New Hilux

[listo]

Does anyone own one? I test drove a manual SR hilux dual cab & an auto lsm  dmax dual cab today and am leaning heavily toward the hilux. Empty, it made my car feel like I ride on the back of a sloth, whipping it with cotton wool for more speed...  Only thing is, I don't know what they tow like.
If anyone has one, what kind of fuel consumption do you get towing a Campertrailer and do you tow in fifth or sixth?
Thanks for you help

[cowwee]

Try an Amarok....really good car.

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[sbv20j]

Hi test drove all available utes earlier this year, the hilux didn't rate very well in my book very overpriced for what was on offer and the dash is just hideous the stereo looks like somebody got a cheap Chinese copy ipad and used blue tac to stick it to the dash
The ute that surprised me the most was the new updated BT50 (hated to old look)
My apologies probably not the answer you were looking for.
If I was looking around I would give serious consideration to the V6 Amarok

[listo]

I could put up with the dash, it didn't bother me too much. We don't have a Mazda dealer out here, but aren't they similar build to the rangers?
As for the amorok, they do have a good second handy on sale, but I did the cape this year with a few mates with my car & a mates amorok & his didn't fair so well unfortunately. Heaps of balls & cheap to run, but dear to fix frequently. I know it's only one car, but it'd be my luck that I'd buy that one

[sbv20j]

Hi listo yes very simular to the Ranger but for some bazar reason the kids felt the BT50 was a lot more comfortable the BT also had a better ride with no load

 

[sbv20j]

In the end it truly is a very personal choice they are a large investment and you have to be happy it fulfils your needs I am not anti hilux by any means had 3 of them in the past as work vehicles

All the best with your decision

[paull]

I think 4x4 Australia magazine have just a ute comparison, comparing all the major utes for empty ride, ride when loaded and how they tow. I saw the comparison test video on youtube the other day. From memory the Hilux got good reviews, as did the Ranger, kind of as you'd expect, but there were some others that had lots of good comments as well. The video didn't have their final conclusions though. You need to buy the magazine for that. May be worth a look.

[Gazza00]

Duelling Dual-Cabs: Ranger Vs Amarok Vs HiLux

Haven't bothered to read it myself,  so no comment or interest really.

http://patcallinanmediapty.patcallinanmedia.com.au/index.php?action=social&chash=48aedb8880cab8c45637abc7493ecddd.355

[GBC]

We just got 2 new sr autos at work. Haven't towed with them yet but they seem honest enough. I don't fit in them like a do in my ranger - smaller seat, smaller car, much less responsive motor. Typical boring Toyota so they'll probably be a good thing in the long run.

[Joff]

We just got 2 new sr autos at work. Haven't towed with them yet but they seem honest enough. I don't fit in them like a do in my ranger - smaller seat, smaller car, much less responsive motor. Typical boring Toyota so they'll probably be a good thing in the long run.

Less responsive than a Ranger?? how could that be? mine must use an egg timer to decide how long to wait after my foot goes down. I can't believe anything could be less responsive 

[shanegtr]

If anyone has one, what kind of fuel consumption do you get towing a Campertrailer and do you tow in fifth or sixth?

I ran around in one of the new ones for about a week a couple of months ago. Didnt do any towing with it but I reckon you wont have any other option but towing in 5th with the auto. Out on the highway with no trailer it spent nearly as much time in 5th as it did in 6th, its very, very quick to change down and I think it could hold 6th a hell of a lot longer. Cant even select 6th and have it hold when in manual mode as it still changes itself down to 5th at the slightest bit of throttle increase. I was averaging on the trip computer around 11L/100 unloaded sitting at 110km/h

I found the ride in the hilux to be terrible in comparison to our work ranger, however the road noise levels on the highway are quiet good (better than a brand new Kluger I drove the week before the hilux). And I agree the dash is terrible, they could have at least made the effort to make the touch screen look like it belonged there.
As a whole I think the hilux has improved over the previous model, but comparing between it and the ranger - I'd take the ranger

[Bird]

4x4 Australia magazine have just a ute comparison,

that's where that argument falls flat.

Yet to read a magazine give a 100% honest real world test "this thing is useless doing xyz"-
Well haven't read one in 30yrs where it says this thing is a heap of Shit when that's what they should say
Advertising $$$ is too valuable to lose these days.

[GBC]

Less responsive than a Ranger?? how could that be? mine must use an egg timer to decide how long to wait after my foot goes down. I can't believe anything could be less responsive 

Just spent the morning driving one again. Typical Toyota 4 cyl -high revving and won't let you put torque through the box so it ends up driving like a corolla - nothing going on below 2000 rpm and a couple of gear changes. I agree the Ford has the electronic throttle delay which is annoying, but in traffic if you want to go you just put your foot down and it goes. The hilux changes back a couple of gears, gets out of eco mode, spins up to about 1800 and things start to happen - and they do happen - just eventually. Not holding a gear drove me nuts with my last hilux. I can't see it towing anything like a ranger.
I can't get comfortable with my right leg catching between the steering wheel and the door, and the whole drivers cockpit being a lot smaller than the ranger - it's about the size of my last RC Colorado which wasn't great on size either. I'm not a small guy so I rate the ability to fit pretty highly.
The steering is also strange as hell after the ranger but I think that might be a subjective thing. The whole thing feels lighter and bouncier on the road than a ranger - probably because it is. This ute is also empty and on stock suspension where the ranger is on ARB all round and carries 300+ KG 'empty'.
All up it's not a bad ute at all, has a great reverse camera, good tailgate latches, stupid sports shift auto gate, good storage for crap and a cruise control.
Not enough to not buy one, not enough to want one over what I drive now. I'll probably end up with one in a couple of years when mine is due for replacement at this rate - commercial decisions and having fights with nearly every other local dealer over various fleet issues - Toyota included - just they have come back into favour recently.

[Joff]

that's where that argument falls flat.

Yet to read a magazine give a 100% honest real world test "this thing is useless doing xyz"-
Well haven't read one in 30yrs where it says this thing is a heap of Shit when that's what they should say
Advertising $$$ is too valuable to lose these days.

This is a cheap and easy opinion to have but the reality, with 4x4 at least, is quite the opposite. Most of the guys that do the testing are not employed by 4x4 and are in no way compelled to soften their judgement on vehicles. In fact i would go so far as to say that the integrity of the individuals on the 4x4 test crew would preclude them from participating if they thought their opinions would need to be flavoured by advertisers demands

[SambOz]

No low range would not be attractive for my use -

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/videos/2016/volkswagen/amarok/volkswagen-amarok-v6-video-review-104759?tracking=dsa&gclid=CIDJ1O68gdECFUYFKgodt_cA_A

[kizza1]

There is a software update for the gearboxes that only recently came out. Apparently it makes it shift more solidly rather than flaring. And holds gears longer.

Toyota Bulletin TNF 67/16 released 4/10/16. Auto firmware update

As for power. Any of the new uses go well when you put a hks fcon on it and tune it for optimum afr's not emissions.

[GBC]

There is a software update for the gearboxes that only recently came out. Apparently it makes it shift more solidly rather than flaring. And holds gears longer.

Toyota Bulletin TNF 67/16 released 4/10/16. Auto firmware update

As for power. Any of the new uses go well when you put a hks fcon on it and tune it for optimum afr's not emissions.

Our two are only 2 weeks old - time will tell if they already have it.

The Amarok is a beautiful and expensive car - not even on the same planet as the base/medium spec twin cabs we buy and not something I'll ever have to worry about buying. I drive twin cabs because I have to, not because I like them. After 6 years they only just make it into the bin. I can hear the mobile mechanic trying to get the rear drums off the ranger as I type this.

[Isuzumu]

The updated Isuzu D.Max should be here next month, they are keeping the 3.0 litre motor, as it has been proven to be the most reliable motor in it's class. Not sure what gear boxes they will have but lots of up grades on the current model which we have and at 4 years and 120K has not missed a beat. When touring towing the van we are at GCM 5950 Kg and have averaged 16LP100, done the GRR twice and Cape York plus 1.5 trips around Aus

[shanegtr]

caradvice done a fairly big ute comparison a while ago. Not a bad read:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/388419/ute-comparison-ford-ranger-v-holden-colorado-v-isuzu-d-max-v-mazda-bt-50-v-mitsubishi-triton-v-nissan-navara-v-toyota-hilux-v-volkswagen-amarok-2/

[listo]

Thanks for the replies everyone.
At one stage it was a toss up between Isuzu & Toyota as for my preferences, there aren't really any other choices. This wasn't a bother for me as I'm a Toyota man anyway. Isuzu caught my eye due to the simplicity of the vehicle & the reliably, same reason I like Toyota, but cheaper.
After driving, the Toyota won out.
I don't really read into reviews as they all do a bit of a course for the day to determine how amazing they are. I read one that the triton won. That'll do me for reviews.
From info received today from a few lads in town, fuel consumption is quite good, even when towing.
Thanks again guys

[scblack]

No low range would not be attractive for my use -

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/videos/2016/volkswagen/amarok/volkswagen-amarok-v6-video-review-104759?tracking=dsa&gclid=CIDJ1O68gdECFUYFKgodt_cA_A

Manual Amarok models DO have low range. There goes that argument.

Auto is an 8speed, with a very, very low first gear which is equivalent to 2nd gear low range on a Ranger. With the tiptronic mode you can choose and hold first, which should comfortably do any off road obstacle, especially when you consider the power of the V6 engine.

Combining those with an excellently calibrated off-road mode and rear diff lock I think you'll find it hard to find anywhere it cant get to.

[loanrangie]

Amarok auto is ok if you like stopping every 15mins to let it cool down when offroading ,  went ok other wise.
 Went out Saturady night into Narbethong and Toolangi with 11 vehicles, the Rok's did ok apart from the auto ans having to try a few different lines to get up the steep rocky tracks we were on, surprise vehicle was stock D4 on AT's that walked up everything with ease.

[scblack]

Amarok auto is ok if you like stopping every 15mins to let it cool down when offroading ,  went ok other wise.
 Went out Saturady night into Narbethong and Toolangi with 11 vehicles, the Rok's did ok apart from the auto ans having to try a few different lines to get up the steep rocky tracks we were on, surprise vehicle was stock D4 on AT's that walked up everything with ease.

I've only had mine a couple of weeks. I've not really been off-road yet more than fire-trails with it.

Is the cooling issue you saw, the tranny, or engine? Having trawled plenty of websites and talked to many owners, dealers etc I've not come across this as an issue elsewhere. Can you give me some more info?

[cowwee]

I've only had mine a couple of weeks. I've not really been off-road yet more than fire-trails with it.

Is the cooling issue you saw, the tranny, or engine? Having trawled plenty of websites and talked to many owners, dealers etc I've not come across this as an issue elsewhere. Can you give me some more info?

My auto amarok doesn't have this problem either.
I've done everything that a 4inch lifted 80 series on 35" tyres does. Mine has BFG Ko2 tyres only added.
the only thing I find is rock steps you it tends to run a bit too fast....need to brake a lot.

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[AlanB]

Google Hilux moose test and see how the Hilux preforms when you need to swerve for the Roos.