don't bother with it.
2) How many people do you need to carry? That can shape the vehicle as well.
3) Wagon or Ute? The long running question.... My preference is for a wagon, but that's what works for me. I think that utes also have a better resale value, so higher purchase costs vs the equivalent wagon (see Prado's for a. Example of this)
4) If going wagon, do you go body on frame construction or the semi-monocoque opion? This boils down to Prado etc vs Pathfinder/Pajero/Jeep (non-Wrangler)/Newer Doscoverys and some others.
5) Ludo bits: The only one I like is aircon,but otherwise leather etc are just niceties that might be bundled with less practical/useful options.

[Merts]

1) Factory sat nav is nice... But the maps cost a fortune to update and may not include the bush trails that you need. My thought on this: Don't bother with it.

Totally agree.

I went with the GLS in the Triton which didn't have factory sat nav.
I put a $200 Garmin unit on the windscreen for road navigation, and use an iPad with the Hema Navigator Pro app for offroad. Works a treat.

[Isuzumu]

I find the 6 month servicing intervals a bit off putting so hopefully they extend this to 12 months as seems to be overkill and a cash grab. Not real happy about the DPF as a mate just had to have his replaced (VW Golf) and they wanted $5000 for OEM. I guess will have to get used to DPF as it appears all new diesel vehicles will need one from this year I understand. The rear diff lock is a big plus for me though!  Any cooling issues with the Auto when towing, is the standard Auto cooler a decent size?  I have fried a gearbox when towing before so next vehicle I buy will either be a manual or Auto with decent size cooler.
Cheers
Wortho

I may be wrong about the diff lock. I have put an extra cooler on the auto as I am towing quite a bit of weight. As far as servicing goes I do my own now that It is out of warranty, but had it serviced every 10k anyway, but not by a dealer.

[Snow]

I looked at em all, and ended up with the Everest. It cost me a bit more than the others bar the Toyotas, but it ticked all the boxes the OP has mentioned.

[GUEY]

I looked at em all, and ended up with the Everest. It cost me a bit more than the others bar the Toyotas, but it ticked all the boxes the OP has mentioned.

Bar the price. Can't see anything under 45k, even second hand

[Merts]

Bar the price. Can't see anything under 45k, even second hand

When I was looking at what to get for my latest ride, I was fairly interested in the Everest, until they released it and I saw the pricing. Ford are kidding themselves.

[jr]

Everest is more than a "bit" more expensive
Top level mux $50 K, with other bonuses
Id avoid DPF, expensive to look after and have several reasons to go into limp mode

[sbv20j]

No bent chassis issue
No power issues
No diesel issues
No GVM issues
No cargo space issues

[Merts]

No bent chassis issue
No power issues
No diesel issues
No GVM issues
No cargo space issues

Yeah good.
It only misses the OP's budget by nearly 50 grand....

[sbv20j]

paid less than 50 for it 
But it does use 2-3ltrs more per 100k than my 3ltr diesel patrol did around town, on the hwy its uses less than the 3ltr did

[SEADOO]

No bent chassis issue
No power issues
No diesel issues
No GVM issues
No cargo space issues

Does the seat in the boot lay flat. We looked at one today with the intention of driving away in it. We have never sat in one before.

 We were turned off by the $80k (TI model) price tag and the rear seats not folding flat in the boot. I thought they retailed around $70k. At $80k, that is 200 Series money.

[Bird]

I thought they retailed around $70k. At $80k, that is 200 Series money.

Wouldn't pay that for either.

... bout 18mths ago one member was offered a Y62 on run out for <60k drive away....

[petrolburner]

Does the seat in the boot lay flat. We looked at one today with the intention of driving away in it. We have never sat in one before.

 We were turned off by the $80k (TI model) price tag and the rear seats not folding flat in the boot. I thought they retailed around $70k. At $80k, that is 200 Series money.

Rear seat will fold a little flatter if you pull the head rests out.

I have had my ST-L spec for three years and have not found the rear cargo space an issue at all. Actually I have not found any issues with the beast in that time.
Suggest you check out the Y62 FB page for current prices, you will get a Ti for well under 80k!
Some have reported securing a TI for mid 60's but I don't watch the price topics much and am not bang up to date on what they are selling them for this month.

As for landcruiser prices..... a GXL is somewhere around 80k and it feels very  base spec in comparison, a TI needs to be compared to the VX. A TI -L to the Sahara.

Check out my thread here and feel free to ask questions there, I don't think the Y62 has anything to do with this topic as it's not in the OP's price range.

http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=44682.0

[SEADOO]

Will do. Thanks mate.

[shanegtr]

Have a look at the Discovery 3's. Or if you're willing to stretch the budget a bit, an early model D4.

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That would be my pick to. But Im a little biased.  I think Land Rover really nailed the perfect all rounder with the D3 & D4, very comfortable on the highway and good off it too. No need to worry about suspesion lifts or heavy duty spring as the airbag suspension takes care of all that. The 2.7 diesels can run with 17" rims, but all others 19" is the smallest factory rim which is probably its biggest downfall off road. Can be squeezed down to 18's with aftermarket rims. My D3 runs 17" so no issues for me
2.7 Diesel 140kw & 440Nm
3.0 Diesel 155kw & 540Nm or 180kw & 600Nm depending on spec

[Railey]

That would be my pick to. But Im a little biased.  I think Land Rover really nailed the perfect all rounder with the D3 & D4, very comfortable on the highway and good off it too. No need to worry about suspesion lifts or heavy duty spring as the airbag suspension takes care of all that. The 2.7 diesels can run with 17" rims, but all others 19" is the smallest factory rim which is probably its biggest downfall off road. Can be squeezed down to 18's with aftermarket rims. My D3 runs 17" so no issues for me
2.7 Diesel 140kw & 440Nm
3.0 Diesel 155kw & 540Nm or 180kw & 600Nm depending on spec

I'm biased as well as I have a D2 and would have suggested that, but at $30k budget, it'd have to be a VERY special D2.

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[jmorgan1981]

That would be my pick to. But Im a little biased.  I think Land Rover really nailed the perfect all rounder with the D3 & D4, very comfortable on the highway and good off it too. No need to worry about suspesion lifts or heavy duty spring as the airbag suspension takes care of all that. The 2.7 diesels can run with 17" rims, but all others 19" is the smallest factory rim which is probably its biggest downfall off road. Can be squeezed down to 18's with aftermarket rims. My D3 runs 17" so no issues for me
2.7 Diesel 140kw & 440Nm
3.0 Diesel 155kw & 540Nm or 180kw & 600Nm depending on spec

How do you guys go for reliability with the discovery. I like the look etc but could not trust it due to the reputation.

[shanegtr]

Apart from a failed auto transmission everything else I've done to my D3 is maintenance work.

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[Railey]

I've had no issues at all save a front hub.

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