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G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« on: January 20, 2016, 11:28:03 PM »
Hi everyone,

We've been lucky enough to be able to borrow a Desert Edge trailer from my parents but really need to look at getting our own CT.

A few things we know we need;

- slightly bigger tent space as we need to sleep 3 kids on single airbeds on the floor, as well as fitting gear inside the tent (or outside under awning if it has a lined floor)

- low key off road use, no heavy duty 4WD

- budget (unfortunately) is south of $10k

Has anyone got experience at buying from the Perth Caravan and Camping Show?  Do they have any genuine specials?

Any help and advice gratefully appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2016, 07:29:35 AM »
Gday Shotrat

There's a mirriad of things that you should know and there'll be plenty of Swaggers here that will give you some helpful advice. 

By far the most important thing with camper trailers is ease of use.  How easy it it to put it up AND to pack it away.  This is especially important if you do lots of quick trips involving overnight stops.  If it takes more than 10 minutes to erect, it will start to be a chore.  Same with packing up.  It shouldn't take more than 15 minutes. 

Before you commit your hard earned, get the seller to show you the whole process from start to finish.  If it looks complicated, it likely is.

I've got a few mates who sold their campers for this reason.


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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2016, 08:52:08 AM »
Have a look at all of the members CT's in the "MY CAMPER TRAILER" section. You will get so see a lot of pics of CT's setups including members personal mods used to improve them.

There a lot to look at that might help make up your mind.

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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 08:59:13 AM »
Just remember

TTB = Time to Beer
NP = Number of poles
NK = Number of kids

TTB= 15xNPxNK

Ergo, the more poles and kids you have to deal with, the longer it's going to take you to get to beer. This was a primary consideration when we bought our softfloor. 4 Pegs and two internal poles and two braces and it was up. Lots of others had complex pole systems, which after a long day will just do your head in, create a barney with your misses and give you the $hits
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2016, 08:59:20 AM »
Look in the trader section here.. theres some awesome bargains there... you can get a 15k trailer for <10k used and be very happy with it.
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2016, 09:03:12 AM »
Welcome.

I can tell you there is absolutely nothing worth buying at the Perth show for that kind of coin, but don't despair as there are plenty of great campers out there for you. I'll be at the show, feel free to stop in and say g'day.

What I say to lots of folks in the same position as you is "look east". The second hand market has lots more to offer at better prices than is available in WA, even when you factor in some freight.
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2016, 09:08:00 AM »
To have enough room you'll want a 12' tent , and there's VERY few of them that you'll set up in 10 minutes by yourself, 2 adults  will though .. then there's twice that time to set up the annexe.. THEN there's the table , chairs etc etc etc..  and we all seem to carry a bit too much "essential "stuff.....

 Whichever setup you go for , get a hands on demo first!!!!

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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 09:14:25 AM »
Peterr, as it seems likely the OP is going to be using caravan parks more than open bush camping, I'd advise against a 12' tent. Not because they're more difficult but they do challenge the site size in most parks these days.

Here is a time lapse of setting up a 10' tent by myself, actual time was  less than 4 minutes, add another 10 for annex, chairs, connect the water and gas.
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 09:57:14 AM »
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Peterr, as it seems likely the OP is going to be using caravan parks more than open bush camping, I'd advise against a 12' tent. Not because they're more difficult but they do challenge the site size in most parks these days
from personal experience, I agree. There is no standard size site for van parks.. some have enough room to park your car on as well... others you cant come close to fitting the 12ft tent on :(
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2016, 11:28:21 AM »
IMO for under 10k new you are probably going to be getting Chinese imports.  Mixed reviews on the those. For just a smidge more you can start getting the entry level Aussie built ones. I am sure everyone will tell you their thoughts on Chinese imports.

Look at your needs carefully. Just because you’ve got 3 kids doesn’t mean you ‘need’ acres of canvas so you could stick with a 10’ or 12’ tent. More canvas means more poles, means longer set up and set down times

We’ve got 3 kids under 10 and bought a second hand rear fold soft floor. Youngest sleeps on the floor and we’ve offloaded  the two older into an oztent or swags. Our set up is 20-40mins depending on how much the kids decide they suddenly need us to do super important things right there and then.  BUT that definitely won’t be everyone’s cup of tea because the amount of interior canvas space is minimal – but it suits us just fine.

Re the Chinese campers: Every one I’ve seen seems to be ok for tent set up, but relies on x100 poles to set up the awnings.  Friends of ours (first time CT owners on a budget) have 3 kids and just bought a Blackseries camper for $8k. You’ll get mixed reviews from other swaggers one them, but they’re very happy with their purchase.  We watched them set up for only the second time ever - The main tent is a 12 foot and it’s not too bad to set up, but the awning had eleventy million poles and spreader bars and it nearly caused a divorce. I’m sure with more practice that time will improve. But having numbered poles that have to go in specific positions would be too much work for me, and get old pretty quickly. It might not be an issue if you are the type of campers who go to one spot and stay there for a long time. We mostly tour, usually moving every one or two days, so easy set up and flexibility is required.

Other friends have a Leisure Matters bought from Sydney franchise. It was delivered missing some awning poles which the company couriered out to them. Again they’re very happy with it. The eastern state franchises have closed down but there’s still one in WA. They set up and pack in about the same time as we do. Again they are happy with the purchase.  On our last trip one of the bolts holding a brake caliper came out and we had to cable tie it. But that could happen to anyone really.

Now. if it was me… You’ll find lots of good second hand campers for that price usually with a few more bits a pieces bolted on by the owners. ( I missed out on an older Off Road Cub Off with nearly new tires and brand new canvas that was $8000, and a hardly used Camel Discovery for $5k. ) You’ll also find entry level campers that are being sold nearly new as the owners have decided it’s not for them. 

At the end of the day, if it works for you, go for it.

Another alternative is to get a trailer place to build you a standard box trailer and bolt an Oztrail Camper Trailer Tent on top
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2016, 12:41:34 AM »
Thanks for all of the great replies so far, much appreciated.

The more I research it, the more I am leaning towards a second hand Aussie made CT. I'll just have to be patient and keep watching those gumtree ads.

We'll still do the Perth Caravan and Camping show. Too many toys to miss out on if we don't go.

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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 12:11:06 PM »
Welcome to Myswag Shotrat.  Good luck with the hunt for a CT don't forget to post some pics when you find the one. 
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Re: G'day, looking for views on entry CT's
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 05:15:54 PM »
whether you buy new or second hand youre probably either going to be stuck with something you cant sell (there are so many on roundabouts especially this time of year - its not for everyone) or lose easily half of that you paid for it - its up to you - it sounds like you like the lifestyle so for my money you may as well get a good one up front.

we have one of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331732255844?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

and love it so much we just picked another second hand as our first one copped bit of damage in storms last summer due to not being fastened down properly (yeh we should have known better)

there are plenty of second hand 7x5 trailers on ebay to attach it to, we were lucky as ours came complete - on ebay at the moment is a complete setup with extra pole carrier tubes already mounted on the outside for about 5 big ones