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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2016, 05:02:57 PM »
I have a nine foot customline and last week I did the full setup including kids stretcher, chairs, awning the whole bit in under 45 minutes from check in on my own and I wasn't even trying.The key is to do a bit of process improvement each time you setup to work out what's slowing you down and how you can correct it.  There are lots of little things that can be done differently that add up to a lot of time saved if you work on it.
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2016, 05:16:55 PM »
I work on allowance of 24 minutes per 24 hrs. as you can never suggest that someone who stays 1 night is comparable to 7 nights in terms of gear and comfort.

So i found out the 24 for 24 method is about right for us. I am always in front of that but if you cant give 24 mins out of the day towards set up then stay home I say.

Its taken me 8.2 years of living in our house to level out the 24 min per day rule when factoring the man hours that went into build.

I would much rather spend 24 min per day out there than in here.

Grab a beer relax and think of it as part of the freedom not the chore that some people turn it in to. I have been known to take 6 beers just to unhook the camper  ;D ;D

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2016, 06:52:20 PM »
with my Viper- from unhitch, swing out the foxwing off the trailer, pull the tent over with tent bows then throw in two pillows i look at under ten minutes.

My last trailer- a FF hard floor, with annex took a good 40 minutes.
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2016, 08:27:56 PM »
15 mins for the ulti. 2 awnings, bed made. In 25 mins fire going and sitting down relaxing.

Grab a beer relax and think of it as part of the freedom not the chore that some people turn it in to. I have been known to take 6 beers just to unhook the camper  ;D ;D

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2016, 08:59:46 PM »
15 mins for the ulti. 2 awnings, bed made. In 25 mins fire going and sitting down relaxing.
It's all about placement.
Your exaggerating a bit Scottie, some of those logs you cut up take at least ten  minutes each to drag and roll onto the fire

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2016, 09:50:06 PM »
We recently (just after easter) had the tent on our camper replaced by the manufacturer. Our first chance to get it out and up was this past weekend.

Our setup time compared to normal was ridiculous, just goes to show how speed and ease corresponds to familiarity!

All the things not relating to the tent took the normal amount of time. The main tent took alot longer than usual, but that was more because we would do a small part and then inspect parts of the tent, talk about it, adjust it, talk about it more ect.

The annex..... well! We thought that the annex would be similar to the old one, but it was a bit different. The manufacturer left all the old poles in and added some new ones, not all the old poles needed to be used and we didnt know which ones, unfortunately they didnt think to put in instructions or include all the extra poles needed - lucky for us we had extra spare poles that we had previously bought (not for use on the annex) that we could substitute.

 So instead of setup taking 35-45mins, it took 1.5+ hours.

We do not like the new annex setup and will be modifying it so it takes less poles, less time and less eye to eye poles.

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2016, 11:04:48 PM »
How did you set up the outdoor lights? Would love more info on this mod!

For ease of explaining I will call the annex poles pole 1, pole 2, pole 3, pole 4. Pole 1 are the edge poles over the kitchen area, pole 2 next one along (next to the window), pole 3 the next one (over the door area) and pole 4 the outer end poles.

We have have 2 solid 12v LED light strips for our outdoor area which we attach using magnets (they give out great light for 40cm strips - thanks to Mr Twine for supplying such great lights!), We place one on the spreader bar between pole 1 and pole 2 for the kitchen area (this one is operated by a light switch hanging down the second pole so I can switch it on and off from outside) and the second one is located on the spreader bar between pole 3 and pole 4 (this one is operated using a switch inside, I could have made an exterior switch or remote but didnt feel the need.)

Our interior lights (helps explain the exterior setup) we have one light permantly setup on the second bow and one on the 3rd bow with all the wiring coming down to the side of the bows where we have light switches setup. The wiring then continues down the bows to a weatherproof light box situated under the rear left hand side of the camper.

Our old annex setup (you may have read in the above post that we recently had our old tent replaced with a new one) the roof poles 1,2 & 3 that joined the legs to the main tent went through holes in the main tent canvas and hooked into the main tent bows (doing away with the need to build a frame and have legs against the main tent.) Our exterior lights have attached leads (and the one for the kitchen also has attached light switch) with a spade connectors on the end. The tent bows on the interior that have the wiring have spade connectors situated next to the hole in the canvas. We simply stick the lights to the spreader bars (using the magnets), take the leads to the canvas holes and then pull the interior spade connectors through the holes and clip the connections together - done, outdoor lights.

The new tent and annex does not setup this way, though we will be modifying the tent/annex so it goes back to the old setup. The new setup takes longer, uses more poles and uses alot more eye to eye poles and one (shudder) triple pole.
We have only been out in the new tent once so the solution we came up with would change from what we did, but it was enough to get us happily through the weekend and we wont change it because we have already made the decision to change the annex setup.

For the light between pole 1 and 2, we took the lead down pole 2 (next to the tent) and fed it through the side area between the tent and the trailer, through the interior zip, up the 2nd interior bow and upto the spade connector.
For the light between pole 3 and 4, we took the lead across pole 3 and fed it through the door, over to the 3rd interior bow and attached it to the spade connector. Unfortunately this meant we couldn't zip down the left side of the canvas door (though no problem with the other side or the fly screen part of the door.)

It would be much easier to show you photos rather than explain, but I dont have any. I hope this all makes sense, my head is a little fuzzy tonight and I cant seem to concentrate :)
I would to take photos next time we are out, but netball season starts next week so our weekends are spoken for till the end of August. Though I might manage to get it up one Sunday so we can do the annex mods!

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2016, 08:43:14 AM »
Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm setting up alone this Friday so I'll take some numbers down. It will likely take a while as an 18x24 tarp and then an 18x12 dome tent by myself isn't going to be fast. The rest of it is open a beer and do something, rinse, repeat :-) I have a couple of new setup tweaks I want to try out, so we'll see.

Below is a shot from a while ago. We have made improvements since then (ridge poles for one) btu you get the idea  ;D
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2016, 08:51:10 AM »
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... as an 18x24 tarp and then an 18x12 dome tent by myself
if I was told to do that I'd stay home.
Why the 18x24 tarp?? Why not just the tent and a 9x9 gazebo for shade.. **** loads easier and about 4 hours quicker.
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2016, 12:37:42 PM »
if I was told to do that I'd stay home.
Why the 18x24 tarp?? Why not just the tent and a 9x9 gazebo for shade.. **** loads easier and about 4 hours quicker.

a hell of a lot cheaper and lighter as you haven't got all those nasty poles also
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2016, 12:40:06 PM »
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a hell of a lot cheaper and lighter as you haven't got all those nasty poles also
yea.. all those 4 nasty poles
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2016, 01:36:48 PM »
Our set up for the season at Mt Barnett took about 6 hrs. Thats putting up the 81m2 tarp, to unpacking and building shelves, sorting out bags, containers etc. Not the norm but. ;D

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2016, 06:09:42 PM »
I reckon it takes more than 1.5 hours but less than 2.0 hours. This can vary depending on how many times Mrs Muz changes her mind on out camp spot  :D

Usually leave CT attached to tug but allow 10 mins if taken off.

Unload canoes (if taken) and solar panel from top of CT.  5 mins
Open up hardfloor and push up and tighten the three spreader bars.  5 mins

Unload, fridge, baggage, firewood, esky, 3 tables, two chairs, oz pig, toilet, shower and bucket then sett all these things up probably about 20 mins.

Put up annex roof (already attached) & tie down with ropes the 3 upright poles about 15 mins.

Slide out kitchen and attach gas 5 mins

Setup awning off the side of the Cruza and assemble the four wall (WC & shower room). 20 mins

Run electricals for lights, fridge, phones, shower, solar panel etc. about 25 mins
 That's about it. 1.5 hours plus a bit extra for a beer.

I do about 80% of the setup and the Mrs tries to help with the rest.  ;D



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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2016, 09:53:19 AM »
I bought a set of 20 screw-in tent pegs at Aldi a while back. I haven't used them camping as yet but I have tested in the backyard with good results. 

They have a 13mm nut on the end of each peg and the set comes with a 1/4inch 13mm socket. I use my AEG 200Nm impact driver and they are spun into the ground in seconds.

Hoping this will take some time, energy and noise out of my setup as hammering in pegs is a PITA, as is their removal.

I drilled some into my backyard and was not able to pull them out by hand and i would say my lawn at home isn't particularly hard.


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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2016, 10:19:35 AM »


I do about 80% of the setup and the Mrs tries to help with the rest.  ;D
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2016, 10:36:07 AM »
One thing I love about CTs is that the departure and return home is literally food and clothes. No packing the camping gear in and out of the car, just hitch and go. For us, this is a huge deal as the picking of the car and unpacking can take hours. Now everything stays in the CT and its unhitch and were home. So in terms of set up times, we talk about how much time this save sus
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2016, 10:40:53 AM »
I have a nine foot customline and last week I did the full setup including kids stretcher, chairs, awning the whole bit in under 45 minutes from check in on my own and I wasn't even trying.The key is to do a bit of process improvement each time you setup to work out what's slowing you down and how you can correct it.  There are lots of little things that can be done differently that add up to a lot of time saved if you work on it.
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2016, 11:17:46 AM »
We've recently gone from a soft floor to a forward fold hard floor because we got sick of the setup/packup times it takes with a soft floor.... theres littlerally no comparing setup times. The FF wouldn't take an 8th of the time to setup and pull down to our old camper which was a camel tent on my own custom trailer, with 2 second kitchen and all that stuff.

Recently went to Straddie for 12 days, we were in our new camper and our mate in his soft floor - in the past with our old soft floor he would finish packing up about 5-10 minutes quicker than my wife and i could. With our new FF camper we were finished a good 45 minutes quicker than my mate and we were not even breaking a sweat as it takes next to no effort to pack a FF away.

In the end we left camp no quicker than normal as we spent more time helping our mates pack up.

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2016, 08:00:11 PM »
Rear fold pioneer. 4 clips and flip then adjust one pole. Include unhitch and kitchen gas line about 5 minutes max.
Awning 6 poles ropes and pegs and a painful 15 minutes added. Don't bother for less than 4 nights or if it's raining.
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2016, 08:59:16 PM »
i have a adventure offroad camper and they are easier and less stressful than my last soft floor camper.
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #95 on: April 28, 2016, 10:20:36 AM »
i have a adventure offroad camper and they are easier and less stressful than my last soft floor camper.
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Gezz thats a complicated bit of kit - I got to 1:40 mark where he was still mucking about with loose brackets and bits'n'bobs and stopped watching as my head was starting to spin...  by that time our FF is open and and ready for bed.
Miraculously the trailer legs were set at the perfect height when they dropped down, he didn't bother leveling the bed on the bed extension frame legs either which takes time.. nor include the time parking, unhitching and pegging down the ground sheet before the clip started. Fairly typical sales pitch type clip there.

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #96 on: April 28, 2016, 04:39:28 PM »
I work on allowance of 24 minutes per 24 hrs. as you can never suggest that someone who stays 1 night is comparable to 7 nights in terms of gear and comfort.

So i found out the 24 for 24 method is about right for us. I am always in front of that but if you cant give 24 mins out of the day towards set up then stay home I say.

Its taken me 8.2 years of living in our house to level out the 24 min per day rule when factoring the man hours that went into build.

I would much rather spend 24 min per day out there than in here.

Grab a beer relax and think of it as part of the freedom not the chore that some people turn it in to. I have been known to take 6 beers just to unhook the camper  ;D ;D

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I too am guilty of having the same attitude as Jetcrew, if it takes me 6 beers or 12 I really don't care.  I used to worry about my set up times (and there is of course a few people here that can honestly say they have enjoyed a good laugh at my expense) but now as long as everyone is happy and laughing that's all the counts. Happy camping.     
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #97 on: April 28, 2016, 04:48:16 PM »
I too am guilty of having the same attitude as Jetcrew, if it takes me 6 beers or 12 I really don't care.  I used to worry about my set up times (and there is of course a few people here that can honestly say they have enjoyed a good laugh at my expense) but now as long as everyone is happy and laughing that's all the counts. Happy camping.   
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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #98 on: April 28, 2016, 04:51:15 PM »
I too am guilty of having the same attitude as Jetcrew, if it takes me 6 beers or 12 I really don't care.  I used to worry about my set up times (and there is of course a few people here that can honestly say they have enjoyed a good laugh at my expense) but now as long as everyone is happy and laughing that's all the counts. Happy camping.   

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Most of the time; (ie: not every time) - I actually enjoy the set up process with my AT-11...    Its the whole 'ritual' of it...  I get a bit of a buzz out of it; and don't really care too much how long I spend on it....    Its the order and the process; seeing it all 'come together'...     (Slightly like that meathead in the Colourbond advert on the telly) - where he and his family appear to be admiring everything he is creating out of corro...  omg!

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Re: Setup Times
« Reply #99 on: April 28, 2016, 08:06:18 PM »
Oh...I forgot to mention one more set up ritual....but may not necessarily be environmentally friendly  >:D
Sprinkle some ant sand/kill around the van & annex etc.....hate bull ants  >:(
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