Imported Campers

[Bird]

[Skinnee]

It's only defamation if it's a false statement , no reason why people can't comment on issues they have had but as the forum owner is responsible for this site the onus is on the owner to prove the statement by a member is true.  Easier for the forum owner to remove the statements. Any company taking action though needs to grow a pair.

[Bill]

I would have thought constructive criticism would be welcomed by a manufacturer of anything.
That way things can be manufactured differently with improvements made and thereby a better product would be the result. Then people sing praises of the product instead of slinging $hit.
Instead of threatining lawsuits or flaming people would it not be easier just to fix what is broken (or going to break) and be done with it?
Bill

[Bird]

[green troll]

It's like bookface company's only showing approved comments. This puts doubt in the mind of the potential buyer. If I see a negative comment I still might be happy with the product with the knowledge that I can rectify the issue or live with it.

[BigJules]

It is an unfortunate reality that negative comment on a particular brand has been limited by bully boy tactics. The reason this has been successful is that whilst we are sure that any action could be defended the owners and administrators of this forum do not have the time or money to actually go and defend an action. Therefore we continue to ask that no members put us in a difficult position on this matter.


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[Bird]

[Skinnee]

It is an unfortunate reality that negative comment on a particular brand has been limited by bully boy tactics. The reason this has been successful is that whilst we are sure that any action could be defended the owners and administrators of this forum do not have the time or money to actually go and defend an action. Therefore we continue to ask that no members put us in a difficult position on this matter.


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Well said

[scrapsD40]

My great great grandfather was an imported camper in Tasmania. Very few houses with roofs in those days.  Very cold nights with big fires. Think that's where I learned to build them. Australia may not be the great country it is today without imports.

[Bird]

Think that's where I learned my trade

[Paddler Ed]

I noticed much the same after wandering around the same show.

The two campers that impressed me the most were the Mission and the Camel Campers - both sensible money for off road campers, and sensible weights (with sensible dimensions)

With some of the other brands, do you really need a tent village that is about the same size as the US Pentagon building?

I do think that some good ideas are trickling through from the Chinese campers - the small walk through at the end of the bed on the Camel was a particularly nice touch (less disturbance of SWMBO/less disturbance from SWMBO) and I think that has been influenced as a way of differentiating themselves from the cheaper campers. In that respect, there is a benefit to them being on the market.

[scrapsD40]

More like this
Plus without imported chinese products we mightn't know the delight of sweet and sour pork

[BigJules]

Let's not get carried away. Not all imports are welcome. Rats, foxes, plague, Budweiser...


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[scrapsD40]

Carp, sheep.....and my great great grandfather. None of whom made the decision to come willingly

[Bird]

My MTR's bag out well at 8psi

[McGirr]

I am pretty sure The original McGirr ,  who was a decendant of "Ben Dover and Phil McKraken" was imported into Australia from Ireland.

Mark

[monbeg]

I am pretty sure The original McGirr ,  who was a decendant of "Ben Dover and Phil McKraken" was imported into Australia from Ireland.

Mark

Their sister Eileen Dover was a little goer though.
She did get very upset when her dog, Run Dover, had a slight misfortune with the tractor.

[scrapsD40]

I would have thought constructive criticism would be welcomed by a manufacturer of anything.
That way things can be manufactured differently with improvements made and thereby a better product would be the result. Then people sing praises of the product instead of slinging $hit.
Instead of threatining lawsuits or flaming people would it not be easier just to fix what is broken (or going to break) and be done with it?
Bill

Agree and have seen many good Brands act this.

On a side note, I could suggest that Chrysler Australia are on a different page............

[KingBilly]

I do think that some good ideas are trickling through from the Chinese campers

No wish to enter the debate about imports verses local content but I would like to clarify something which you commented upon. Just to be clear, no Chinese camper manufacturer is designing any campers, they are just copying Aussie designs or manufacturing an Aussie design for an Aussie company.

The idea of a walkthrough, or walk up, side fold, soft floor camper is an Aussie design.  There are several Aussie manufacturers making this type of camper.

KB

[ScottT]

I do think that some good ideas are trickling through from the Chinese campers - the small walk through at the end of the bed on the Camel was a particularly nice touch (less disturbance of SWMBO/less disturbance from SWMBO) and I think that has been influenced as a way of differentiating themselves from the cheaper campers. In that respect, there is a benefit to them being on the market.

I thought Camel was Australian ?

http://www.camelcampertrailers.com.au/

[BigJules]

Camel are Australian, but didn't come up with that design.

There are ZERO good ideas being generated by the imports, they simply copy the R&D of local companies.


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[KingBilly]

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[Julian Kaye]

 It's a funny world, yesterday I had a few spare minutes so I thought I'd make a few innocuous comments about imported campers I had looked over at the Maitland Show. Then the responses started, it had been done to death, GIC and legal action, freedom of speech. There were more tangents than a geometry book.
  For all those who ran off half cocked, I was not having a go at GIC, I didn't mention that brand name and in fact was not even referring to them in my comments. I was not being over critical of imported campers, merely making the point that the one in particular that I looked at still had basic design and build issues.
 At the end of the day I thought my observations may have been of interest, maybe next time I'll just keep my thoughts to myself.

[ScottT]

Camel are Australian, but didn't come up with that design.

There are ZERO good ideas being generated by the imports, they simply copy the R&D of local companies.


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yeah, I know, I was just re-enforcing KB's point, I'm not sure the OP realised

[UIZ733]

I am pretty sure The original McGirr ,  who was a decendant of "Ben Dover and Phil McKraken" was imported into Australia from Ireland.

Mark

No Phil was a Scot. 😁