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Offline Champin

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Am I a heartless bugger?
« on: July 21, 2016, 06:34:23 PM »
Very recently a couple of friends were involved in a motor vehicle accident where an on coming car doing in excess of 140km/h jumped the medium strip and hit their car. This was in a 60km/h zone. My friend the driver, suffered only a broken toe and a bit of glass in his hand but his wife was put into an induced coma with multiple fractures of her leg, as far as I can gather, a couple of broken bones in her neck and has half of her bowel removed. She is in a bad way. The car that hit them ended up catching fire and the driver was pronouced dead at the scene.
 Now...I am feeling absolutly no loss for that person. In fact I am thinking maybe it may possibly a good thing that he is off the road perminantly so he doesn't actualy kill someone. I realise this sounds harsh but this fella was 29 yrs old with maybe 10 years driving experience. This, in my opinion, was more than just a bad decision. This was a flagrent disregard for anyone else. 140 in a 60 zone? Seriously?
 As we all know this sort of thing doesn't just affect the victoms, but also the families of them. I feel for the 29 yr olds family. But not for him.
My friends have two young children, luckily not in the car at the time. They will now struggle to understand what is happening to mum. They will not completely understand the stresses of their mums recovery and struggle to maintain the daily chores and duties of running their home as she recovers from her injuries. They will not understand the depression in their dad as he struggles to realise that he was not actualy responsible for the accident and there was really nothing else he could do. It was not his fault.
So tell me oh wise ones....am I heartless in saying good ridence?

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2016, 06:37:37 PM »
Don't  feel  bad ...  it's  called  Darwinism...    ;D

... but very sorry to read what has happened to the lady, hope she will recover ok...?
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2016, 06:42:25 PM »
Not at all mate. But the death of that 29 year old would presumably adversely affected his family. Who knows,he could have had a young family too and been going through his own depression.

Good luck supporting your mates through this period in their lives they didn't deserve.

 

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2016, 06:42:46 PM »
NO, you are a realist, Your sympathy obviously is with everyone except the one who collected the DARWIN AWARD.
The 29yr. old has passed from gaining sympathy to needing forgiveness, still "you reap what you sow".
And your sympathy is well placed too, in my view. 
It's extremely difficult to allocate any sympathy for the 29 yr. old in the described incident.
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2016, 06:47:19 PM »
Fk no.

Fk him, he deserves everything he got.

I read somewhere, it may have been here somewhere, some one spent their life savings and years rebuilding a GT Falcon.

Two young teenagers took it upon themselves to steal it, they crashed it and they both died.

The owner of the vehicle went to their funeral and laughed.....

Normally the guilty walks away and the innocent mum or dad dies.

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 07:05:16 PM »
You may be a bugger, but that's for another time!!!

As far as being heartless, I would suggest not.
Dealing with grief is different for everyone and a justification of "good riddance" may be a way of finding resolve for the pain suffered by your friend.

I agree with your sentiment of the family. Its not their fault and they will now suffer a great loss and tragedy.
The fact that you are empathetic towards them indicates "heart" to me.

Hope your friend has a speedy recovery and wish you and them well.
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2016, 07:20:17 PM »
Nah you're right.  He deserves nothing and got what he deserved.  You have the right feelings for the right people. 
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2016, 07:28:58 PM »
Hi,
Way over the limit you have no friends!
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2016, 07:44:23 PM »
any idea of his driving record was he a serial offender who had been let off lightly before by the courts

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2016, 08:17:19 PM »
Thanks everyone for you input. Pretty well sick of these knuckle heads thinking 'it wont happen to me because I konw what I'm doing'.

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 08:29:08 PM »
Now...I am feeling absolutly no loss for that person. In fact I am thinking maybe it may possibly a good thing that he is off the road perminantly so he doesn't actualy kill someone. I realise this sounds harsh but this fella was 29 yrs old with maybe 10 years driving experience. This, in my opinion, was more than just a bad decision. This was a flagrent disregard for anyone else. 140 in a 60 zone? Seriously?
 As we all know this sort of thing doesn't just affect the victoms, but also the families of them. I feel for the 29 yr olds family. But not for him.

140 in a 60? I have no time or sympathy for anyone who would behave like that either. And he's destroyed more than one life: your friend's; her families; his family and friends.
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 08:42:58 PM »
This is a traggic incident and i can only hope she pulls through to make a full recovery. This should never happen.

Two good things, the deceased is not capable of causing the community more harm, and the kids were not in the car.

He wont be missed by many.

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 10:02:19 PM »
1. If he was high and made a conscious choice to drive like a knob and endanger everyone, yes he got what was coming.

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2. He could've been in the worst position he's ever been mentally, which means any sense of reality no longer exists. It's a selfish thought, but it's the only thought for that person at the time.

Two families and two lots of friends, as in your case, are affected by either scenario. I wish the best for your friends.

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2016, 12:53:09 AM »
Everyone makes mistakes. There could be a million reasons why he made his.
It has effected the lives of many people but death is a very permanent outcome.
I am very sorry for everyone that has been effected but may he rest in peace.
Only you can judge yourself as to your feelings for him.
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2016, 08:47:48 AM »
"am I heartless in saying good ridence?"

Definitely not.....in fact, whether they know it or not, he's also done HIS family a favour!
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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2016, 09:18:09 AM »
As long as the dead guy had no medical problem causing a blackout, I have no sympathy for him either.
The world would be a safer place without the likes of people who have no regard for any one else, just wrapped up in their own pleasures.

Heartless bugger???.......I think not.

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2016, 10:16:13 AM »
put in the same situation, I and everyone else would say the same thing
might be a coping mechanism

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2016, 01:16:41 PM »
Unless it was something medical, then I call it Karma. ;)

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Re: Am I a heartless bugger?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2016, 01:18:22 PM »
Everyone makes mistakes. There could be a million reasons why he made his.
It has effected the lives of many people but death is a very permanent outcome.
I am very sorry for everyone that has been effected but may he rest in peace.
Only you can judge yourself as to your feelings for him.

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