small detail sanders

[paceman]

hi all,

looking to get started on sanding back (just to rough it up, not right back to bare timber) and oiling my timber outdoor furniture and i was looking to purchase a small detail sander for the job, mainly because of the small crevices to get into...

at first, i was looking at something like this (Bosch PSM160A - $100):



but then, i saw something like this (Bosch GOP 250 CE - $170):




just wondering if anyone has any thoughts/experience on sanding (in particular) with the multi-tool type of details sander?

i think it might be a worthwhile purchase, because of its extra functionality, but if it doesn't do a good enough job sanding, then it defeats the purpose of getting one...

thoughts and advice appreciated.  not really interested in going up to the fein level of multi-tools, even though they appear to be a good unit.

[noel_w]

Hi
I have a Bosch detail sander similar to the one below. Mine is an older model (much older). The good thing about it is you can change the type of head to suit.
You could probably do the same with the multi tools too. I have a multi tool (Ryobi 18+) but haven't used it for a sander as I have the Bosch.
The bosch is a ripper. Have used it heaps, is great for doors, getting into corners etc.

[tracker]

hi all,

looking to get started on sanding back (just to rough it up, not right back to bare timber) and oiling my timber outdoor furniture and i was looking to purchase a small detail sander for the job, mainly because of the small crevices to get into...

at first, i was looking at something like this (Bosch PSM160A - $100):



but then, i saw something like this (Bosch GOP 250 CE - $170):




just wondering if anyone has any thoughts/experience on sanding (in particular) with the multi-tool type of details sander?

i think it might be a worthwhile purchase, because of its extra functionality, but if it doesn't do a good enough job sanding, then it defeats the purpose of getting one...

thoughts and advice appreciated.  not really interested in going up to the fein level of multi-tools, even though they appear to be a good unit.

  Perhaps a Dremel mate.....not sure on how to spell it

[paceman]

  Perhaps a Dremel mate.....not sure on how to spell it

i've got a dremel, but i don't think it will be big enough...

[glenm64]

Multi tool style is good for getting into small spots but not much good for bigger flat surfaces.
The palm sander is probably a better purchase for a sander if you havent got one yet.

Cheers Glen

[slydar]

learned one thing the hard way - when buying decking timber, make sure you get one wide enough that you can use yr sander on (there aren't many 65mm wide sanders...) - AND make sure you oil yr timber regularly, none of this (i'll do it next week/month (a bit hard here in Canberra when its too cold to apply oil over winter but the sun still shines on the deck...)

[#jonesy]

Don't bother sanding

Get a bucket of hot water and dissolve a cup of home brand nappy/laundry soaker (unscented)

Use this and a stiff scribing brush to scrub the timber. Give it 10-15 minutes and scrub again. Then pressure wash it off. This will get rid of the dirt, grime, old oil etc. you will be supposed how well it comes up. I use this on all my timber decks. Works the same as the expensive deck cleaning detergents for a fraction of the price.

[paceman]

Don't bother sanding

Get a bucket of hot water and dissolve a cup of home brand nappy/laundry soaker (unscented)

Use this and a stiff scribing brush to scrub the timber. Give it 10-15 minutes and scrub again. Then pressure wash it off. This will get rid of the dirt, grime, old oil etc. you will be supposed how well it comes up. I use this on all my timber decks. Works the same as the expensive deck cleaning detergents for a fraction of the price.

interesting...

i was going to hit it with the sander, then wash with wattyl decking cleaner:

http://www.wattyl.com.au/en/find-the-right-product/wood-care/Exterior/Decking/WattylWeathergardDeckingCleaner.html


then give it a few liberal coats with their furniture oil:

http://www.wattyl.com.au/en/find-the-right-product/wood-care/Exterior/OutdoorFurniture/WattylWeathergardFurnitureOil.html


the nappy soaker would be cheaper than the decking cleaner...

have you used a particular brand of decking oil?

[#jonesy]

I use the Cabots decking oil (turps cleanup). Natural colour.
It doesn't leave a coat on top of the timber but soaks in.

I did use the Merbau colour for a while but found that the small amount of tint builds up over time and leaves it a dirty brown colour.

I find the water based ones leave a layer a bit like varnish which starts to flake and peel if left too long.

The nappy trick will cost a $ or 2. The deckclean will be close to $10-20

[alnjan]

Son in law was doing some sanding and he went through the orbital sander the dremel type sanders I ended up buying him this and worked a treat 

https://www.masters.com.au/product/101744084/bosch-home-garden-prr250-sanding-roller

[paceman]

Son in law was doing some sanding and he went through the orbital sander the dremel type sanders I ended up buying him this and worked a treat 

https://www.masters.com.au/product/101744084/bosch-home-garden-prr250-sanding-roller

looks interesting... as long as it had a small diameter sander (less than an inch) for in between the slats on the chairs, it would work a treat...

[alnjan]

there are a large range of different attachments you can get for it, if you can find them

[GGV8Cruza]

I have one of the Drexel multi tools which is cordless and it works well when sanding. I would be looking at a powered unit though for the amount of sanding you will need to do.

I have oiled a lot of decks in my days and at home I only use http://www.intergrain.com.au/consumer/products/exterior/product-details/2737

I also put it on the furniture and it lasts the longest, may be a bit more expensive but worth it in the end

GG

[noel_w]

https://youtu.be/_9858ev8E94
Should give you some ideas 

[kylarama]

I've got the Fein multi tool with the detail sanding head and also a 125mm disc sanding head.
Works great on small fiddly stuff, but is slow on large stuff.

I'd go with a proper 240v 125mm random orbital  sander and do the small detail stuff by hand. Or by a multi tool too...
Even better, if you have a decent size air compressor. Get a 125mm air sander.

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[speewa158]

l like the look of that , might have to snag 1 of those today . NEW TOYS 
Then it off to the shed to play 

[speewa158]

Just looked up the sanding wheels prices    Gezzzzzz might not get NEW TOYS Today after all .
  They know how to charge for this stuff 

[slydar]

Don't bother sanding

Get a bucket of hot water and dissolve a cup of home brand nappy/laundry soaker (unscented)

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this is ok if you haven't been slack and/or constrained by cold Canberra weather that youre not supposed to oil timber in and the stuff goes grey because the weather can still get to it :-(

[#jonesy]

this is ok if you haven't been slack and/or constrained by cold Canberra weather that youre not supposed to oil timber in and the stuff goes grey because the weather can still get to it :-(

I'd still give it a go. If it doesn't work your $5 out of pocket and a bit of time. As apposed to having to buy more tools.

Either way winter isn't a good time to oil the deck. I like to do it in spring, preferring. To clean after a rainy period. The dirt is already softened before the clean and to oil on the sunny days. Ideally once in a year, in reality every second or third year

[Fizzie]

oil on the sunny days. Ideally once in a year, in reality every second or third year

Only one sunny day every 2 or 3 years 

I knew it was usually miserably dull & gloomy down there but didn't realise it was quite that bad!   

[paceman]

so, it looks like my careful preperation is for naught... 

after washing the chairs with laundry soaker (1 cup to 9L of warm water, scrub with a stiff brush) and then hitting it with the pressure washer, the chairs were as clean as they were going to get...

that part worked a treat...

applied a coat of organoil (after letting them dry for 48 hours) and this is what i get in random places on all of the chairs i have done so far:




tried a light sand (240 grit) and then applied another coat, but no luck... still comes through...

i am not sure what it is, or what is causing it, but i assume that i am going to have to sand these chairs back after all...